Daily Micro-Tapering Support Group

[[bu...]]

Assume you have yardstick (remember those?)  Its 36 inches long, but you want it to be 24 inches long (maybe so it will fit in your toolbox?  )

 

Whether you cut if off  1 inch at a time for 12 days, or whether you cut 12 inches off today, in 12 days, your "yardstick" will still be 12 inches shorter, or 24 inches long.

 

Either way, you will have reduced its length by 12 inches.

 

:)

[[ga...]]

Assume you have yardstick (remember those?)  Its 36 inches long, but you want it to be 24 inches long (maybe so it will fit in your toolbox?  )

 

Whether you cut if off  1 inch at a time for 12 days, or whether you cut 12 inches off today, in 12 days, your "yardstick" will still be 12 inches shorter, or 24 inches long.

 

Either way, you will have reduced its length by 12 inches.

 

:)

 

Oh, I get the concept, I just don't do the math well. Decimal points go bouncing all over the place in my benzo brain. 

And then there was the night I put my bottle of a week's worth of 10% dilution on my nightstand instead of my bottle with my 3AM dose and almost drank the whole thing in the middle of the night! I cannot tell you how happy I will be when I have tapered away that midle-of-the-night dose and have one less bullet to dodge on my way out of benzoland!

Meanwhile, THANK HEAVENS FOR MATH AND DILUTION GURUS!!! I will be needing one again when I re-start my taper after this partial cross-over to L.

 

My brain will come back. My brain will come back. My brain will come back.

 

 

[[...]]

Assume you have yardstick (remember those?)  Its 36 inches long, but you want it to be 24 inches long (maybe so it will fit in your toolbox?  )

 

Whether you cut if off  1 inch at a time for 12 days, or whether you cut 12 inches off today, in 12 days, your "yardstick" will still be 12 inches shorter, or 24 inches long.

 

Either way, you will have reduced its length by 12 inches.

 

:)

 

 

Nice analogy

[[cs...]]

It is very conservative for a dose of 1mg K.  From what I can tell you are cutting about .00625mg K every seven days.  That's about .027mg a month, which is equivalent to about .5mg V a month.  That is the kind of rate commonly found at the very end of most tapers.  So yes it is a conservative start.  I think you could double it and still be "conservative."  In all liklihood you can probably cut somewhere above .075mg K per month.  But good job.  You are erroring on the right side of caution.

 

Your rate is .00625mg/7 days which is the same as .0009mg/day and you have a scale that can do this.  Personally, I would take advantage of this and make .0009mg daily cuts instead of running out seven days ahead and inviting symptoms.  But I understand the hesitancy to cut daily and it is a solid plan.  Why not split the difference and cut .0036mg every four days?

 

Hi SG -

 

Finally got my spreadsheet calculator done (it took time to learn how to put in the formulas on excel) , so ready to move forward. I think it's best to start super conservative as planned, then adjust from there, monitoring symptoms after a minimum of 4 days, doing the split you suggested.

 

Final issue: since each 0.5mg tablet weight varies as much as 3% (I weighed 10 tablets; avg: 203mg), but assuming the active ingredient remains the same, how should I calculate my cuts - base it on the average or do each one individually?

 

 

[[...]]

It is very conservative for a dose of 1mg K.  From what I can tell you are cutting about .00625mg K every seven days.  That's about .027mg a month, which is equivalent to about .5mg V a month.  That is the kind of rate commonly found at the very end of most tapers.  So yes it is a conservative start.  I think you could double it and still be "conservative."  In all liklihood you can probably cut somewhere above .075mg K per month.  But good job.  You are erroring on the right side of caution.

 

Your rate is .00625mg/7 days which is the same as .0009mg/day and you have a scale that can do this.  Personally, I would take advantage of this and make .0009mg daily cuts instead of running out seven days ahead and inviting symptoms.  But I understand the hesitancy to cut daily and it is a solid plan.  Why not split the difference and cut .0036mg every four days?

 

Hi SG -

 

Finally got my spreadsheet calculator done (it took time to learn how to put in the formulas on excel) , so ready to move forward. I think it's best to start super conservative as planned, then adjust from there, monitoring symptoms after a minimum of 4 days, doing the split you suggested.

 

Final issue: since each 0.5mg tablet weight varies as much as 3% (I weighed 10 tablets; avg: 203mg), but assuming the active ingredient remains the same, how should I calculate my cuts - base it on the average or do each one individually?

 

The way I look at it the active ingredient does not remain the same, i.e., if the pill weight changes the dose changes.  Really, I think once you have a good number for the pill it does not matter as you will be cutting based on symptoms.  So you have your number...

 

.5mg/203mg=.00246mg for each .001g on your scale.

 

I'd figure your dose based on this number and never bother with it again.

[[sh...]]

It is very conservative for a dose of 1mg K.  From what I can tell you are cutting about .00625mg K every seven days.  That's about .027mg a month, which is equivalent to about .5mg V a month.  That is the kind of rate commonly found at the very end of most tapers.  So yes it is a conservative start.  I think you could double it and still be "conservative."  In all liklihood you can probably cut somewhere above .075mg K per month.  But good job.  You are erroring on the right side of caution.

 

Your rate is .00625mg/7 days which is the same as .0009mg/day and you have a scale that can do this.  Personally, I would take advantage of this and make .0009mg daily cuts instead of running out seven days ahead and inviting symptoms.  But I understand the hesitancy to cut daily and it is a solid plan.  Why not split the difference and cut .0036mg every four days?

 

Hi SG -

 

Finally got my spreadsheet calculator done (it took time to learn how to put in the formulas on excel) , so ready to move forward. I think it's best to start super conservative as planned, then adjust from there, monitoring symptoms after a minimum of 4 days, doing the split you suggested.

 

Final issue: since each 0.5mg tablet weight varies as much as 3% (I weighed 10 tablets; avg: 203mg), but assuming the active ingredient remains the same, how should I calculate my cuts - base it on the average or do each one individually?

 

If it was me I would just cut the same amount from the pills regardless of the variation.  For example, if the pill weights 205mg and your cut that day is 1mg then take 204mg.  If the next day the pill weights 202mg still cut your planned cut of 2mg(Just an example - dont know your reduction amount) and take 202mg.  If you are consistent these variations shouldn't effect too much. 

 

Stay strong!

sharkey

[[cs...]]

It is very conservative for a dose of 1mg K.  From what I can tell you are cutting about .00625mg K every seven days.  That's about .027mg a month, which is equivalent to about .5mg V a month.  That is the kind of rate commonly found at the very end of most tapers.  So yes it is a conservative start.  I think you could double it and still be "conservative."  In all liklihood you can probably cut somewhere above .075mg K per month.  But good job.  You are erroring on the right side of caution.

 

Your rate is .00625mg/7 days which is the same as .0009mg/day and you have a scale that can do this.  Personally, I would take advantage of this and make .0009mg daily cuts instead of running out seven days ahead and inviting symptoms.  But I understand the hesitancy to cut daily and it is a solid plan.  Why not split the difference and cut .0036mg every four days?

 

Hi SG -

 

Finally got my spreadsheet calculator done (it took time to learn how to put in the formulas on excel) , so ready to move forward. I think it's best to start super conservative as planned, then adjust from there, monitoring symptoms after a minimum of 4 days, doing the split you suggested.

 

Final issue: since each 0.5mg tablet weight varies as much as 3% (I weighed 10 tablets; avg: 203mg), but assuming the active ingredient remains the same, how should I calculate my cuts - base it on the average or do each one individually?

 

The way I look at it the active ingredient does not remain the same, i.e., if the pill weight changes the dose changes.  Really, I think once you have a good number for the pill it does not matter as you will be cutting based on symptoms.  So you have your number...

 

.5mg/203mg=.00246mg for each .001g on your scale.

 

I'd figure your dose based on this number and never bother with it again.

 

Wow, if we assume the active ingredient varies, then managing such precise ultra microcuts seems almost to be a moot point, no? I guess the variations in the active med would be so miniscule, it's accepted as a general rule in pharmacy. One pharmacist told me that a 5% variance is acceptable. I found a paper to support this: http://medsask.usask.ca/documents/hot-topics/Generic_vs_brand.pdf

Basically, the variance comes to 3-4%. I just spoke with another pharmacist who said just because a tablet is scored does guarantee homogeneity. Others says it does. Should I then just go to pulverizing the tablet, mix, encapsulate, then weigh it (I did this with my previous taper w/ Lamictal)? 

 

Oh, and just to clarify, my scale is set to .0001g (it can go to .00001g, but the environmental conditions make it pointless).

[[...]]

The way I look at it the active ingredient does not remain the same, i.e., if the pill weight changes the dose changes.  Really, I think once you have a good number for the pill it does not matter as you will be cutting based on symptoms.  So you have your number...

 

.5mg/203mg=.00246mg for each .001g on your scale.

 

I'd figure your dose based on this number and never bother with it again.

 

Wow, if we assume the active ingredient varies, then managing such precise ultra microcuts seems almost to be a moot point, no? I guess the variations in the active med would be so miniscule, it's accepted as a general rule in pharmacy. One pharmacist told me that a 5% variance is acceptable. I found a paper to support this: http://medsask.usask.ca/documents/hot-topics/Generic_vs_brand.pdf

Basically, the variance comes to 3-4%. I just spoke with another pharmacist who said just because a tablet is scored does guarantee homogeneity. Others says it does. Should I then just go to pulverizing the tablet, mix, encapsulate, then weigh it (I did this with my previous taper w/ Lamictal)? 

 

Oh, and just to clarify, my scale is set to .0001g (it can go to .00001g, but the environmental conditions make it pointless).

 

I probably was not clear.  I assume the pill powder is uniformly mixed in a big batch and that the pills are pressed from that and there is no coating applied.  This could be wrong, but it is what I envision.  So the weight of a pill is tied directly to the dose.  If one pill weighs a few more mgs than the next I assume it has more K in it.

 

You work with what you have.  It will work out.  It's a world of tolerances when you think of it.  Nothing is exact.  You could pulverize and mix and make a supply of "klonodust"   That would be an improvement, but I doubt that is needed, especially at higher dose.  I think if you just file the pill it will be fine.

[[Ne...]]

Is Valium med distributed evenly enough to support .02 mg cuts with sufficient accuracy?  I'm using 2mg pills and am not metabolizing liquid for whatever reason. 

 

Can I successfully dry cut at this rate holding as needed?  I'm under 2mg now and this is getting very difficult and I need to make tiny cuts.

[[bu...]]

I absolutely agree with SG and sharkey...don't fret about minor variations from pill to pill.  And even if 2 pills weigh exactly the same, they may very well vary in the actual amount of active ingredient.  Work from the average weight, and go!

 

One more time, consistency is much more important than accuracy.  Day-to-day random variations will be self cancelling.

[[bi...]]

After taking a break with no real reduction of wd symptoms started micro titration 7/27 .2 solution from 1ml syringe of 1mg K total daily dose dissolved in 2ml vodka and 98ml water added, and today was day 4. Symptoms got worse today in the mid to late afternoon but rest of day manageable.  My question is had this been anyone else's experience?  Do we try to hold again to see if will  improve?  Does it get better as you reduce down?  I know everyone is different just trying to figure it out going forward.  He was a pretty big mess for several hours! Trying to read and catch up on older posts since 7/1.  Congrats to Sharkey on your jump!  You inspire us all. Trying to stay strong.

[[cs...]]

The way I look at it the active ingredient does not remain the same, i.e., if the pill weight changes the dose changes.  Really, I think once you have a good number for the pill it does not matter as you will be cutting based on symptoms.  So you have your number...

 

.5mg/203mg=.00246mg for each .001g on your scale.

 

I'd figure your dose based on this number and never bother with it again.

 

Wow, if we assume the active ingredient varies, then managing such precise ultra microcuts seems almost to be a moot point, no? I guess the variations in the active med would be so miniscule, it's accepted as a general rule in pharmacy. One pharmacist told me that a 5% variance is acceptable. I found a paper to support this: http://medsask.usask.ca/documents/hot-topics/Generic_vs_brand.pdf

Basically, the variance comes to 3-4%. I just spoke with another pharmacist who said just because a tablet is scored does guarantee homogeneity. Others says it does. Should I then just go to pulverizing the tablet, mix, encapsulate, then weigh it (I did this with my previous taper w/ Lamictal)? 

 

Oh, and just to clarify, my scale is set to .0001g (it can go to .00001g, but the environmental conditions make it pointless).

 

I probably was not clear.  I assume the pill powder is uniformly mixed in a big batch and that the pills are pressed from that and there is no coating applied.  This could be wrong, but it is what I envision.  So the weight of a pill is tied directly to the dose.  If one pill weighs a few more mgs than the next I assume it has more K in it.

 

You work with what you have.  It will work out.  It's a world of tolerances when you think of it.  Nothing is exact.  You could pulverize and mix and make a supply of "klonodust"   That would be an improvement, but I doubt that is needed, especially at higher dose.  I think if you just file the pill it will be fine.

 

 

I had already experimented and made some "Klonodust" encapsulated. Full 0.5mg tablet fits nicely: 

 

http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah213/nutrimedent/IMG_3302_zps2j0zr6z0.jpg

[[do...]]

Assume you have yardstick (remember those?)  Its 36 inches long, but you want it to be 24 inches long (maybe so it will fit in your toolbox?  )

 

Whether you cut if off  1 inch at a time for 12 days, or whether you cut 12 inches off today, in 12 days, your "yardstick" will still be 12 inches shorter, or 24 inches long.

 

Either way, you will have reduced its length by 12 inches.

 

:)

 

Oh, I get the concept, I just don't do the math well. Decimal points go bouncing all over the place in my benzo brain. 

And then there was the night I put my bottle of a week's worth of 10% dilution on my nightstand instead of my bottle with my 3AM dose and almost drank the whole thing in the middle of the night! I cannot tell you how happy I will be when I have tapered away that midle-of-the-night dose and have one less bullet to dodge on my way out of benzoland!

Meanwhile, THANK HEAVENS FOR MATH AND DILUTION GURUS!!! I will be needing one again when I re-start my taper after this partial cross-over to L.

 

My brain will come back. My brain will come back. My brain will come back.

 

Hello Gardener,

 

I hear you loud and clear.  I read some of the posts and they will mention that they cut by .0025 mg per day.  I think to myself what does that mean because I was tapering by .5 ml per day.  I guess I don't know how to convert ml to mg.

 

Yes, thank goodness for the math and dilution gurus.  You are all the best!

 

With gratitude,

doodle dog

[[...]]

Is Valium med distributed evenly enough to support .02 mg cuts with sufficient accuracy?  I'm using 2mg pills and am not metabolizing liquid for whatever reason. 

 

Can I successfully dry cut at this rate holding as needed?  I'm under 2mg now and this is getting very difficult and I need to make tiny cuts.

 

2mg V is one of the better pills to cut with the scale.  For example, if a 2mg pill weighs .170g a .001g scale could cut as small as .012mg.  That's about low enough to make daily cuts to zero.

[[bu...]]

 

Hello Gardener,

 

I hear you loud and clear.  I read some of the posts and they will mention that they cut by .0025 mg per day.  I think to myself what does that mean because I was tapering by .5 ml per day. I guess I don't know how to convert ml to mg.

Yes, thank goodness for the math and dilution gurus.  You are all the best!

 

With gratitude,

doodle dog

 

 

Its just the relationship between how many mgs you mix with how much liquid.  Rx Diazepam Oral Solution comes from the mfgr, with 1mg of V in each ml of liquid, so the conversion is 1mg=1ml.  If you then dilute 1ml with 9ml water, now you have 1mg in 10ml, 0r 1mg=10ml  Or if you dissolve 1mg of diazepam tablet in 2mg of alcohol and add 98 ml water, now you have 1mg in 100mls or 1mg=100ml.    The conversion is whatever ratio of med to liquid you have chosen.

 

I'm not trying to embarass folks by trying to show that it's pretty simple, but I think it would make you  feel a whole lot more at ease if I could really understand it, rather than just some anonymous poster on a message board giving you your taper instructions.

 

JMHO

[Guest [Ma...]]

Friends,

I have posted on the titration board as well.

Thought I would pick the smart minds here too.

 

I cannot continue MT X. Simply too symptomatic.

I would like help on planning a cross to V.

I will need to triangulate the dosage for I'm a fast metabolizer for the CYP2C19 pathway.

Here is my current dosing schedule.

6:30 am - .105 X

9:30 am - 2 mg V

10:30 am - .105 X

1:30 pm - .105 X

4:30 pm - .105 X

7:30 pm - .105 X

10:00 pm - 2 mg V

11:30 pm - .105 X

 

What I wish to do is cross over, stabilize and then MT. I will need to dry MT in that my Pdoc is not on board with a liquid MT.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

Marija

[[do...]]

 

Hello Gardener,

 

I hear you loud and clear.  I read some of the posts and they will mention that they cut by .0025 mg per day.  I think to myself what does that mean because I was tapering by .5 ml per day. I guess I don't know how to convert ml to mg.

Yes, thank goodness for the math and dilution gurus.  You are all the best!

 

With gratitude,

doodle dog

 

 

Its just the relationship between how many mgs you mix with how much liquid.  Rx Diazepam Oral Solution comes from the mfgr, with 1mg of V in each ml of liquid, so the conversion is 1mg=1ml.  If you then dilute 1ml with 9ml water, now you have 1mg in 10ml, 0r 1mg=10ml  Or if you dissolve 1mg of diazepam tablet in 2mg of alcohol and add 98 ml water, now you have 1mg in 100mls or 1mg=100ml.    The conversion is whatever ratio of med to liquid you have chosen.

 

I'm not trying to embarass folks by trying to show that it's pretty simple, but I think it would make you  feel a whole lot more at ease if I could really understand it, rather than just some anonymous poster on a message board giving you your taper instructions.

 

JMHO

 

Aha Builder, now I understand.  Thanks for the great explanation.

 

With gratitude,

doodle dog

[[bu...]]

 

Hello Gardener,

 

I hear you loud and clear.  I read some of the posts and they will mention that they cut by .0025 mg per day.  I think to myself what does that mean because I was tapering by .5 ml per day. I guess I don't know how to convert ml to mg.

Yes, thank goodness for the math and dilution gurus.  You are all the best!

 

With gratitude,

doodle dog

 

 

Its just the relationship between how many mgs you mix with how much liquid.  Rx Diazepam Oral Solution comes from the mfgr, with 1mg of V in each ml of liquid, so the conversion is 1mg=1ml.  If you then dilute 1ml with 9ml water, now you have 1mg in 10ml, 0r 1mg=10ml  Or if you dissolve 1mg of diazepam tablet in 2mg of alcohol and add 98 ml water, now you have 1mg in 100mls or 1mg=100ml.    The conversion is whatever ratio of med to liquid you have chosen.

 

I'm not trying to embarass folks by trying to show that it's pretty simple, but I think it would make you  feel a whole lot more at ease if I could really understand it, rather than just some anonymous poster on a message board giving you your taper instructions.

 

JMHO

 

Aha Builder, now I understand.  Thanks for the great explanation.

 

With gratitude,

doodle dog

 

 

I really am glad that my explanation cleared it up.  You can't really feel completely "in charge"  of your taper if you don't really understand how it all fits together.

 

;D

[[Ne...]]

Is Valium med distributed evenly enough to support .02 mg cuts with sufficient accuracy?  I'm using 2mg pills and am not metabolizing liquid for whatever reason. 

 

Can I successfully dry cut at this rate holding as needed?  I'm under 2mg now and this is getting very difficult and I need to make tiny cuts.

 

2mg V is one of the better pills to cut with the scale.  For example, if a 2mg pill weighs .170g a .001g scale could cut as small as .012mg.  That's about low enough to make daily cuts to zero.

 

Ok thanks.  I'm using the popular Gemini 20.  I'm using a blade to make tiny cuts...is that OK?  Using a file was hard because it was too easy to file too much. 

[[Ul...]]

Has anybody heard anything from Jeff (Ultra) recently?

 

Yeh, I heard he's still beating up that psychiatrist at the medical school that told him he was a loser and that he could get off 3mg of K in less than 2 months if he was worth anything    Maybe that dude had Ultra confused with NYCWaveRider (or whoever). Still can't believe that person drop 5mg of K in two MONTHS!!

 

Ha ha!  Thanks for checking, Garner.  I was away from the computer for two days taking care of my wife. New complications from her cancer ride. I was on the phone with docs and insurance companies as well as getting her to appointments, etc.

 

Gotta geaux.

 

As always, hugs!

 

Jeff

 

Hi Jeff,

 

Sending good thoughts to you and your wife. 

 

Hugs,

doodle dog

 

Hugs back to YOU, Doodle!!!

 

Jeff

[[Ul...]]

Has anybody heard anything from Jeff (Ultra) recently?

 

Yeh, I heard he's still beating up that psychiatrist egotistical, clueless, incompetent, willfully-ignorant narcissist at the medical school that told him he was a loser and that he could get off 3mg of K in less than 2 months if he was worth anything    Maybe that dude had Ultra confused with NYCWaveRider (or whoever). Still can't believe that person drop 5mg of K in two MONTHS!!

 

Ha ha!  Thanks for checking, Garner.  I was away from the computer for two days taking care of my wife. New complications from her cancer ride. I was on the phone with docs and insurance companies as well as getting her to appointments, etc.

 

Gotta geaux.

 

As always, hugs!

 

Jeff

 

Fixed your post for ya, Ultra. 

 

Hugs to you and your wife!

 

Ha!! I LOVE it!!! Thanks for the correction, teach.

 

Hey, guess what?  I got an appointment today with a psychiatrist who IS in my network. I can't see him until September 16th, which about 4 days before I run out of clonazepam, but that's better than none! Long story, but his assistant has been with him for 20 of the 30 yrs of the psychiatrist' career. She was actually nice! She said she thinks he'll write me the script. I hoping he's "old school" and will be lenient in his benzo writing. It's an hour and 45 minutes away. We'll see. Four days before I run out!! Pretty amazing. I'm hoping nothing keeps the appointment from happening. I'm not gonna say a word about tapering. I need this stuff for years since it'll take me that long to whip this stuff.

 

Crossing fingers!!

 

Thanks to everyone for continued support.

 

Geaux Tigers!

 

Jeff

[Guest [Ma...]]

Has anybody heard anything from Jeff (Ultra) recently?

 

Yeh, I heard he's still beating up that psychiatrist egotistical, clueless, incompetent, willfully-ignorant narcissist at the medical school that told him he was a loser and that he could get off 3mg of K in less than 2 months if he was worth anything    Maybe that dude had Ultra confused with NYCWaveRider (or whoever). Still can't believe that person drop 5mg of K in two MONTHS!!

 

Ha ha!  Thanks for checking, Garner.  I was away from the computer for two days taking care of my wife. New complications from her cancer ride. I was on the phone with docs and insurance companies as well as getting her to appointments, etc.

 

Gotta geaux.

 

As always, hugs!

 

Jeff

 

Fixed your post for ya, Ultra. 

 

Hugs to you and your wife!

 

Ha!! I LOVE it!!! Thanks for the correction, teach.

 

Hey, guess what?  I got an appointment today with a psychiatrist who IS in my network. I can't see him until September 16th, which about 4 days before I run out of clonazepam, but that's better than none! Long story, but his assistant has been with him for 20 of the 30 yrs of the psychiatrist' career. She was actually nice! She said she thinks he'll write me the script. I hoping he's "old school" and will be lenient in his benzo writing. It's an hour and 45 minutes away. We'll see. Four days before I run out!! Pretty amazing. I'm hoping nothing keeps the appointment from happening. I'm not gonna say a word about tapering. I need this stuff for years since it'll take me that long to whip this stuff.

 

Crossing fingers!!

 

Thanks to everyone for continued support.

 

Geaux Tigers!

 

Jeff

 

Good news! 

Will they cover your 4 day  shortfall?

[Guest [Ma...]]

Friends,

I have posted on the titration board as well.

Thought I would pick the smart minds here too.

 

I cannot continue MT X. Simply too symptomatic.

I would like help on planning a cross to V.

I will need to triangulate the dosage for I'm a fast metabolizer for the CYP2C19 pathway.

Here is my current dosing schedule.

6:30 am - .105 X

9:30 am - 2 mg V

10:30 am - .105 X

1:30 pm - .105 X

4:30 pm - .105 X

7:30 pm - .105 X

10:00 pm - 2 mg V

11:30 pm - .105 X

 

What I wish to do is cross over, stabilize and then MT. I will need to dry MT in that my Pdoc is not on board with a liquid MT.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

Marija

 

Anyone?

[[cs...]]

By the way, for those interested, here is my DRY CUT TAPER CALCULATOR. It's made up for Clonazepam 0.5mg tablets but you can use it for any med:

https://app.box.com/s/5gvpbeg9ovh057xxzt3g5d7whwrekcpm

Click at the top right "Open with Excel" or "Download" and you can plug in any cut and tablet weight amounts you want.

[[ga...]]

 

Hello Gardener,

 

I hear you loud and clear.  I read some of the posts and they will mention that they cut by .0025 mg per day.  I think to myself what does that mean because I was tapering by .5 ml per day. I guess I don't know how to convert ml to mg.

Yes, thank goodness for the math and dilution gurus.  You are all the best!

 

With gratitude,

doodle dog

 

 

Its just the relationship between how many mgs you mix with how much liquid.  Rx Diazepam Oral Solution comes from the mfgr, with 1mg of V in each ml of liquid, so the conversion is 1mg=1ml.  If you then dilute 1ml with 9ml water, now you have 1mg in 10ml, 0r 1mg=10ml  Or if you dissolve 1mg of diazepam tablet in 2mg of alcohol and add 98 ml water, now you have 1mg in 100mls or 1mg=100ml.    The conversion is whatever ratio of med to liquid you have chosen.

 

I'm not trying to embarass folks by trying to show that it's pretty simple, but I think it would make you  feel a whole lot more at ease if I could really understand it, rather than just some anonymous poster on a message board giving you your taper instructions.

 

JMHO

 

You are not some anonymous poster, you are one of the MATH GURUS!

Actually, I trust my judgement about how intelligent a person seems when they write better than my judgement on where the decimal place goes these days. And, of course, I have my 2 college kids to double check the math. They are much more willing to check things over than to start from scratch.

 

BTW, I do understand my own taper with where I'm at right now. I don't understand how you math gurus can figure conversion after conversion and taper after taper and get all those decimals in the right places, to boot!