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No need to apologize guys go for it. Some great points are being brought up here ❤️

 

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Hey Shayna,

How has your weekend been going? I hope the decent sleep kept going. I got more than usual last night so I’m a little happy about that! Have a great Sunday

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55 minutes ago, [[C...] said:

Yes, 'benzene' is nasty. But it does not follow that chemicals which include it in its structure are 'nasty'. It just doesn't work like that

I dunno Colin, but the FDA got a bit interested in making a statement last year here: https://www.fda.gov/drugs/pharmaceutical-quality-resources/fda-alerts-drug-manufacturers-risk-benzene-contamination-certain-drugs

"Class 1 solvents such as benzene should not be employed in the manufacture of drug substances, excipients, or drug products because of their unacceptable toxicity. The guidance notes that if benzene use is unavoidable to produce a drug product with a significant therapeutic advance, then its levels should be restricted to 2 parts per million (ppm), unless otherwise justified."

I don't know how many parts per million in benzos but it is in the name itself. I would be interested in how the FDA determines  "otherwise justified" given they say even small amounts are toxic. Maybe if only taken for 2 -4 weeks but when you think people like myself have taken these for years ( up until last March anyway) 

Also in this article from 2 years ago in The Guardian where tests showed high amounts of benzene turning up in a multitude of products, personal care, sunscreens, hand sanitisers etc...  I guess it is a slow process with multi-million $$$ consequences. It is just basic soap and water for me now!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/18/benzene-carcinogenic-chemical-personal-care-products-us

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Yeah I would also be interested in signing out with their definition of a "significant therapeutic advance" would be as well. That sounds like preponderance of evidence in a civil trial, "more likely than not".

Considering they also say that natural substances with some of the most medicinal uses possible on the planet (ex. Marijuana for depression, heroine for pain, cocaine for energy, etc) that have been around for thousands of years, no longer have any medicinal use, due to "controlled substance" laws. But aren't all the FDA chemical concoction pills that were created in a lab, created in a controlled environment?

Again, this is all fake government made stuff. These are not organic substances from the earth. These were not grown naturally, nor were they utilized by tribes or natives. These should not be placed in our bodies, and the science is irrelevant anyways, it was performed by a bunch of idiots in white lab coats.

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There is so much intelligence here, but I can say it in another way not as intellectually tho I’m afraid.
there is a bunch of puppet masters who control everything. They see the world as a business. I believe many of them are Eugenists. They are not in the business of making us well. They don’t want us here, except if we aren’t here who will do their dirty work? They want us sick and distracted, like the dumb little sheep they think we are. 
open ur mind. Be a free thinker. We have the power. There’s more of us than there are of them. They just have the money. 
we don’t need to take drugs. We don’t always need to listen to what drs say. 
for instance my mum has thyroid problems. She was originally given medication for an under active thyroid. For some reason, probably because of the “one size fits all” approach with this medication, my mum went into over active thyroiditis. Now anyone with half a brain would think ..right, she has low thyroid and is medicated to increase those hormones, she’s been given too much, gone over active. So best we dial that medication back. Well apparently not, she was left on the same dose by her endocrinologist, and as a result has not been well for a long time.

when I questioned her endocrinologist about this I was told “with all due respect I think I know what I’m doing” 

 

 

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Agreed, my mom was also diagnosed with thyroid problems by a doctor. She's been on the same thyroid medicine for probably 40 years now. I asked her recently, do they know why your thyroid is off in the first place? I think it's more complicated than taking pills for the symptoms. What about the actual problem?

Maybe they could have solved their thyroid problems decades ago, if it hadn't been for the irresponsible and unsafe prescribing of thyroid chemical concoctions made in a lab and produced on a synthetic conveyor belt.

I'm still not sure of these government definitions like "significant therapeutic advance" or "benefits outweigh the risks" garbage. Sounds like nothing more than a Civil Trial. And that's exactly what it is, the courts have ruled on it to be constitutionally okay, even though it's not.

So essentially this isn't necessarily the doctors fault, it's probably the court or the senate or the house to blame. And of course it would also be the meth lab concoctions, aka Big Pharma meth labs renamed as therapeutic advances for the medical industry.

Think about it like this, what's the difference of a pill chemical lab, and a meth lab? I'm sure you could find some really advanced scientists to cook up some meth, press it into a pill form with shapes and colors, submit it to an FDA panel for a breakthrough Energy Medicine, and get approval by the FDA since it's supposedly non-biased. Oh wait, they already have, it's called Adderall. The government is a joke, without getting into bashing.

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9 minutes ago, [[J...] said:

Yeah I would also be interested in signing out with their definition of a "significant therapeutic advance" would be as well. That sounds like preponderance of evidence in a civil trial, "more likely than not".

Considering they also say that natural substances with some of the most medicinal uses possible on the planet (ex. Marijuana for depression, heroine for pain, cocaine for energy, etc) that have been around for thousands of years, no longer have any medicinal use, due to "controlled substance" laws. But aren't all the FDA chemical concoction pills that were created in a lab, created in a controlled environment?

Again, this is all fake government made stuff. These are not organic substances from the earth. These were not grown naturally, nor were they utilized by tribes or natives. These should not be placed in our bodies, and the science is irrelevant anyways, it was performed by a bunch of idiots in white lab coats.

Here in Australia we have Medicare. So medicare pick up the tab for medicines that are a part of the therapeutic benefits scheme, pick up most drs but not specialists, and when u are in hospital cover that cost too. 
they don’t cover naturopaths. Neither do insurance companies anymore. Because they don’t make any money off it. 
I think one day they will try and outlaw naturopathy. 

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2 minutes ago, [[J...] said:

Agreed, my mom was also diagnosed with thyroid problems by a doctor. She's been on the same thyroid medicine for probably 40 years now. I asked her recently, do they know why your thyroid is off in the first place? I think it's more complicated than taking pills for the symptoms. What about the actual problem?

Maybe they could have solved their thyroid problems decades ago, if it hadn't been for the irresponsible and unsafe prescribing of thyroid chemical concoctions made in a lab and produced on a synthetic conveyor belt.

I'm still not sure of these government definitions like "significant therapeutic advance" or "benefits outweigh the risks" garbage. Sounds like nothing more than a Civil Trial. And that's exactly what it is, the courts have ruled on it to be constitutionally okay, even though it's not.

So essentially this isn't necessarily the doctors fault, it's probably the court or the senate or the house to blame. And of course it would also be the meth lab concoctions, aka Big Pharma meth labs renamed as therapeutic advances for the medical industry.

Think about it like this, what's the difference of a pill chemical lab, and a meth lab? I'm sure you could find some really advanced scientists to cook up some meth, press it into a pill form with shapes and colors, submit it to an FDA panel for a breakthrough Energy Medicine, and get approval by the FDA since it's supposedly non-biased. Oh wait, they already have, it's called Adderall. The government is a joke, without getting into bashing.

Yeah aderall. The drug millions of children are being given. Getting amphetamines on a street corner? Oh don’t do that. That’s frowned upon. Getting it from someone in a white coat? Responsible parenting. Jesus effing Christ. 

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3 minutes ago, [[S...] said:

Here in Australia we have Medicare. So medicare pick up the tab for medicines that are a part of the therapeutic benefits scheme, pick up most drs but not specialists, and when u are in hospital cover that cost too. 
they don’t cover naturopaths. Neither do insurance companies anymore. Because they don’t make any money off it. 
I think one day they will try and outlaw naturopathy. 

Yes, I'm so glad you brought that up, almost forgot about that. My insurance company here in Seattle cover the naturopath doctor for me last year. I went to a naturopath thinking it would be better, only that was a bunch of snake oil too.

They ended up recommending that I buy massive amounts of almonds and walnuts and using this really expensive organic bar soap and getting the most expensive lotions, which happened to be recommended and sold by their practice. Essentially they were trying to get me to purchase all these high-end green organic industry products, you know like organic milk and organic honey soap and all this really expensive stuff for wealthier individuals.

And the visit itself was covered by insurance, but not any of the high-end products that they were trying to shove down my throat. I'm sure the products were probably better than the synthetic ones from big pharma, but either way it seems like it was a sales tactic.

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1 minute ago, [[J...] said:

Yes, I'm so glad you brought that up, almost forgot about that. My insurance company here in Seattle cover the naturopath doctor for me last year. I went to a naturopath thinking it would be better, only that was a bunch of snake oil too.

They ended up recommending that I buy massive amounts of almonds and walnuts and using this really expensive organic bar soap and getting the most expensive lotions, which happened to be recommended and sold by their practice. Essentially they were trying to get me to purchase all these high-end green organic industry products, you know like organic milk and organic honey soap and all this really expensive stuff for wealthier individuals.

And the visit itself was covered by insurance, but not any of the high-end products that they were trying to shove down my throat. I'm sure the products were probably better than the synthetic ones from big pharma, but either way it seems like it was a sales tactic.

Yeah I get that, but I actually was helped by a naturopath at my worst. I agree there are a lot of charlatans out there in this field too. 
I believe trying natural things first is the way to go. Just obvious western medicine aren’t in the business of wellness if they completely exclude  therapies that have been used for hundreds of years

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I agree with you there, I'm not denying that. But the reason I went to the naturopath was because I didn't want to use the prescription cream my doctor had prescribed. I had some rash on my face from benzo withdrawal, my face was all red and scaly and dry and it was burning really bad. Multiple people on this website have had the same issue.

The doctors had diagnosed me with dermatitis, said that it wouldn't go away without medicine. So I went to the naturopath, they started recommending hundreds of dollars worth of Honey soap and organic almond milk and eating pounds of walnuts and chestnuts and cashews and almonds. They said that I was lacking e vitamins, and that I needed to start rubbing organic milk on my face. I never did, it was way too expensive, it was literally like $500 worth of stuff for a face rash caused by benzos.

So fast forward about a week or two, and it went away on its own like everybody else on this website. Maybe the naturopath method would have helped, but it still resolved itself like nature intended, without their $500 worth of recommendations.

Essentially the new battery powered vehicle industry and the green organic food industry and green energy savings, is the new modern version of the oil industry and the synthetic pill industry. But with that being said, I still try to eat all organic and try to utilize Natural Things First.

 

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20 minutes ago, [[S...] said:

I ate a bunch of carbs tho so maybe too much insulin?

Funny because I was always lead to believe that if you can't sleep then you should eat carbs. This was years ago and I would get up and eat a sandwich or a bowl of cereal.  Something to do with tryptophan but I guess it needs to be complex carbs

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Agreed, naturopathy is completely unaffordable for most. I also think it’s more preventative. Once ur in a bad way it takes more than almond milk to get u out of that pickle. 

Wu Wei I always thought that too but I’m just interested to tinker and I’ve noticed it’s not always the case with me. I notice my engine revving a bit after carbs lately. honestly tho who knows, if u spend all ur time thinking before eating u would do ur own head in. 
sometimes u just need to eat the burger u know? 🤗

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When I say burger too I’m talking home made just to clarify. Won’t catch me eating maccas I’d rather poke my eye out with a stick 

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9 minutes ago, [[J...] said:

I had some rash on my face

Should have used plain old vaseline ! 

Native Americans discovered the use of petroleum jelly for protecting and healing skin.^[4] Sophisticated oil pits had been built as early as 1415–1450 in Western Pennsylvania.^[5

 

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Coconut oil? 

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After sitting here reading all these comments and thinking about these different kinds of doctors, different government branches, different snake oil sales from different Pharmaceutical companies, etc, I asked myself how did we get this way as a human race in the first place?

After almost 5 years of withdrawal, I started coming to my own conclusion of what's healthy and what's not. If it's an actual whole entire fruit or vegetable hanging off of a tree or growing from the ground, most likely you can eat it just like an animal. We are animals after all right?

Same with animals, we can eat animals too. Chickens, cows, deer, rabbits, whatever, they're edible just like us. Salmon, tuna Marine life, they're also edible. These are all real things, real fruits and vegetables and animals and fish swimming around. These are all live creatures, it's all mother nature. I think that's what we were intended to eat, was simple nature.

Now the only problem with my method, is it's a little extreme. We can't all be expected to go primitive, we can't go around hunting and Gathering all day long again. So I guess that's the problem with this whole argument that I'm putting up, how do we live a healthy life without going primitive? I'm not sure, that's why I think the natives have the answer. They weren't exactly primitive, they were like a more advanced version of primitive humans.

I really honestly think the natives have the best answers for us. They survived for 14,000 years with hardly any issues. We've only been around a few hundred years and we've got massive issues.

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Why would natives help us. I sure wouldn’t. Look what we’ve done to them. 

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Yeah it's a damn shame. There were millions and millions of natives prior to the Europeans coming over. And then once that happened, the European diseases and viruses took out about 80% of the natives and killed them. And then of course we Enslaved the remaining ones and shipped the other ones off to reservations. We disregarded all of their healthy living advice, and destroyed our own race in the process.

So now we're living in the present, trying to put the pieces together, still listening to our own medical doctors and government, wondering why things are messed up. It's like a light bulb moment, we know what happened, but how do we move forward?

I think that's what's happening, Society has realized we're kind of doomed. Everybody's eating McDonald's cheeseburgers and watching the Kardashians and listening to Kanye West and voting for Trump. Of course it's more complicated than that, but you know, sitting around getting drunk and ordering things off of Amazon Prime and having pizzas delivered. It's not good.

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We aren’t meant to live forever. It’s sad but true. Keeping people alive longer is creating the overpopulation problem in the first place. 
but you can choose to live as healthily as u can and that is in nature, in the sunshine, eating as clean as u can, and limit stress where possible. 
I’m ticking all boxes except the stress part, but if I had the means I would move somewhere with less people, since people are the cause of my stress.

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3 hours ago, [[J...] said:

Yeah it's a damn shame. There were millions and millions of natives prior to the Europeans coming over. And then once that happened, the European diseases and viruses took out about 80% of the natives and killed them. And then of course we Enslaved the remaining ones and shipped the other ones off to reservations. We disregarded all of their healthy living advice, and destroyed our own race in the process.

So now we're living in the present, trying to put the pieces together, still listening to our own medical doctors and government, wondering why things are messed up. It's like a light bulb moment, we know what happened, but how do we move forward?

I think that's what's happening, Society has realized we're kind of doomed. Everybody's eating McDonald's cheeseburgers and watching the Kardashians and listening to Kanye West and voting for Trump. Of course it's more complicated than that, but you know, sitting around getting drunk and ordering things off of Amazon Prime and having pizzas delivered. It's not good.

Ugh the effing Kardashians. When is their 15 minutes up seriously. A woman who based an entire career off of a sex tape and she’s preaching to everyone about prison reform. 
turn ur damn tvs off for the love of god.

Edited March 17 by [Sh...]

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1 minute ago, [[S...] said:

We aren’t meant to live forever. It’s sad but true. Keeping people alive longer is creating the overpopulation problem in the first place. 
but you can choose to live as healthily as u can and that is in nature, in the sunshine, eating as clean as u can, and limit stress where possible. 
I’m ticking all boxes except the stress part, but if I had the means I would move somewhere with less people, since people are the cause of my stress.

Yes, this is one of the most accurate comments I've read today. We were only supposed to live until about 35 years old Max, and generally we died from predators or bacteria infections or succumb to our own injuries out in the wild. Now we're dying in nursing homes at 90 years old all wrinkled and stuffed full of synthetic pills.

So I agree with you, all we can do is live as healthy as possible and try to eliminate stress and try to never put any more synthetic pills in our body. My grandma used to say an apple a day keeps the doctor away, and she was right. She lived into her '80s and she was happy.

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2 minutes ago, [[S...] said:

people are the cause of my stress

Agree, on the whole I don't like people, present company excepted!

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Dr bashing and Kardashian bashing omg I’m gunna be in the naughty corner again in a minute 😂

and I broke my potty mouth promise! I’m sorry Colin! But I mean I feel like it was required to drive my Kardashian comment home.