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It's probably a gelatin cap filled with some oil.  The cap dissolves quickly in the stomach and the oil is absorbed.  Not dissimilar to eating a gummy although THC from 10mg of oil may be absorbed a bit differently than 10mg of gummy.  I wouldn't think that the difference would be large under normal circumstances.

 

There's no easy way to take half a capsule if it's built like I think it is.  It would be messy (and would taste bad).

 

I have seen THC tablets in 10mg sizes that could be broken in half.  I don't know if those are available in your area.

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I made a little CBN concoction yesterday and tried it last night.  About 6.5% of the THC in my usual nighttime tincture was converted to CBN (using heat).  Tasted even worse than usual (if that's possible). 

 

I could definitely feel the additional sedation coming on after 30 minutes or so.  It reminded me somewhat of the sedation feeling caused by Trazodone - sort of a heavy, tired sensation.  That plus the mental relaxation from the THC had me expecting great things. 

 

Alas, I drank way too much liquid in the evening, and had to get up and pee 4 times during the night (the joys of a 65-year-old prostate).  I did sleep, but it was more broken than desired.  Chronic insomnia will find a way, I guess.

 

Will try again but with less liquid in me.

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About 6.5% of the THC in my usual nighttime tincture was converted to CBN (using heat).

 

Interesting, bads.

 

Was the heat you refer to simply the heat of decarbing?

 

And how do you know that the figure is 6.5%? Is there a formula?

 

I like your report of a heavy, tired sensation!

 

:smitten:

 

Katz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hey guys, I friend of mine brought over a couple of vape carts that his brother makes. It's OG Kush, I tried it but it wasn't much help for anything. I caused a strange feeling, hard to describe, kind of like you are seeing time in snapshots like you don't remember what you were doing a second ago. Does that sound at all familiar?
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About 6.5% of the THC in my usual nighttime tincture was converted to CBN (using heat).

 

Interesting, bads.

 

Was the heat you refer to simply the heat of decarbing?

 

And how do you know that the figure is 6.5%? Is there a formula?

 

I like your report of a heavy, tired sensation!

 

:smitten:

 

Katz

 

Much hotter.  I used 320F (160C).  Took several hours.  I'm learning.  Potency is hplc derived.

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No bladder issues last night.  :)

 

Took the CBN-enriched tincture again last night.  Heavy feeling again came on about 30-ish minutes afterward.  Dozed off around 15 minutes later while working on the laptop, but then put it down and slept decently (for me).  I was also mentally drained from coding for 8 hours, fwiw.  Mental fatigue tends to lower my nighttime anxiety.

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Can anyone here tell me if taking CBD oil blunts the sleep-inducing effects of THC? I took some CBD oil right before my usual dose of THC last night and suffered insomnia. Both were Indica strains and I was making an assumption that the CBD oil from Indica would also be sleep-inducing but I could be wrong.

 

I don't know what's going on but I seem to only sleep every other day now as I continue this taper. I'll get one good night of sleep followed by either insomnia or fake, broken sleep full of sleep misperception where I think I'm awake but I'm actually sleeping lightly.

 

And what's all this about talk about CBN? I don't know what that is. Is it helpful for sleep too? How do I get it or make it?

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DBM

How did the gummy work for you ?

Thanks

 

Not good. Mind racing all night. It was either the CBN or the bowl of soup I ate with homemade broth. Could have been the glutamate.

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Wow that’s too bad. Others here know about those

products. Maybe you used the wrong kind for

sleep. Keep reading on here, I’ve learned a lot .

But never tried any. Good luck.

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I’ve read about CBN for a while and thought it would work. Maybe a different brand/ratio next time. I’ve given up, honestly. Nothing can help me.
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When I take CBD, it kind of makes he kind of hyper, so your experience doesn't surprise me.  I think CBD can be useful for sleep, but it takes a fairly large dose, from what I hear.

 

CBN is a naturally-occurring oxidation product of THC (THCa -> THC -> CBN).  It's supposed to be a decent sleep aid, but I've not seen much in stores.  It's no more difficult to make than a good soufflé.  Just takes heat and time, but you have to do it right.  I took slightly more last night and may have slept over 7 hours last night, which is exceptional for me.  Yesterday was also another big number crunching day, which tends to help with my sleep (maybe a drained brain generates few bad thoughts/emotions).

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I want to try CBD to lessen some of my sxs. However, I've read that it's metabolized by liver enzyme CYP 2C19. Has anyone with a polymorphism of this enzyme used CBD with success? Miyu? Thanks!

 

Did you try CBD being an ultra rapid metabolizer?

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I do not have that polymorphism, but it's my understanding that off-setting the timing of dosing of CBD versus your benzo should alleviate that concern.
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Hey guys, I friend of mine brought over a couple of vape carts that his brother makes. It's OG Kush, I tried it but it wasn't much help for anything. I caused a strange feeling, hard to describe, kind of like you are seeing time in snapshots like you don't remember what you were doing a second ago. Does that sound at all familiar?

 

Looks like your question got lost in the shuffle.

 

Yes, the feeling you had like snapshots is common with concentrated dose(s)/hits of oil in a short period of time. A much older friend of mine described a similar episode when he was using vap pen. His description was just like yours. Sometimes it is better to use a combination of 1 to 1/2 to 1 etc. CBD to THC in oil pens to smooth out the THC and feel more comfortable.

 

Now, using a homemade oil cartidge can be risky. Most use butane as an extract chemical. It leaves a residue and one can taste it often even when bought legally and extracted with butane. The best cartidges/pens are those either CO2 extracted of rosin based. The vap illness with cannabis oil was traced back to an illegal home based oil cartidge dealer.

 

Long winded.

 

In summary, no need to worry about the affect--just one of those things when one vaporizes high level of THC.

 

BTW--OG flower smoked or vaped can't match any oil. A good OG is really--good!

 

Cheers

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I have been using CBD for helping me with withdrawal process.

 

I the type I use is Corante CBD

 

My thoughts are is that it is safe to use. It's a neuroprotective.

 

I have used a pretty high dosage for periods of a month.

 

No bad side effects. I think it helps a great deal.

 

I think what you may think were negative effects, were just withdrawal.

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i am taperirng, bad bad bad. it's scary and hard.  is mj ok for us to take durring taper?  i tried thc and Wedding cake. i don' tknow what to make of it.  it makes my memory and my forgetfullness even more pronounced, it is distracting and heleps mee sleep, but, i don't want it to be hurting my brain or healing in the long run. thankyou.
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also, why am i feeling worse the next day after puffing at night, what is causing this, please?  i mean i have worsening anxiety and brain fog and ..all that.  is this me imagining it. or is mj causing worsening the next day?  pleaese?

 

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Problems sleeping

Can fall asleep easily but wake up middle of the night 2am

And can't fall asleep again every night the same 

Would CBD oil.help or does that give side effects

Pls your advice

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i am taperirng, bad bad bad. it's scary and hard.  is mj ok for us to take durring taper?  i tried thc and Wedding cake. i don' tknow what to make of it.  it makes my memory and my forgetfullness even more pronounced, it is distracting and heleps mee sleep, but, i don't want it to be hurting my brain or healing in the long run. thankyou.

 

also, why am i feeling worse the next day after puffing at night, what is causing this, please?  i mean i have worsening anxiety and brain fog and ..all that.  is this me imagining it. or is mj causing worsening the next day?  pleaese?

 

Yes, Cathymp sometimes cannabis and/or particular strains have a tendency to promote both memory and forgetfullness while under the influence. Certain that all who have used have experienced such and have a story, e.g. going to refrig and forgetting why you openned the door etc. Very common side effect.

 

You could try using earlier in evening and/or just using enough to feel the effects mildly. You might also experiment with adding a little CBD along with your thc or Wedding cake. CBD may dampen such effects and has other benefits you can read about online.

 

Such could help with next day feelings of anxiety or brain fog. 

 

Just thought I would respond--surely some of the members of this forum topic will have suggestions for you. I am relatively new on the site and others may know more about the particular benzo you are taking etc.

 

Cheers

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Has anyone found anything that helps OCD, racing thoughts, anxiety. Etc?

 

Meditation+indica= no more  OCD, racing thoughts, anxiety

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My medication specialist who has been helping with my benzo taper recommends a 1:1 CBD/THC ratio for symptoms. I have a medical cannabis card and my dispensary has pharmaceutical grade CBD and THC drops so there is no guessing with dosing.They are made by a company called Panaxia. I put the drops in a veggie capsule and swallow it. It stays in your system longer this way. Just start slow, there's good information about this from a site called Project CBD. :)
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My medication specialist who has been helping with my benzo taper recommends a 1:1 CBD/THC ratio for symptoms. I have a medical cannabis card and my dispensary has pharmaceutical grade CBD and THC drops so there is no guessing with dosing.They are made by a company called Panaxia. I put the drops in a veggie capsule and swallow it. It stays in your system longer this way. Just start slow, there's good information about this from a site called Project CBD. :)

 

My lab tests Panaxia's products!  They make good stuff.  They've got a CBN:THC tablet in development that I'm anxious to try for sleep.

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