Stomach healing place

[[ma...]]

Spartacus,

 

Do you remember when you felt like you started digesting food again.

 

Thanks,

 

Mama

Hello Mama,

 

Within a few weeks of jumping I started to have an appetite, particularly in the evening.

 

This seemed to be important in relieving the stagnant pond syndrome...or perhaps it all happened the other way around?

 

Either way stomach emptying seems to be the key for me(though I have gastroparesis so it's going to be). Avoiding anything that slows emptying is crucial(fat, excess fibre, PPIs, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, sleeping, iced water, excess exercise after eating, opiate painkillers, some antidepressants, some antihistamines, withdrawal ).

 

In this context moving around after eating, gently pottering, is much better than sitting around, and a slow walk after a couple of hours or before eating the next meal can help.

 

Eating every two hours I found unhelpful...though I did do it sometimes to try to increase my intake and because it sometimes seemed to help the burning pain.

 

Ultimately it upped the acid and never gave my stomach a break, perpetuated the vicious cycle; it didn't help train the idiot organ to fill, churn, digest and empty.

 

Take care,

 

spartacus

 

Thank you so much Spartacus for the tips!

 

Hope today finds you well.

 

Mama

[[sp...]]

http://www.sharecare.com/health/ginger-supplements/what-medications-interact-ginger

 

Will the fresh chopped ginger tea I'm drinking interfer with valium....  can the boffins please read and tell me if this is a problem ....  geez, is nothing sacred?

 

Hello wisernow,

 

I periodically drove myself round the twist when tapering trying to decide whether something I took or did would raise or lower my blood level of diazepam. In the end I accepted there were too many unknowns...they just didn't compute.

 

Anything that increases gastric motility and stomach emptying, may increase diazepam absorption, and that includes ginger. Diazepam is better absorbed in an acid environment and ginger may decrease acidity(trials differ on this)so may decrease absorption. Actual absorption takes place in the lower gut, ginger may slow transit here and increase absorption.

 

Once absorbed then we're into the liver, the eighteen isotopes of the cytochrome system and all bets are off. No-one can really predict how different drugs competing here will interact in the short or long term in a given individual...genetic differences can be striking, from ultra-fast to super-slow metabolisers.

 

And that would be why whenever talking about drug interactions, usually for legal purposes, the data talk about "may" or "can"...meaning it is theoretically possible and don't say we didn't tell you so.

 

In the end the aim of tapering a drug is to smoothly reduce blood levels over time...not keep it the same. I decided this was best achieved by doing nothing weird or dramatic. I included whole ginger, crystallised or stem, in my diet in small quantities and, having decided against all processed foods for other reasons, included ginger capsules in that.

 

But I didn't for a minute pretend any of it was "scientific". Given the state of withdrawal "research" we are all relentlessly pushed into "suck it and see"...so I did.

 

Take care,

 

spartacus

 

 

 

 

 

 

[[ig...]]

Hi,

I've read that some foods create "acid rebound", and milk is one of them. Tums are reputed to

do this too.

Hope this helps,

Iggy 

[[sp...]]

Hi Iggy,

 

I have never understood why the baby food of another species, and a ruminant vegetarian species at that, would be considered to be a whole food of unparalleled worth to mankind...unless it's something to do with the various "milk marketing boards".

 

Milk is evil incarnate if your GI tract is feeling the pain. It makes gross amounts of acid and hangs around forever in the stomach. You don't have to vomit back "yoghourt" that often to cure you of the habit.

 

"Ulcer diets", astoundingly unsuccessful as judged by general surgeons spending half their working lives dealing with haemorrhages and perforations, were last century's unshakeable truth. They were white diets, milk, boiled fish, potato, rice pudding, white bread, blancmange.

 

The Wehrmacht formed "Stomach divisions", collecting together all soldiers with GI problems so they could more easily supply their special diets. What was remarkable was that after Stalingrad and D-day when front lines were thin, such units often ended up on the Eastern front eating whatever they could dig out of the frozen ground. Turnips and raw potatoes seemed to be very helpful in healing ulcers where more conventional white diets had failed abysmally.

 

Despite this, in the 1970's patients could still be found on general surgical wards having their bleeding ulcers treated with milk drips...full fat, straight from the bottle through a nasogastric tube into the stomach. They usually came to crisis and surgery.

 

And it shouldn't be forgotten that acid suppressant drugs, while not perfect, changed this forever

 

Take care,

 

spartacus...still looking for anyone who has tried raw potato juice for GERD.

[[Ju...]]

I am at five mg. Valium now, using a soy milk solution.  I have a little "benzo belly," mostly at bedtime, or at least that is when the issue bothers me the most.  I have started having chest pressure from indigestion after meals, not pleasant because I have to wonder if I have heart problems (which I don't).  I have some nausea; this affects me only when we are out on the town, which is of course the worse possible time.  Are these symptoms typical?  Do you have them?

 

Thanks very much for responding.

[[ro...]]

I have just found this sight and am so happy to be able to talk about my GI symptoms.

I have had the burning stomach so very  badly. Severe diearea mix with constipation some times.

My stomach and intestines are so inflamed that it is in my eyes.

My lower back is in so much pain.

 

Does anyone lips burn and swell after eating? Does it get worse for anyone after eating.

I have felt so alone with this and fear that it will never go away. Please any advice.

[[ig...]]

Hi Spartacus,

pasteurized, homogenized cow's milk is half dead if you ask me.

Interesting about the root vegetables helping ulcers. And potato juice? Interesting also.

 

robbin p, tummy problems seem to be common in w/d. You aren't alone.

 

Iggy 

[[Co...]]

Hi Cool,

 

Yes, I get this.  It is awful.  I can't eat very much at all.  Then I get so weak, especially in my arms and legs.  No choice but to sit down.  I have the dizziness, like you are on a boat and the nausea comes and goes.  The nausea is worse in the mornings.  All of this, after eating can leave me non functional throughout the day.  It happens immediately after eating.  How about you?

 

I see you are at 8 months too.  I will be 8 months tomorrow, and I can't believe I still have this.

 

Take Care,

 

That is me exactly to the T! The only small difference is my weakness is only in my arms and the nausea is worse at night. Just started happening with this new wave I'm in. The dizziness has been pretty bad.

Mama2

[[ro...]]

Does anyone know about bile reflux?

[[or...]]

Julianna I noticed this and thought I would quickly post to you:

using a soy milk solution

 

I am a vegetarian. Soy has never bothered me. I've eaten it for years.  But last summer, after a gi bleed caused by being on the wrong (well, right at the time) heart meds for too long, I developed an awful sensitivity to everything I ate. Or so I thought. I persevered for 6 months in this dreadful, nauseated state, eliminating first one thing and then the other until I eliminated . . .soy. I ate lots of soy-based stuff for dinner . .  you name it, I ate it. Soy is good, right? No it's not. At least not for me. And not on this benzo taper. So when I eliminated soy, my nausea-after-dinner troubles went away.

 

Just something to think about. I know changing from your soy milk taper to something else would be hell, but, if it eliminates your nausea . . .

 

(I'm using liquids, too, but because I can't tolerate anything, I make my own liquid solution using vodka).

 

One of the many things this awful taper has taught me is that what I could rely on to be OK in the past is not OK now. Medications, food, supplements . . . it seems it's all up in the air.

 

Bummer, isn't it?

 

Hope this helps,

 

Okatz

[[ro...]]

Hoping someone know about bile reflux, ia this related?

[[ov...]]

What is bile reflux??

OC 

[[ro...]]

Guess no one has heard of it.

Instead of acid its alakine, burns like hell.  Its that yellow stuff when you vomit ,that bile it can have some of the worst symptons.

 

[[ov...]]

Hi Robbin:  I just googled it, I may have that.  As the acid I have doesn't burn really, and it is staining my teeth kind of a yellowish green color and I notice the coating on my tongue is that color also.  Doesn't sound like a good thing to have from what I read.  Talked more about PPI, and a few other meds with severe side effects, one of them being anxiety, now that sounds fun in w/d.  Also the article spoke about surgery, oh yeah, that too sounds fun!

 

Hope we don't have this!

xo OC  :smitten:

[[ro...]]

I have both.lots of diarrhea that's yellow and burns.

Get aPH test kit that can help to see if you are to alkaline.

[[Ju...]]

Thanks, Okatz.  Coincidentally, I decided that maybe the soy milk was the digestive problem for me.  So I am leaving it off today.  I am at one five-mg. pill, and so it is easy so far.  I really appreciate hearing from you.

[[do...]]

Hi all!

 

Got my results back from specialist.  No GERD.  No acid reflux.  No gallbladder issues and nothing from biopsies.  Doc said to stop tecta PPI.  Only take zantac if I have any heartburn issues.  So....we shall see how it goes.  I do take lemon and honey as well as organic cider vinegar and follow an acid free, dairy free and gluten free diet.  Take probiotics, aloe vera, iron, magnesium and zinc as well as a good multi vitamin .

 

However have been tryjng to fight a sore throat for two weeks.  Any suggestions?

 

Thanks.

 

Domestic Advisor

 

I do currentl

[[ro...]]

What kind of tests did have?

 

[[do...]]

Hi Robbin:

 

I had an endoscopy, gall bladder scan, upper GI series and am abdomenal ultrasound done.  Also a mountain of bloodwork and an ekg.

 

Everything normal.  However I am low in iron and zinc.

 

Funny that once I stopped taking the ativan and even the last two weeks before jumping, the stomach pain seemed to go away.  I had very painful stomach and esophagus burning.  I spent a lot of time sobbing in great agony.  I only ate mushy bland food.  Now I am.able to eat raw food again.  I am.careful what type of food I eat.  When I deviate and have dairy or sweets or gluten, my body is not happy.

 

Please excuse my disjointed reply.  My mind is still tryi g to slow down and piece sentences together.  My thoughts post jump are still rattled.  And I get tired fairly easily.

 

Cheers.

 

Domestic Advisor

[[je...]]

Hi domestic advisor ,

I'm so glad to hear all your tests came back normal! Great news! Jenny

[[do...]]

Thanks Jenny!

 

Now to stay stress-free and leave the anxiety behind.  I think this will help the stomach too.  I have had two major waves since my first week post jump.  Both times they started with burning in my throat and ears.  Then to my stomach, tongue and through my intestines.  Yesterday a third wave began, though lesser in intensity.  My energy gets depleted quickly during one. 

 

Domestic Advisor

[[ro...]]

I have been reading that being low in zinc  can reek havoc on the stomach.

[[wi...]]

I think I now have benzo belly.    I have 8mgs to get off so I have no idea how I will cope with all this stomach discomfort.  I would love to know if others managed to get thru 12 months long tapers with benzo belly the whole time?  I can't be the only one suffering this problem....  I'm drinking the ginger tea with lemon as I write this...

 

 

[[ma...]]

I just found out I'm mildly allergic to beef, eggs, milk, nuts. and soybeans.  This was determined with a blood test.  I need to eliminate these foods to see if that is what is causing all my stomach and other problems.  I don't know what to eat for breakfast now, as milk and eggs have been such a staple for me.  All this happened after recently eating peanut butter and breaking out in hives on three different occasions, one with almond butter.

 

Does anyone have any ideas for breakfast?  I can't imagine giving up diary.  My diet already seems limited, as I have been trying to do a whole diet and avoid eating out and packaged foods.

 

I plan on having the skin test to evaluate further. 

 

Mama

[[th...]]

Fruit and raw granola