WHAT TO EXPECT

[Guest [ja...]]

maybe a shorter acting benzo would be effective i think im going to er ive taken too many different things

[Guest [pa...]]

get to the er jane these arent things to mess about with

[Guest [...]]

Jane I agree you need medical support and we cant give that here it would be unethical of us to try to.  Sorry but you need a doctor if you are taking other things. 

 

sorry

 

Lizzyxx

[[fi...]]

Jane,

 

You didn't let us down.  I had to reinstate a couple of times myself (because of going to two different short-term detox centers that brought me off of Klonopin too quickly).  You know your body better than anyone else and you did what you had to do.  Benzo withdrawal is not for the faint of heart.

 

At any rate, I hope you stabilize soon and feel better.

 

Sincerely,

 

fg

[Guest [ja...]]

I dont want to reinstate anymore although I already did...my doctor said it wont cause any complications..?

[Guest [ja...]]

just cause i messed up tonight does it mean i have to start over again?

the er doctor told me no it doesnt matter and ill be fine....

[[fi...]]

Was that your pdoc or the ER doc?

 

Sincerely,

 

fg

[Guest [ja...]]

er doc

[[fi...]]

By the way, who was in charge of your taper, if you don't mind my asking?

 

Thanks.

 

Sincerely,

 

fg

[Guest [ja...]]

like the other er doc said, stay off the benzos...and that it wouldnt ruin anything...my mind is a virgin to benzos at this point?

[Guest [ja...]]

some stupid doctor that gives out pills like candy lol

[[Ch...]]

Jane,

 

Here's what Dr. Ashton says about this:

 

      Ashton says this:BENZODIAZEPINE USE DURING AND AFTER WITHDRAWAL

 

What happens if someone who is in the course of benzodiazepine withdrawal or has successfully withdrawn needs a surgical operation? Benzodiazepines are of value as premedication before major operations and for sedation and amnesia during minor surgical procedures. Yet many ex-users are terrified that if they are given a benzodiazepine for these purposes they will become dependent all over again. They can be reassured: a single dose of a benzodiazepine given for an operation does not bring back the addiction, although the stress of an operation may re-awaken the anxiety symptoms experienced during benzodiazepine withdrawal. Symptoms reported under these circumstances have usually been the result of fear. Many personally observed patients have had repeated doses of midazolam (Versed, Hypnovel), a short-acting benzodiazepine, for dental procedures (dental phobia is common in withdrawal), and other benzodiazepines including diazepam for major and minor surgery and have recovered without complications.

http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha03.htm#24

 

Hope this helps answer your questions.

 

Challis

[[Ch...]]

Jane,

 

I need to remind you of the Forum User's Manual's policy on anti-doctor comments:

 

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Here is Colin's follow-up to the policy:

 

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=13141.0

 

Ultimately we are the ones who decide whether we are going to take recommended prescriptions or not.

 

Thanks, Jane.

 

Challis

[Guest [ja...]]

ok im gonna do the right thing and pick myself back up.

[[Ch...]]

Jane,

 

It's your choice.  I just want to make sure you know what could happen. 

But I love that you're ready to try again, girl!

 

Challis 

[Guest [ja...]]

Thank you Challis...I am still very much into W/D but am better today than I have been...may be a window opening up or it may be that tiny dose of valium i took...either way, i am gonna go be active and not lay in bed all day obsessing over the what coulds and what mays....

 

Alot of my issues are resurfacing I am noticing. Alot of paniking and depression issues are resurfacing as well as obsessive thoughts and hypochodria..and agoraphobia lol. every thing u can name it feels like i have at this moment...i am gonna try and stay active out of my room and go outdoors take baby steps into getting normal again.

 

I really hope i didnt mess up last night.

[Guest [ja...]]

By the way, who was in charge of your taper, if you don't mind my asking?

 

Thanks.

 

Sincerely,

 

fg

 

Me im gonna hang in there and fight this.

[Guest [ja...]]

Jane, I hope you have a plan. You also really need some support. The wd is hell, as you have found out. You need to have a plan, other wise you will just keep going  thru  this.

 

So sorry that you believe that you have to reinstate.

I took my 10 mg dose last night and am not taking it again

[[Ch...]]

All right, Jane...way to go! You're the one in control.

Are you doing well today?

 

Challis 

[[ve...]]

No relief from Valium yet? Anyone know why this may be happening?

 

I believe it can take several days for the valium to take effect after reinstatement, although I noticed within about 48 to 72 hours, my vertigo disappeared.  C/t off 30mg valium sounds like it could be quite intense.  I had a strong reaction 3 weeks after c/t off 6mg.  I reinstated about three weeks later. 

 

Vertigo

[[Ch...]]

That sounds like a good plan, Jane.  Come back later and tell me how your day went!

Challis

[Guest [ja...]]

No relief from Valium yet? Anyone know why this may be happening?

 

I believe it can take several days for the valium to take effect after reinstatement, although I noticed within about 48 to 72 hours, my vertigo disappeared.  C/t off 30mg valium sounds like it could be quite intense.  I had a strong reaction 3 weeks after c/t off 6mg.  I reinstated about three weeks later. 

 

Vertigo

 

Very intense it is, one huge rollercoaster....The doctors keep assuring me that ill be fine though and im out of any danger zone. Im very weepy though and emotionally unstable. 

[Guest [ja...]]

All right, Jane...way to go! You're the one in control.

Are you doing well today?

 

Challis 

Im doing better physically yes, now its turned into more of an emotional state...is that the norm?

[[Ch...]]

All right, Jane...way to go! You're the one in control.

Are you doing well today?

 

Challis 

Im doing better physically yes, now its turned into more of an emotional state...is that the norm?

 

I don't know if there is a norm in this, Jane.  I went through both, I've read here that almost everyone does go through physical and emotional phases in this.

 

Pulling for you, girl.  Hope you're out and about enjoying the day. 

Will you come find me later and tell me how you're doing?

 

Challis 

[Guest [ja...]]

Jane,

 

Here's what Dr. Ashton says about this:

 

      Ashton says this:BENZODIAZEPINE USE DURING AND AFTER WITHDRAWAL

 

What happens if someone who is in the course of benzodiazepine withdrawal or has successfully withdrawn needs a surgical operation? Benzodiazepines are of value as premedication before major operations and for sedation and amnesia during minor surgical procedures. Yet many ex-users are terrified that if they are given a benzodiazepine for these purposes they will become dependent all over again. They can be reassured: a single dose of a benzodiazepine given for an operation does not bring back the addiction, although the stress of an operation may re-awaken the anxiety symptoms experienced during benzodiazepine withdrawal. Symptoms reported under these circumstances have usually been the result of fear. Many personally observed patients have had repeated doses of midazolam (Versed, Hypnovel), a short-acting benzodiazepine, for dental procedures (dental phobia is common in withdrawal), and other benzodiazepines including diazepam for major and minor surgery and have recovered without complications.

http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha03.htm#24

 

Hope this helps answer your questions.

 

Challis

With this Info which is very much appreciated, does this pretty much mean I dont have to start all over again? It was one single dose of 10 mgs and it really didnt do anything but make me panic more. This is some VERY useful information, I really appreciate it, I just hope w/d doesnt come knocking in 8 or 9 days again...wouldnt be nice to get slammed again. Anyone experience what i did and was ok from it?