18 - 30 Month Plus Group

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Sofa.

 

This other one is called The Accidental Addict....Sleeping Pills and Tranquillisers That Make You Sick.

Authors ...Di Porritt & D Russell

 

published by Pan

 

Hope you manage to find it online,  it was a free download.

 

 

I found this book on line, just by googling. Didn’t need to download. Thanks NCT for thevtop

 

 

TM, Ian himself CTed. I’ve asked about this as I didn’t and was not on a particularly high dose. He says it makes no difference to dosage, method coming off or time on. Some can CT and be ok although very rare. Look at some of the success stories, which incidentally I cannot anymore as they trigger me! People on years and years, high doses and have no where near as hard time (you can tell the ones, those that say exercise is crucial, yeah right! Try walking in a straight line, with zero energy and not in agony from muscles like rock, tight and burning made of hot latex, that moving is agony, yet we still move), sorry but these pee me off. I just feel like replying, you have no clue!!!

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Stuck, I need to post about ears too as mine are so tight, like everything else. One of them keeps having a sharp pain that is shooting into my head. I have lots of vibrations today. Just awful 😞

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Thanks Marj....you made me feel better....I know how do some after years of abusing it walk away with hardly a scratch ....I'm not saying anything negative I'm very happy for them but it messes up with me...

 

Stuck....my face vibrates....especially around my mouth...feels like tiny bees buzzing around my mouth....and opening my mouth wide is so hard...my muscles are so tight all over...or the muscle tightness moves....it's so aweful...

 

Oh my muscle Shake inside me....that's my freak out feeling ...hate it..

 

I'm sorry everyone...no one should feel like this....it's so cruel....you all are so strong....thinking of everyone....and newbies.....bless you

 

TM

 

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Just wanted to reach out to this more experienced group.... I'm 14 months out and struggling still. Doc, wife, family, everyone wants me on an AD. I myself believe I need to be on an AD; it's come to that point.

 

Question is, are there any of you who started on an AD post withdrawal? Any experiences? I know it's different for everyone; but looking for some feedback. I'm of course very nervous to go down this path again. But the alternative isn't sustainable without an intervention of some kind.

 

Thank you for your kindness,

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Just wanted to reach out to this more experienced group.... I'm 14 months out and struggling still. Doc, wife, family, everyone wants me on an AD. I myself believe I need to be on an AD; it's come to that point.

 

Question is, are there any of you who started on an AD post withdrawal? Any experiences? I know it's different for everyone; but looking for some feedback. I'm of course very nervous to go down this path again. But the alternative isn't sustainable without an intervention of some kind.

 

Thank you for your kindness,

I'm on remeron and tapering very slowly. Having a very hard time to coming off. Feel like I'm in severe withrawl for 18 months bc the AD. If I would start all over again I would NOT go on any AD drug ever again in my life. It is always a risk if is not going to work... than what? This is just my opinion.

But If you not functioning at all or you are in deep depression you make your own decisions.

Good luck to you

Love and healing

Vca

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Colley,

 

I am not on an AD.  Someone else who has experience with ADs will hopefully reply.

 

There are many posts on this forum regarding people who started an AD during withdrawal.  I’m sure you can find more info on the alternative meds board if others don’t chime in.  Just keep in mind that your nervous system is hyper-sensitive now and you can’t predict how it will react to another med.  Have you visited the forum survivingantidepressants.org?  You may want to do this before you decide what to do.

 

Sofa

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Thanks Sofa... my search skills must suck. I can’t really find anything where people started an AD very late in their withdrawal. Anyway, not sure how you’ve made it 3 years in this mess. Much respect.

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I have been tapering one drug or another or sick from them for 14 years now. In my opinion, you need to go on YouTube and search for “Robert Whitaker” and watch one of his talks about those drugs. I have had to do everything else coping and lifestyle now instead of taking more meds to deal with withdrawal. I think we have many things we can do even in withdrawal to help us cope with depression: clean eating, sunshine, water, guided meditation, finding meaning, exercise. All kinds of stuff. Try all of that first—- for a few months, then rethink meds. What do you think and AD will do for you?

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Hello my buddies just checking in. Hope you all are keeping well 

 

I have been doing pretty well lately and seeing some definitave improvements. Im working 3 days a week now and seem to be getting stronger. Cognitive function although not perfect is good and starting to push my body a bit harder without getting slammed. Although the day after work is a bit rough i can still do small bits and pieces but cant get too frisky or i will suffer going into work the next day. Im definatly not jumping out of bed full of energy but am well enough to deal with customers and do 5 - 6 hours of installation work with minimal anxiety and enough energy to get through the day.

 

The CBD oil is amazing and convinced it has helped my healing but i did have a setback. The first bottle worked really well but the second bottle was a different batch and within a few days started getting symptomatic again but it was different this time not regular WD. Started feeling tingly, numb and lightheaded after a dose. I stopped CT 2 days ago and bounced back straight away to how i felt after the first bottle,  it might not have been processed correctly as its from a small farm down south and is unregulated. I have now ordered a big bottle from a certified dispensary with lab test sheet and certificate of approval.

 

Im feeling pretty good ATM so might use it only when the muscle pain flares up instead of everyday. Finally after 3 years started making money again and able to put food on the table for my baby girl is a good feeling. I am really hoping the rest of you get some relief soon.

 

Much love x - Lockie

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I’m hoping an AD will stop morning anxiety and the constant depression symptoms. I have ideation most days because of the anxiety.

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Lockie......I'm so happy for you....you sound so good.....thank you for sharing...

 

Colley I think about an AD all the time I'm just afraid it might make my symptoms worse but I've got prescriptions for buspirone and amitripyline ...if I would go on one I think I'd try the amitripyline cause it can helps with burning mouth...I'm going to wait for know but if this crap goes on much longer I might try one or hemp oil.....

 

Hugs

TM

 

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Hello my buddies just checking in. Hope you all are keeping well 

 

I have been doing pretty well lately and seeing some definitave improvements. Im working 3 days a week now and seem to be getting stronger. Cognitive function although not perfect is good and starting to push my body a bit harder without getting slammed. Although the day after work is a bit rough i can still do small bits and pieces but cant get too frisky or i will suffer going into work the next day. Im definatly not jumping out of bed full of energy but am well enough to deal with customers and do 5 - 6 hours of installation work with minimal anxiety and enough energy to get through the day.

 

The CBD oil is amazing and convinced it has helped my healing but i did have a setback. The first bottle worked really well but the second bottle was a different batch and within a few days started getting symptomatic again but it was different this time not regular WD. Started feeling tingly, numb and lightheaded after a dose. I stopped CT 2 days ago and bounced back straight away to how i felt after the first bottle,  it might not have been processed correctly as its from a small farm down south and is unregulated. I have now ordered a big bottle from a certified dispensary with lab test sheet and certificate of approval.

 

Im feeling pretty good ATM so might use it only when the muscle pain flares up instead of everyday. Finally after 3 years started making money again and able to put food on the table for my baby girl is a good feeling. I am really hoping the rest of you get some relief soon.

 

Much love x - Lockie

 

Glad you're doing better Lockie! It does sound like you are in orbit for landing. Welcome back to Earth. 

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Colley- I can sympathize with how difficult things are and that you want something to fix it. We’ve been conditioned to believe there is a pill to fix ANYTHING that ails us, but there is no free lunch. The side effects of AD’s are well documented, as well as, the withdrawal effects. Many people find AD’s even more difficult to withdraw from then benzos.

 

We have a sticky note on the main page of the forum about AD’s. Reading the website ‘Mad In America’ is advisable as well, insightful stuff.

 

My biggest suggestion would be to be as informed as possible, and not to make decisions based out of desperation or pressure from family.

 

I also agree with ang111....vitamin D, exercise (whatever you can manage), meditation, lots of fruit and vegetables and water!

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Hello my buddies just checking in. Hope you all are keeping well 

 

I have been doing pretty well lately and seeing some definitave improvements. Im working 3 days a week now and seem to be getting stronger. Cognitive function although not perfect is good and starting to push my body a bit harder without getting slammed. Although the day after work is a bit rough i can still do small bits and pieces but cant get too frisky or i will suffer going into work the next day. Im definatly not jumping out of bed full of energy but am well enough to deal with customers and do 5 - 6 hours of installation work with minimal anxiety and enough energy to get through the day.

 

The CBD oil is amazing and convinced it has helped my healing but i did have a setback. The first bottle worked really well but the second bottle was a different batch and within a few days started getting symptomatic again but it was different this time not regular WD. Started feeling tingly, numb and lightheaded after a dose. I stopped CT 2 days ago and bounced back straight away to how i felt after the first bottle,  it might not have been processed correctly as its from a small farm down south and is unregulated. I have now ordered a big bottle from a certified dispensary with lab test sheet and certificate of approval.

 

Im feeling pretty good ATM so might use it only when the muscle pain flares up instead of everyday. Finally after 3 years started making money again and able to put food on the table for my baby girl is a good feeling. I am really hoping the rest of you get some relief soon.

 

Much love x - Lockie

 

Glad you're doing better Lockie! It does sound like you are in orbit for landing. Welcome back to Earth. 

 

Thanks Siggy and TM. Still a struggle but sustainable. Just gotta keep going one foot in front of the next. 

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I've been struggling the past few days with extreme body heaviness and this very weak feeling....

 

Hugs everyone

TM

 

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TM, I'm sorry, I'm trying not to complain out loud but I will join you, as I'm in full body burning nerve pain. I'm worried I have neuralgia as I've a hideous stabbing pain in my scalp and ears. I either have a virus or benzo flu ffs. I've never felt so close to pegging it. About an hour sleep last night. Why do some people get hit so badly and others can more or less live life with some discomfort? I am at work and thank God I don't have to move, even though I'm forcing myself to walk a little each day. It's getting harder keeping this up here. 

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Marj....I know what your saying....heck do you ever get this feeling that your body is so heavy you can hardly move.....I'm so weak....I'm ready to call the neurologist ....he'll think I'm nuts....idk

But the pain in my teeth is killing me.....I'm twitching everywhere.....I should of never removed my breast implants all the antibotics I took just brought me down worse....I'm so sorry your dealing with the nerve pain....I know it's just aweful.....I'm so proud of you and your strength...you are a fighter.....stay strong

 

TM

 

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Do you have head pressure TM? or anyone else? I have lost hope this will go away. I just inadvertently saw something and I'm totally freaking out. The pressure is so bad it hurts the nerves in my head. I'm needing some reassurance, I just have had enough. I hate this whole thing!  Why do people post scary things that freak people out? 

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Marj and TM.....I`m the same!  Pain today through the roof (again) mine is neck, shoulders and lower back!  I`m doubting this now...surely we shouldn`t still be getting pain like this?

I `m learning to take some of the things posted with a pinch of salt Marj, we don't know anything about these folk and if they were nice people they wouldn`t scare us!!

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Marj and TM.....I`m the same!  Pain today through the roof (again) mine is neck, shoulders and lower back!  I`m doubting this now...surely we shouldn`t still be getting pain like this?

I `m learning to take some of the things posted with a pinch of salt Marj, we don't know anything about these folk and if they were nice people they wouldn`t scare us!!

 

 

I know NCT, but my brain goes into terror. It was a stupid news article someone had shared that came up on my news feed, which I usually ignore, as I can't bare to see people living life, even some people who are in this, seem to be able to have some normality.  This was a benzo person and it's set me off, doesn't take much . Do you get the head pressure? It's so debilitating with everything else. I've seriously had enough!

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Marj....it breaks my heart seeing others having a normal life, I`m happy for them but we deserve a normal life too!  I have had some head symptoms just lately, I`ve had a cold and think that may have made this worse.

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I’m sorry you have a cold too, all this just makes it worse, I have a virus I think, it feel like all my glands are swollen. I know what you mean, it is heartbreaking and of course we don’t begrudge people, but yes we too deserve some normality after all this time. It’s so hard just hanging on by a whisker. Hope you feel better soon ❤️

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I really don't get headbpressure but the pressure is in my mouth,teeth,jaw,and face....not any dental specialist can say why I think I fried my nerves in my mouth it all started when I stopped benzo for seven days....but my mouth and jaw squeezes all day by the end of the day my jaw chatters ...idk...but I'm so very sick of being so sick....I did an X-ray on my arm it showed nothing but it really hurts bad and if I turn it just so it's so painful it can take my breath away...

Never....do you ever get the heavy body feeling ...like its so heavy and weakness feeling....this is unbelievable .....

I'm hitting my four year mark soon...this sucks......

Nevercantell and Marj....thanks for being here today it's nice to know I'm not the only one suffering

 

TM

 

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Marj....I know exactly what you’re talking about, it set me off too. Big time.

 

I’m sorry for everyone who is struggling 

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Do any of you have health anxiety? Convince yourself you have cancer or some other horrible disease? Worry about having future medical problems? Scared of doctors and dentists?