Teva Clonazepam Discontinued Group

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I’m currently taking 3mg (a lot for me) which has crospovidone in it. I believe old TEva had povidone K-90 which was the good stuff.

 

Thanks for that.  I'd wager the change to crospovidone is why the newer formulation is so exhausting for me then.  If the new pills are as exhausting, then there is no way they are an option for me, and I guess I better get started on the change to Roche.  I'd like to try them first, but dont quite feel up to driving to Virginia.  Sigh.

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I’m currently taking 3mg (a lot for me) which has crospovidone in it. I believe old TEva had povidone K-90 which was the good stuff.

 

Thanks for that.  I'd wager the change to crospovidone is why the newer formulation is so exhausting for me then.  If the new pills are as exhausting, then there is no way they are an option for me, and I guess I better get started on the change to Roche.  I'd like to try them first, but dont quite feel up to driving to Virginia.  Sigh.

 

Only the dissolvable have crospovidone. All of the regular pills have povidone k90, even the new one.

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Hi everybody, I've been following this thread and feel sorry for what some are going thru. I had to reinstate 4 months ago due to a bad supplement reaction (L-theanine) and started to taper immediately. I'm taking Accord,the only one avail in my city. I had ended up my taper with actavis. Accord took me out of the bad withdrawal reaction but I really don't feel well when I take it. My big dilema and probably for most of us is who to blame. In my opinion we are monitoring ourselves too much and the psychosomatic issue comes into play for some. I was thinking to switch to actavis but I put it on hold. I'm starting liquid and don't want to change drug manufacturer and way of taking it at the same.time.

I called Teva and they told me that both 1 mg and 0.5 mg are made in Israel. Couldn't tell me where they got it from before.

I believe is true that poor quality control and components may cause some issues but  Accord and actavis have been on the market for a long time. If something were really bad with them it would have been reported already.

I encourage everybody to distract and be more positive. I know it's easy to say than done but let's be obsessive doing what in theory should work and less obsessive with this drugs.

Good luck!

Miguel

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Bigglesworth - Were you able to get the new TEVAs in .5 mg strength?  I was told they were only rolling out 1 mg at this time.  If 1 mg tablets, how do you dose 3-4X per day dry cutting? 

 

Micedana - Sorry you had to reinstate over a supplement?  I have been tempted to try a couple of supplements, NAC and ALA, due to my severe symptoms but am afraid to try anything new (I'm very sensitive now) but I'm getting desperate.  How long were you on the L-theanine b/f you reacted?  As far as psycho-somatic, I do have issues with that but I can tell you that even before I was on K daily and going through w/d, and this was like 2 or 3 years ago, I tried Accord and it felt like water to me.  I had previously been on Mylan.  Since then, no other brand has really worked or done well.  I don't believe that I have tried TEVA, the old version or if I did, it was many years ago.  Some of us really are just that sensitive and especially in WD, EVERY single change, at least for me, my body can feel. 

 

When I called the customer service, they told me they were replacing the Activas tablets with the new TEVA tablets, FYI.  This has been a few weeks ago.

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Hi momo!

Sorry you are sensitive to this evil drugs. I am too. I never had taking any pills at all before my ordeal started two years ago. But I learned that anything you take even food may change the way you feel or your body reacts.

I was on L- theanine for a week or so. It did a huge change at the very beginning. I'd just finished my 10 months taper and was three months out of the K when I took it. Then I learned it acts on your GABA receptors big time so I'm not surprise I had the reaction. I was not feeling well any way, but it was more my hypochondria after quitting the drug plus the "must pay" period after jumping that was playing with me. I learn my lesson and unless i'm dying I won't put anything in my mouth from pharma if I can avoid it. I even replaced my omega 3 supplements with regular sardines three times a week. You don't really know what you are taking, where the components are coming from etc etc.

To answer your question I would let my body do the job it suppose to be designed to and put all my efforts on getting well naturally. What I mean is to be obsessive doing the natural stuff as we are obsessive with this drugs. Hope this helps in your decisions.

Regards!

Miguel

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Bigglesworth - Were you able to get the new TEVAs in .5 mg strength?  I was told they were only rolling out 1 mg at this time.  If 1 mg tablets, how do you dose 3-4X per day dry cutting? 

 

Hi Momof7.  No I haven't actually picked up the new pills, but word is they are supposed to be the same as the 2016 reformulation that Teva made to the original formula.  I made a post about it in this thread a bit earlier.  That reformulation has never agreed with me, and causes extreme exhaustion. 

 

I saw someone mention the new 0.5mg pills should be available any day now on drugs.com forums, but haven't heard of anyone actually finding them yet.  If I was to use 1mg pills to dose 4x per day I would crush the pills, mix the powder with microcrystalline cellulose (as Bob7 describes elsewhere on this forum), and weigh them out into empty capsules that way.  But as of yet I have only ever used old 0.5mg pills and just dry cut them.  I have reacted to alcohol based tinctures while on klonopin in the past, so I am planning to always avoid using dlmt with vodka.  PG is a possibility, though I am not sold on it's safety, since I have 30 year chronic illness and my liver is stressed already.

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Only the dissolvable have crospovidone. All of the regular pills have povidone k90, even the new one.

 

Interesting, back to square one then, as to why I get such bad fatigue with the reformulation...

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I think the new Teva is poisonous. It's causing my brain to feel like it's being pulled apart. I keep having to take activated charcoal to pull it out of my body hours later. I think I have to switch to another brand!

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Anyone else who is having bad effects from the new Teva please call 888.838.2872, option 3 then option 4. Talk to the medical specialist and get it reported.

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Not sure when I will be able to try the new ones, still not available near me.  That is horrible that they are making you feel so sick Clara.  I'm at a point where I don't know what to say about this anymore.

 

I feel like I shouldn't comment much on this thread anymore until I try them.  I've been triggering my OCD, and I think some of my posts were confusing people.

 

I've been where you are many times   Hang in there, things will improve.  Is trying brand name Roche an option for you?  I know you have had the same problems with Accord/Solco that I've had.

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Not sure when I will be able to try the new ones, still not available near me.  That is horrible that they are making you feel so sick Clara.  I'm at a point where I don't know what to say about this anymore.

 

I feel like I shouldn't comment much on this thread anymore until I try them.  I've been triggering my OCD, and I think some of my posts were confusing people.

 

I've been where you are many times   Hang in there, things will improve.  Is trying brand name Roche an option for you?  I know you have had the same problems with Accord/Solco that I've had.

 

Your posts haven't been confusing! I like reading them. You analyze things as I do because you want to find answers. I know OCD is bad to have about things you can't control, though. The fact is that these Teva pills are different. Whether or not it will bother you is another factor. It might not. If you are super sensitive, you will probably notice. I have tried Roche before and hate it. It's the same ingredients as actavis which I also can't take under any circumstance. Accord is the only other one that didn't almost kill me when I tried it but it still wasn't right.

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Not sure when I will be able to try the new ones, still not available near me.  That is horrible that they are making you feel so sick Clara.  I'm at a point where I don't know what to say about this anymore.

 

I feel like I shouldn't comment much on this thread anymore until I try them.  I've been triggering my OCD, and I think some of my posts were confusing people.

 

I've been where you are many times   Hang in there, things will improve.  Is trying brand name Roche an option for you?  I know you have had the same problems with Accord/Solco that I've had.

 

Your posts haven't been confusing! I like reading them. You analyze things as I do because you want to find answers. I know OCD is bad to have about things you can't control, though. The fact is that these Teva pills are different. Whether or not it will bother you is another factor. It might not. If you are super sensitive, you will probably notice. I have tried Roche before and hate it. It's the same ingredients as actavis which I also can't take under any circumstance. Accord is the only other one that didn't almost kill me when I tried it but it still wasn't right.

 

It's so hard to keep fear from taking over, and to stay rational for me, when thinking about the current situation.  I've suffered OCD since I was a kid, but withdrawal from this drug makes it much worse.  I am super sensitive to drug brand/formula changes.  When I tried to switch to Solco it was like I wasn't taking anything at all.  I started having panic attacks, total insomnia and racing heart.  I was worse than I have been since starting this drug 12 years ago.  This was only about 6 weeks ago, so it's still fresh in my mind.  Now I'm terrified of trying any other pills.

 

If I had enough of what I'm currently using, I know for a fact I could taper off over the next 3 years without going through hell.  It might even be uneventful.  I dare not say easy. 

 

But I don't have enough, and my old pills run out this week.  So I have to pick from what appear to be only very bad options. 

 

Roche is the only one I havent tried that is available here, so I guess that's the road I have to go for now.  I just don't want to do this anymore....

 

Anyway, I hope you and everyone else reading has a decent night.  We deserve it.

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I’m down to my last 20 old Tevas and I’m really scared too that the new ones won’t work. I’m envisioning worst case, best case, and most likely scenario for the switch to new Tevas or something else (I’ve tried 4-5 generics and brand).

 

Still haven’t gotten new Tevas and now have to wait until late November for new script. I’ve asked multiple times on the drugs.com forums for feedback on the new Tevas and NO ONE has responded for like a week. I am totally confused as to what people’s reactions are to the new med and if anyone has any new insight on old vs new Tevas is love to hear it!

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I am not on k, but have followed story for a long time.  I am wondering where the other people are I thought would be responding too.    Did they not get their pills? 

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One other person and I have come to an agreement that the new pills are crap and potentially toxic, but not as bad as the other generics when it comes down to it.  I haven't heard from anyone else. I'm still doing very poorly on them and have to keep taking activated charcoal to get it out of my system. I'm scared to take it again tonight because it gets worse the longer it builds up in my system, not better.

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One other person and I have come to an agreement that the new pills are crap and potentially toxic, but not as bad as the other generics when it comes down to it.  I haven't heard from anyone else. I'm still doing very poorly on them and have to keep taking activated charcoal to get it out of my system. I'm scared to take it again tonight because it gets worse the longer it builds up in my system, not better.

 

I am sorry Clara.  I wish I had an idea , I have nothing.  I think of you a lot.  Are you and your husband still thinking about c/t?  Please be careful if you are, maybe being able to keep in touch with Sofa is a good idea, or Esperanza. 

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One other person and I have come to an agreement that the new pills are crap and potentially toxic, but not as bad as the other generics when it comes down to it.  I haven't heard from anyone else. I'm still doing very poorly on them and have to keep taking activated charcoal to get it out of my system. I'm scared to take it again tonight because it gets worse the longer it builds up in my system, not better.

 

I am sorry Clara.  I wish I had an idea , I have nothing.  I think of you a lot.  Are you and your husband still thinking about c/t?  Please be careful if you are, maybe being able to keep in touch with Sofa is a good idea, or Esperanza.

 

Thanks for thinking of me. No, I wouldn't survive a cold turkey or I would do it instantly. My nervous system would shut down. Keep in touch with who?

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One other person and I have come to an agreement that the new pills are crap and potentially toxic, but not as bad as the other generics when it comes down to it.  I haven't heard from anyone else. I'm still doing very poorly on them and have to keep taking activated charcoal to get it out of my system. I'm scared to take it again tonight because it gets worse the longer it builds up in my system, not better.

 

I am sorry Clara.  I wish I had an idea , I have nothing.  I think of you a lot.  Are you and your husband still thinking about c/t?  Please be careful if you are, maybe being able to keep in touch with Sofa is a good idea, or Esperanza.

 

Thanks for thinking of me. No, I wouldn't survive a cold turkey or I would do it instantly. My nervous system would shut down. Keep in touch with who?

 

Sofa is the lady that helps take care of Post Withdrawal Recovery and the Four Steps.  Esperanza is a good friend of mine, that struggled so with k, she rushed off.  She is still struggling but at least she is off.  It was making her sicker and sicker.  She is a wonderful person.  I am sure she would talk to you if you wanted to. 

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I’m down to my last 20 old Tevas and I’m really scared too that the new ones won’t work. I’m envisioning worst case, best case, and most likely scenario for the switch to new Tevas or something else (I’ve tried 4-5 generics and brand).

 

Still haven’t gotten new Tevas and now have to wait until late November for new script. I’ve asked multiple times on the drugs.com forums for feedback on the new Tevas and NO ONE has responded for like a week. I am totally confused as to what people’s reactions are to the new med and if anyone has any new insight on old vs new Tevas is love to hear it!

 

I've been watching other forums for reviews of the new pills too.  The silence is deafening, I don't get it.  After all the time people have waited, you would expect to see some reactions/feedback.  I won't be able to get them until November at the earliest now, as well.   

 

Maybe everyone is too sick to type.  Well done, Teva, well done.

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Clara-this is so disappointing and scary...we all thought the re-launch would save us but I guess not. At least 2 people on drugs.com forum (which is better TEva or Actavis?) have said the new TEva pills are NOT the same as the old ones, that they are inferior, but not specifying how they are inferior. One person had to go from 2mg to 3mg...this sucks and I haven’t even tried them

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Clara-this is so disappointing and scary...we all thought the re-launch would save us but I guess not. At least 2 people on drugs.com forum (which is better TEva or Actavis?) have said the new TEva pills are NOT the same as the old ones, that they are inferior, but not specifying how they are inferior. One person had to go from 2mg to 3mg...this sucks and I haven’t even tried them

 

Can you provide the link to where people are talking about it? I couldn't find it. I'm going through severe withdrawal from the old Teva like I'm in acute. I'm really sick. Can't say much because I feel like I'm going to die.

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Clara-this is so disappointing and scary...we all thought the re-launch would save us but I guess not. At least 2 people on drugs.com forum (which is better TEva or Actavis?) have said the new TEva pills are NOT the same as the old ones, that they are inferior, but not specifying how they are inferior. One person had to go from 2mg to 3mg...this sucks and I haven’t even tried them

 

Can you provide the link to where people are talking about it? I couldn't find it. I'm going through severe withdrawal from the old Teva like I'm in acute. I'm really sick. Can't say much because I feel like I'm going to die.

 

Very sorry Clara. 

 

Looks like this is the thread Trina mentioned.

 

https://www.drugs.com/answers/teva-actavis-clonazepam-3411247.html?page=4

 

For a company that supposedly has some of the best chemists in the world, they sure are making a mess of this. 

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Thanks Bigglesworth for posting the link as I’m not too tech savvy. When you go to the link Clara click ‘newest first’ in terms of posts, scroll through the first few and then click on ‘comments’ to read more comments

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Thanks Bigglesworth for posting the link as I’m not too tech savvy. When you go to the link Clara click ‘newest first’ in terms of posts, scroll through the first few and then click on ‘comments’ to read more comments

 

 

The ingredients are the same. This whole phenomenon makes no sense. I'm not the only one saying it, though. What is wrong with these damn things..... They're even softer. They crumble very easily. The old Teva was a harder pill. Maybe the first batch is bad and the next few batches will be better. That's the only hope here.

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I doubt it. The roches are crap and crumble easily. They have cut corners on sourcing of ingredients and place where it’s manufactured. What a joke. I got 15 good years out of these things. Clara, do you feel you need a dose increase, does the new TEva have decent sedative and anti anxiety properties?

 

I’ve relied on these damn things for so long and for me they were consistent, I just really want to know what it’s like. It was helpful that you said the new ones are bad, but prob better than the rest of the bad generics.

 

It kills me that clonazepam is a seizure med first and foremost—they are playing with peoples lives