[Fa...] Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Hello, No, it was not insomnia. I became unemployed at that time and drove myself so crazy. Was scared as a single parent. My head cinema was playing betrayed. Went to the doctor and he prescribed me alprazolam. I did not know the danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[...] Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Hello, No, it was not insomnia. I became unemployed at that time and drove myself so crazy. Was scared as a single parent. My head cinema was playing betrayed. Went to the doctor and he prescribed me alprazolam. I did not know the danger. Finding hope to cling to will carry you through and stabilize your hopeless thoughts. For some of us that is faith in a higher power who cares for you and wants you to trust that things will get better and you'll become a stronger person for it. I personally have been in impossible hopeless situations with these drugs and came out of it. Peace to you and Godspeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Qu...] Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I still miss something. I just understood you tapered clonazepam and then you went to a clinic. Why? I mean why a clinic and not an hospital. You've never taken high doses. Inpatient treatment usually happens at much higher dosage. Did you have an underling disorder like general anxiety or depression? Do you have it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 I still miss something. I just understood you tapered clonazepam and then you went to a clinic. Why? I mean why a clinic and not an hospital. You've never taken high doses. Inpatient treatment usually happens at much higher dosage. Did you have an underling disorder like general anxiety or depression? Do you have it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 Hello, at that time I was given 1.4 mg clonazepam and had to reduce 0.1mg every 3 days. That was too fast for me, I was just a pile of misery, restlessness, anxiety, pain everything and I didn't know what was going on, so then I went to the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 Yes I have anxiety or depression now. Anxiety for Clonazepam and Flurazepam and the Withdrawal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 Hello, yes, and I still drink beer. Only then I can sleep. My doctor (addiction specialist) knows it and I am slowly reducing it. I put myself in this situation. I don't know how, but it happened. Out of desperation. I have experienced so many symptoms, anxiety, restlessness, body aches, face like numb, tingling all over, eye spasms, depression, restless arms, vibrating body, derealization, feeling like I am going crazy, insomnia etc... I never had all that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 Englisch (US) I keep wondering how this is going to end. I read about people who lie in bed for two to three years. I can't understand all this and I can't forget it. Some have windows after years, some never. That scares me even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Pa...] Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 It sounds like what you're reading is causing you a lot of distress, I feel it might be a good idea to avoid these stories, have you read any of our Success Stories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 Hello Pamster, yes, that's because I myself have experienced so much with the stuff and experience and each time I failed. And when I then read the stories I could only cry. I do not know how to start and where it should end. I want to be the old one again. I blame myself so much for not having persevered. Now I am taking more without success. I am afraid for my daughter. I am sorry for that. I squeeze you, thank you love greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 I often wonder if it might be easier with diazepam. But is it? I'm getting lost in the thoughts myself right now. Constantly thinking about what I have experienced. Is it going to be that bad again. Flurazepam is not easy. If only I had known all this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Qu...] Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I often wonder if it might be easier with diazepam. But is it? I'm getting lost in the thoughts myself right now. Constantly thinking about what I have experienced. Is it going to be that bad again. Flurazepam is not easy. If only I had known all this before. There is no general answer for your question. Only you can say what is better for you after giving a try. You have to figure out a plan and act accordingly. There is no silver bullet. Even doing nothing is a choice. As long as you keep your dosage it means that you're holding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 Yes Quarantine, I know, but I do not know what else to do. It's like a hamster wheel with no way out. The reduction of Flurazepam was terrible, and it wasn't just sleep disturbances. I don't think you can explain it to anyone. I have lost my way and feel lonely. No one knows what it is like inside me. And I don't know how to explain it. Insomnia without agonizing symptoms, ok. But with 100 not bearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 Dear Quarantine, and also you can't increase the zolpidem forever. Why should that work? What is your plan? You seem to tolerate the medication well. I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 I don't take zolpidem or anything else with it. But you quarantine it all seems not to mind. I am very sensitive with medications. I do not know the solution, it scares me, not you. Take zolpidem in high dose. I find your story frightening that nothing helps. I don't want to end up like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Qu...] Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 It's full of frightening stories here. If the best thing you can do for yourself is holding don't waste your time reading frightening stories. No one will blame you for holding. If you don't feel like updosing, don't do it. No one can make a choice for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 Hello, I make the choice that it is not good to drink alcohol with the benzodiazepines. I thank that no one here does that. So that has to go first. Yes it increases the effect, that's probably why I started. I am ashamed, honestly. Flurazepam never really worked for me on its own. And with clonazepam I failed every time at 0.8mg. I know I'm not in a good place. But somehow I have to get out of it. And I don't think anyone can help. Kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Qu...] Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Hello, I make the choice that it is not good to drink alcohol with the benzodiazepines. I thank that no one here does that. So that has to go first. Yes it increases the effect, that's probably why I started. I am ashamed, honestly. Flurazepam never really worked for me on its own. And with clonazepam I failed every time at 0.8mg. I know I'm not in a good place. But somehow I have to get out of it. And I don't think anyone can help. Kind regards That's a sensible choice. It will be difficult initially then you will decide if you could start to taper or updosing before going to bed or taking the same amount of clonazepam but before bedtime or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 I know. But for me it is not logical to take one dose a day. Then the level is high and falls. I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Qu...] Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 It's logical and frequently advice to take long half life at bed time. Because of compounding effect. It's just the math behind the logic of switching to long term benzo. Every day in your plasmatic levels you have almost the dose of the day before and - going back - even some amount of what you took one week ago. Flurazepam has a metabolite that takes up to 200-240h. It could be detected in your blood, bepending on metabolism, even after 1 month. High & low level is more common with Xanax and short - intermediate benzo. Anyhow many people can't switch immediately to one dose only because have regular stressful moments in morning or in the afternoon or in the evening. There is also a "psychological gain" at least for many people in reducing the number of times they take pills. They feel less addicted even if dosage is the same. You may not be able to taper now but you can make some little adjustments which could make you feel just a little bit more in charge of your daytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 As already mentioned, flurazepam did not have a hypnotic effect on me. It made me calmer so that I could get rid of the clonazepam. In the beginning I could not sleep with Flurazepam. Eventually it worked during the day as well. Why I don't know. I shouldn't have taken it at all. At the moment, neither works anymore. That is the end of the story. Hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Qu...] Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 You may taper daily clonazepam while holding flurazepam and clonazepam evening dose and see how it goes. If you feel you're tapering too fast you may hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Iv...] Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I am approaching the .8125 mgs Clonazepam mark myself... Got there in early Oct. initially then had the worst month ever and failed miserably. But I am OK at .875 mgs today, so this time I will make sure I feel stable at .8175 and may have my husband hold any extra Clonazepam I have so I am not tempted to *updose* or *rescue dose* (I did that to deal with stress in October & early November, and it definitely set me back a bit.) I wanted to comment because you said that about .8 mgs of Klon is where you have problems. I do as well. Just slowing down and may the rest of 2021 to make the cut below to .75 mgs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Hello Quarantine, why did you actually have diazepam with the flurazepam? Was that to wean off the lormetazepam? Or to wean off the flurazepam? Kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fa...] Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 I am approaching the .8125 mgs Clonazepam mark myself... Got there in early Oct. initially then had the worst month ever and failed miserably. But I am OK at .875 mgs today, so this time I will make sure I feel stable at .8175 and may have my husband hold any extra Clonazepam I have so I am not tempted to *updose* or *rescue dose* (I did that to deal with stress in October & early November, and it definitely set me back a bit.) I wanted to comment because you said that about .8 mgs of Klon is where you have problems. I do as well. Just slowing down and may the rest of 2021 to make the cut below to .75 mgs. Hello, well then 0.8 mg seems to be a hard limit. But I'm afraid it doesn't get any easier below that. I don't know your symptoms, but for me Klonopin is hard. Very... Kind regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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