Baylissa

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That was 4 hours ago  You have no idea what your talking about and I don’t hide and post on different threads.  You are talking out your ass!  STFU you really are not correcting false anything as you are not a mod or admin.  I read the whole thing before responding in both threads.  But you didn’t  I am done goodnight.

 

Umm whoa! Rudeness and swearing is def not allowed on the site please....Emotions can run high in recovery, but we need to maintain a level of civility.

I will be posting this to the admins on the team - and now there may be a good chance of locking it - but now bc of your behavior. There is also a chance of putting you on pre moderation if you cannot control your words in the future.

[[Be...]]

That was 4 hours ago  You have no idea what your talking about and I don’t hide and post on different threads.  I read the whole thing before responding in both threads.  But you didn’t  I am done goodnight.

 

I edited out your profanity-laced attack against me because I reported it to the mods. JayTay0 just asked me if we could have a peace offering, but you just killed any chance of that with this post. And just beause you posted 4 hours ago doesn't mean I saw it, there are other things besides checking threads that I do. I'm glad you two have worked things out, but there's nothing to work out with you after what you posted above, unless you retract and remove this post. So if you are done, then so am I.

[[Me...]]

Jaytay tapered his benzo until March of 2020 and after they were off went on Zoloft and gabapentin and it helped them.  I am glad it worked for them.  Many others have tried after being off meds to add AD’s and it was not successful and then had to taper off the AD.  But to come on this site and tell others they need medication without knowing the whole story is not right either and that was what Jaytay did.  Which they promptly removed.  Remember opinions are like buttholes we all got one!

 

 

Agree with this ^^

100%

I have thought about going back on meds during some of my waves and wow...what if it made me worse? Then I guess I could blame Jay just like he blamed Baylissa

 

I just read his original post and it made me feel yuck.

[[tr...]]

Last warning....stop these toxic interactions please. No one else needs to get "the last word".

 

This issue is now done. Agree to disagree. None of this is helpful.

 

 

[[Me...]]

Last warning....stop these toxic interactions please. No one else needs to get "the last word".

 

This issue is now done. Agree to disagree. None of this is helpful.

 

Thanks Trina. I almost would like to request my initial post be deleted. The intention of this thread was not this.

[[Ju...]]

Last warning....stop these toxic interactions please. No one else needs to get "the last word".

 

This issue is now done. Agree to disagree. None of this is helpful.

 

Perhaps the entire thread should be taken down as none of it is helpful? I also see advice on taking antihistamines as well as gabapentin. If not advice then recommendations? I'm pretty certain that is against the rules. Trust me, Gabapentin does not need to be recommended and can come with a host of physical and mental problems in time. In fact, I have a progress log as I tapered off of it.  All research should be done. Not just on benzos.

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Except, again, I'm not telling you or anyone else to go on meds or what meds to go on. Just offering my experience and yes it is a proven fact of medicine that SSRI's are the first line of treatment for the OCD specific symptoms I was experiencing and I made the decision, with my prescriber(s) to go on them and other meds and they have helped those symptoms for me considerably alongijhy with OCD treatment/therapy. Yes Baylissa never expressly told me not to go on meds, I lost contact with her around the time I was really in acute hell of 24/7 intrusive thoughts/constant anxiety and was diagnosed inpatient with OCD, but throughout my time spent in her group I felt there was certainly an anti-med atmosphere where "polydrugging" was blamed for lack of recovery or "healing" in certain individuals. I was in so much distress that I made the decision to surrender to professional help without caring if it was "true" OCD or benzo related damage that could heal in time. I was in a dangerous situation and I'm lucky I got the help I needed. Make of that what you will I guess but I'm NOT telling you or anyone else here that they should take meds, it's an option that they can go over with their doctors should they choose to and if not that's obviously totally up to them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just out of interest did you have anxiety, OCD  type symptoms before benzos, withdrawal. I have suffered OCD type symptoms and intrusive thoughts as result being made to CT zopiclone. I tried SSRI's and they had negative effect on me , greatly increased the symptoms and made me feel lot worse. Not getting into the debate of whether or not we should take meds, just interested why they might work for one person but not another. This has scared the s**t out of me almost indicating I'm not going recover without meds, which I can't take due to paradoxical effects they had,  I did only take a low dose as had adverse effects from them, have read you need high doses to be effective,, I tried exposure therapy but again in my case didn't help. Glad they helped you, but seems we are all different.

[[Co...]]

BenzoLottie you need to read the other thread, it was settled.  Give it a rest!  And do not put us in a group my posts are all still there people can read my posts.  Jaytay did delete the posts he even says the reasons .  I never called him a troll you are out of control.

 

Hi Givemehope68,

 

I do not post this to 'prove you wrong' or embarrass you. I suspect that you have forgotten your words because what you strongly implied was not your intention. If I was reading your 'troll' comment now, I too would have inferred that you were referencing JayTay.

 

Yesterday Baylissa responded to a post on here from a member who is tapering meds and making false claims against her.  The member then went on to a bunch of old posts telling others to take meds and making false claims against her and others.  The posts have all been deleted by the member.  But all were recorded.  Baylissa has been doing this a long time and dealing with Trolls.  She is not cancelling her sessions.  This person is a active member of this site and has been reported to Admins and brought to the attention of all involved.  No worries!  Just keep going!

 

Let's put this down to crossed wires and misunderstandings. It happens all the time with relatively slow-paced text compared with verbal communications (where corrections more often occur in real time).

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[[le...]]

I'll have to hope they ease of their own accord,after 2 years of this really had enough. Didn't have any pre existing anxiety so just praying as brain heals I will improve. Glad they helped you anyway.

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Let’s talk about all the benzo coaches, while on this topic:  Here is just a few I am aware of and most are not healed!

 

David Powers

The healthy grind

Healing with Harriet

Copper Mountain Coaching

Jennifer Leigh

 

All have been members of BB at some point.  Let’s just put this all out here and see how this goes.

[[Co...]]

Let’s talk about all the benzo coaches, while on this topic:  Here is just a few I am aware of and most are not healed!

 

David Powers

The healthy grind

Healing with Harriet

Copper Mountain Coaching

Jennifer Leigh

 

All have been members of BB at some point.  Let’s just put this all out here and see how this goes.

 

I am uncertain of the point of your post. As per the new rules (which I am sure you have read about in the announcement I posted yesterday), we will not allow recommendations for any counsellor or therapist who operates without oversight from a regulatory authority or governing body.

 

At least one of the names in that list is completely unqualified and untrained in counselling. (Tacit) recommendations for unqualified 'counsellors' are certainly outside of what we will allow here.

[[pi...]]

Let’s talk about all the benzo coaches, while on this topic:  Here is just a few I am aware of and most are not healed!

 

David Powers

The healthy grind

Healing with Harriet

Copper Mountain Coaching

Jennifer Leigh

 

All have been members of BB at some point.  Let’s just put this all out here and see how this goes.

 

I have to ask why?  It's more important for people to focus on their own healing, not the healing of others. Additionally, it is off the original topic of the thread.

 

pianogirl

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My point is that none of these people are qualified but yet they are members of this site.  I have been approached by 3 of them personally and then reached out to BB and found they are unqualified and I am not making recommendations.  I want to know is there no real help?  I have searched high and low and find nothing.  Am I missing something?  Please tell me where I can find real qualified support?  Who and where because I need it.  I don’t have support or family.  I am alone and no one believes that any of this is valid.  So what are your recommendations. 

[[Co...]]

My point is that none of these people are qualified but yet they are members of this site.  I have been approached by 3 of them personally and then reached out to BB and found they are unqualified and I am not making recommendations.  I want to know is there no real help?  I have searched high and low and find nothing.  Am I missing something?  Please tell me where I can find real qualified support?  Who and where because I need it.

 

You can find qualified counsellors and therapists in any city. Heck, where I used to live (a few thousand people), there were even counsellors/therapists there.

[Guest [Gi...]]

I have a therapist, I have a psych and not one believes anything I tell them.  So what now?  At 20 months since you have been around a long time and seen it all.  What do you recommend?

[[Co...]]

I have a therapist, I have a psych and not one believes anything I tell them.  So what now?

 

Find a new one if you are dissatisfied.

[Guest [Gi...]]

So is any of this stuff real or do I just give in at this point and take more meds?  20 months is a long time how long do I wait?

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I had to search to find a doctor who agreed with me that the benzo was making me sick. It took a while for me to find this person but it was worth the effort. She was incredibly supportive and never dismissed anything I said.

[Guest [Gi...]]

So once again there is nothing anyone can truly recommend or do to help any one.  I am truly struggling with this  and need advice.  Please help me understand

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I wonder if it might be more productive to ask members for tips on how to convince a doctor that your problems are benzo withdrawal. If you're agitated and angry, we know that it is understandable and part of the benzo withdrawal syndrome, but other doctors might rush to another judgement. It shouldn't be like this but I believe that if you prepare in advance - almost like a sales pitch - addressing potential doubts before they occur, you will have a better chance of a good therapist believing you. Write the important things down or you might forget in the moment.

[Guest [Gi...]]

Thank you I have done all this and they still continue to say there is no way this is paws.  So I guess I wait until I get hospitalized when my body can’t take anymore and hope for the best.

[[Pa...]]

I have a therapist, I have a psych and not one believes anything I tell them.  So what now?  At 20 months since you have been around a long time and seen it all.  What do you recommend?

 

My opinion is to word things differently. I don’t believe that everything we go through is purely withdrawals. I think that the benzos do create some type of damage to the brain/body. I think coming off of the benzos creates new medical disorders from the damage they caused. I never had MCAS before being rapid tapered from benzos and the drugs they used to rapid taper me with. But I have it now. Mast cell can heal like benzo withdrawl. But I’m going to follow my doctors recommendations. I see a MCAS specialist next month to start treatment. I didn’t tell the doctor who diagnosed me that I was going through benzo withdrawals. I simply said “I noticed these symptoms that I’m having once I stopped taking benzos”. That simple rearrangement of words made a huge difference in what I said to follow. Your essentially  telling them it’s possibly related to withdrawals but not that you are in withdrawals. I have found it’s a lot easier to be believed when simple rephrasing in which they can understand more. This is just what happened to me, how I personally perceive what’s going on, and how I approached the situation with my doctors. Yours obviously will vary.

[Guest [Gi...]]

Thank you but I have had every test and nothing shows up.  I have worn a halter monitor for palps, been tested for Lyme, mcas, lupus, ms, cushings, crohns and much more.  I had mris mra, spinal tap, cortisol tests saliva and blood, my doc and neurologist say it is paws and give it time..  I had no preexisting condition except insomnia.  I sleep 5-6 hours now and so that’s better and so much more has gotten better but what I have is unbearable.  I had exhausted the tests at 18 months. So now at 20 months with same baseline of sx I am told to wait.

[[Be...]]

BenzoLottie you need to read the other thread, it was settled.  Give it a rest!  And do not put us in a group my posts are all still there people can read my posts.  Jaytay did delete the posts he even says the reasons .  I never called him a troll you are out of control.

 

Hi Givemehope68,

 

I do not post this to 'prove you wrong' or embarrass you. I suspect that you have forgotten your words because what you strongly implied was not your intention. If I was reading your 'troll' comment now, I too would have inferred that you were referencing JayTay.

 

Yesterday Baylissa responded to a post on here from a member who is tapering meds and making false claims against her.  The member then went on to a bunch of old posts telling others to take meds and making false claims against her and others.  The posts have all been deleted by the member.  But all were recorded.  Baylissa has been doing this a long time and dealing with Trolls.  She is not cancelling her sessions.  This person is a active member of this site and has been reported to Admins and brought to the attention of all involved.  No worries!  Just keep going!

 

Let's put this down to crossed wires and misunderstandings. It happens all the time with relatively slow-paced text compared with verbal communications (where corrections more often occur in real time).

 

 

Thank you, Colin. This is the post I was refering to.