[Sh...] Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I take Immitrex. It doesn't seem to interfere with my taper. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[St...] Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hi 2200, Thanks for your response. I am into my 8th month of withdrawal. When I first went off the clonazepam I was severely ill for about a month. I did go on the valium for 12 weeks because my doctor thought it might help the dizziness. I didn't know at that time I was kindling and this wasn't a good idea, I rue the day! Thank goodness when I went off the valium, that did nothing for the dizziness, I did not go back to the state I was in in March. It basically has been about the same for 5 months. Intense dizziness/disequilibrium, head pressure and inner vibration are my worst symptoms right now, but I still suffer from insomnia and some other symptoms. The worst of it is behind me at least. I have had migraines for almost my entire life. They have gotten worse in the last 10 years or so. I take 600 mg. of magnesium a day, in addition to some other supplements. I suffer from chronic migraines, sometimes 15 or more in a month. The imitrex works great unless I take too much of it, which is often the case. Then it can lead to more and more intense migraines. I'm having a procedure done next week in the hopes it will give me a break. I never had this type of dizziness with my migraines in the past. This is totally different than any dizziness I have ever had in my life. Its so frustrating that I went on valium to help the dizziness and it has only slowed down my recovery. I wish I had known better, since my doctor has no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [...] Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Gosh Stephanie,I feel so bad for you having such bad migraines,and for years too!Ive heard how bad they can be,so you must be really suffering with them!I had a friend who got one while we were on a plane and she was in terrible pain.I get little weird head and face pains off and on,but they dont last long,thankgoodness!I think most of them have been benzo withdrawal related,a tiny bit of sinus pain,and alittle menopause hormonal stuff.The dizziness your having if its benzo related,will gradually go away,but for me its taken a very long time.The last couple of months its been the lightest its ever been,like a 3 on a scale of 10.I learned the scale rating from Lapis on the dizzy post!I still get waves of high anxiety,jitters and dizziness,but not near what it was a few months ago.Take care Stephanie,and I hope you get a break from the darn migraines and dizziness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[St...] Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Thanks 2200! They haven't always been as intense as they are now. They were really bad in March when I went off the clonazepam and better for a few months and then I got put on the valium and went off the valium in september and they went crazy again. Hopefully since I am not trying any benzos ever again they will calm down. Congratulations on being down to a 3, my day is coming, I know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[de...] Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Sttill feeling little bit depressive, not getting fresh in the morning,bloating,observing some mood change in myself,today is 70th day from the day,I reduced clonezapam dosage from 1.25 to 1 mg. Holding this tapper for last 82 days,taking other meds also Fluvoxin 150 Venlor xr 150 Clonzapam 1 at night, Nootropil 800 After reducing dosage my symptoms are changing day by day,at present I feel emptiness in brain,fatigue,lack of interaction with my kids and wife,depressive,can some body guide me upto when I will have to face such symptoms, I m on meds for last 15 years.Also I am in need of article in simple language benzo withdrawal or tapper so that I can tell to my wife abt the complications of it. Thanks in advance to all Regds Deep215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Hi...] Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 http://www.rlcure.com/glutamate.html help i think im being poisoned by glutamate im so sick my mind is flipflopping getting worse im so kindled and trying to taper ativan so slow i have not been stable but am getting worse akathisia and terror im on gabapentin too. And methadone how can i get stable. Im a mess someone please help me understand is glutamate damage permanent it says it is but im in severe tolerance withdraw but going up makes it worse im about to lose it i dont have Windows anymore everything is slowly getting worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[nx...] Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Good read so msg like salts anything processed, man my diet has done a 360 since I started this whole mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[12...] Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Thank you for this wonderful article. It was just what I needed right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[hs...] Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It sure takes the brain a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time to completely heal from this mess. Im really hoping that the brain DOES HEAL ITSELF COMPLETELY.....I've reached the 4 year mark this november and still in a loooooooot of pain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ea...] Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Thank you SO much for going into such great detail; I've learned much more about the brain than I ever would have imagined. I'm wandering if you are still active in this forum?? I would love to pick Your brain (no pun intended ) or anyone else's who may be able to help me. I've been working on this since July (tapering off of 0.5 mg of Clonazepam 2X/day that i=3 been on continuously for 15 years); :'( I'm crying just hearing myself type that because I feel l I keep I've lost a huge part of my life, living with this sluggish, malfunctioning organ in my head. I have questions about the brain that I hope you or someone might be able to help me with. First of all because I am a survivor of childhood incest I know that a brain formed in such a chronic, stressful environment is different to begin with. I developed DID as a way to cope and wonder how all of that affected my brain. I realize that in an of itself is a HUGE question and one nobody may know the answer to. I guess my other questions belong in other forums so stop here . Thank you again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ja...] Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Parker thank you so much for this fantastic information. My question for you is are we healing while we are tapering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Jayne3 I think your brain is in shock during taper. I am in my 29 month of hellish pain. I am healing but it is brutally tasking. Everyone heals at different rates because of different factors. Stay on course in time you will heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[jr...] Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 best thread I have read since joining! Thanks parker and keep up the good work. I , too, am considering a book on my taper. I have kept an exact log and also a daily journal. But I have a ways to go b4 jumping. the large doses are fast and furious (lol) and the smaller doses are slow and careful. your supplement page was also very informative and I may give it a go and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Sa...] Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Parker, I love that explanation. I have been working on getting off my be so for over a year. I have been so discouraged (even on good days). I love your post. I like the idea of remeron to help with sleep. That is the most impossible symptom. I have been taking Ambien (not every night) to get through this. I don't think it is leaving my GABA and glutamate repair. I have been doing Neurofeedback and find it helpful. I usually sleep the nights I do this. Thank you for your post!!! I don't know how to do a signature but I took 2-3 mg of Klonapin every night for 8+ years. I have been working since Sept 2014 slowly slowly down after a few attempts to cold turkey or go too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[gr...] Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Parker, I love that explanation. I have been working on getting off my be so for over a year. I have been so discouraged (even on good days). I love your post. I like the idea of remeron to help with sleep. That is the most impossible symptom. I have been taking Ambien (not every night) to get through this. I don't think it is leaving my GABA and glutamate repair. I have been doing Neurofeedback and find it helpful. I usually sleep the nights I do this. Thank you for your post!!! I don't know how to do a signature but I took 2-3 mg of Klonapin every night for 8+ years. I have been working since Sept 2014 slowly slowly down after a few attempts to cold turkey or go too fast. U should NOT be taking ambien. It works on the same receptors as benzos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[...] Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Parker, I love that explanation. I have been working on getting off my be so for over a year. I have been so discouraged (even on good days). I love your post. I like the idea of remeron to help with sleep. That is the most impossible symptom. I have been taking Ambien (not every night) to get through this. I don't think it is leaving my GABA and glutamate repair. I have been doing Neurofeedback and find it helpful. I usually sleep the nights I do this. Thank you for your post!!! I don't know how to do a signature but I took 2-3 mg of Klonapin every night for 8+ years. I have been working since Sept 2014 slowly slowly down after a few attempts to cold turkey or go too fast. U should NOT be taking ambien. It works on the same receptors as benzos! I noticed what you had to say and was about to say the same as groovejuice did but he beat me to it. So I'll "here here" what he had to say and reiterate the same. Ambien is considered a non-benzodiazepine. In that it works on the same receptor as your everyday run of the mill benzodiazepines do. Healing does begin as we taper. Our bodies adjust and adapt to lower and lower concentrations as the receptors are less and less inundated with medicines (this is obviously not a clinical explantation, but rather an experiential one, being that I experienced it...and lived to tell, or did I, live that is, mooo-hahahha. No, I'm very much alive, well, at least the last time I checked I was.) Right now at 14 months out I've experimented with Belsomra (this is my third go of it, and you know what that say about the third time), and I am experiencing it's intentions, which is - sleep!, glorious sleeeep! Hoooot sausage and mustard! Oh, no, wait. That's from Oliver. Sorry (that scally-wag). The first two times were: (1) at 2 months out, and (2) at roughly 7 months out. It appears the physical structures (for me that is) have healed to a point where sleep is now possible. Whereas before no amount of physical exertion, much less emotional and mental exertion as that had long been over-taxed years beforehand, helped to promote sleep more or less then the benzodiazepines themselves did. I took 20mg four nites ago and slept, and it was a nice sleep. I took the nite before last off and ended-up not sleeping until around 8am to roughly 11:50am. Then last nite I took another 20mg and slept from 2am to 8am only to briefly wake and then gently fall back to sleep and eventually roll out of bed around 10 or so. It's said that Belsomra has no "ill-effects" whatsoever. Well, if we recall correctly, and I believe we do, the very same was said about Benzodiazepines, and we all know how that panned-out. I just don't want to experience similar or the same as what Monsieur Benzo brought my way. I figure if my brain/body can get some rest it will heal all the more better, and quicker, than if it didn't at all. Which is pretty much what has been happening for the last...6 years?!!! Capishe? peace & light eli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Le...] Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 This post is my rock. My ebb and flow is constant. There is a portion mentioned by Parker that I would love some more information on. ippocampus - This is the "memory" center of the brain. It ties in old memories to emotions. The same thing is happening here that is happening in the amygdala with GABA and Glutamate. So - voila. You get intrusive memories from ALL times in your life. It's wild and wicked and wooly. But it can't hurt you. And if you can learn to visualize this as what is happening - then you can learn to be objective and realize it's normal. And like the amygdala - it will come and go and frustrate you, but it will go away when the physiology is restored. Does the information above also equate to intrusive thoughts?? Any information would be a Godsend. Blessings to all of you, Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ge...] Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Thanks for the info in this post - and the reminders of it coming back up in the stream of posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Bl...] Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Someone had this link in they're profile and I'm trying to find it. Does anyone know where I can find this again please. I'd appreciate this a lot. The article was about your brain healing from benzos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Someone had this link in they're profile and I'm trying to find it. Does anyone know where I can find this again please. I'd appreciate this a lot. The article was about your brain healing from benzos. Hi, its right on top on the ...Withdrawal Support (during your taper) section...... the very first entry on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Hi...] Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I just ctd gabapentin im on day 5 and not doing good at all but i wanted off it. Im on 4mg of klonopin now they switched me in the hospital from 7.5mg of ativan its like im overmedicated but im still in withdrawal after ct and reinstatement so many times the terror and torment and akathisia feel permanent i am honestly suffering worse than ive ever seen anone on here. I feel like i need to go to detox again im trying to get into detox again because its too unmanageable. Is the reason why im getting worse and worse because my receptors have changed so the benzos just make me worse ? Is this common with reinstatement? I feel traumatized last ct i lasted 6 months and soe things got better but i feel like i have permanent brain syndrome and the akathisia is terror are getting worse and worse im lost in my on mind. Does this go away. I need hope but i also know detox is the only way off for me tapering is too unmanageable can someone ttm about this is the terror being caused by the benzos? Ot gabapentin wd i was having it before i cts gabapentin im lost. I need to understand whats happening if i go to detox is it better to stick with the ativan as aposed to klonopin because its shorter action it will be out of my system sooner? I cannot stay awake i know kpin has long Half-Life and is strongest binding i also have liver problems ans uses the same pathway as methadone. I need to know what to do will wistiril and clonidine help with the restlessness and akathisia after detox again. I wish i didnt switch to kpin cuz its one more thing thats complicating me i cant get stable. Im so so sleepy ativan bypasses liver metabolism thats why ive stuck with it for so long but would switching back after being on kpin for 5 days mess me up even more? I need to get off everything vor i cant heal but i dont feellike im can take any more oain. Am i in ggabapentin wd also? Why cant i stay awake but have akathisia. Scaneed guidance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ab...] Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Wonderful, inspired and brilliant perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[we...] Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Can someone tell me what kindling is?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[tr...] Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Here ya go: "Kindling due to substance withdrawal, refers to the neurological condition which results from repeated withdrawal episodes from sedative-hypnotic drugs such as alcohol or benzodiazepines. Each withdrawal leads to more severe withdrawal symptoms than the previous withdrawal syndrome." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindling_(sedative-hypnotic_withdrawal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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