PROGESTERONE AND BENZOS

[[re...]]

 

 

I am surgically postmenopausal...

 

I've been taking monthly estrogen shots but last week was switched to combipatch (estrogen/Prog)

 

I am 6.5 mo post jumping...

 

Is this going to cause me problems?

 

 

[[ih...]]

Not everyone has problems with supplementary progesterone in withdrawal. I am on 21 day cycle of bio-id progesterone which I have taken for the last few years & it does not appear to contribute to any withdrawal symptoms.

 

Here's hoping you will be fine too.

[[pr...]]

Not everyone has problems with supplementary progesterone in withdrawal. I am on 21 day cycle of bio-id progesterone which I have taken for the last few years & it does not appear to contribute to any withdrawal symptoms.

 

Here's hoping you will be fine too.

 

 

ihope,

 

do you ingest the progesterone or apply it topically? i actually have been still applying the prometrium on my legs 2 weeks out of the month. i am not sure how much gets absorbed but it doesn't seem to affect me lately at all. do you think i should apply it 21 days? does it get into the body at all? which bio-id prog are you on? is it prometrium?

[[ih...]]

Hi Pretty, I use prometrium caps vaginally. I suspect that you will not get a high rate of absorption from topical application but the only way to know is to test your hormone levels.

 

I need the progesterone to balance my estrogen HRT. IMO, unless you know your estrogen levels, it's a bit speculative to just supplement with progesterone, although at the minimal level you are using, it probably doesn't have much effect.

 

Interestingly, a number of studies have found that supplementary progesterone has no impact at all on benzo withdrawal symptoms which suggests that progesterone acts on GABA receptors in a very different way to benzos.

 

OTOH, hormones have such an integral influence on the functioning of organisms.  It's not surprising that BBs with dysregulated HPAs, consequent on benzo use, (as detailed by Perserverance), can be hyper sensitive to even small hormonal changes.

 

I do get noticeable PMS now that I am back on a monthly cycle.

 

 

[[pr...]]

Hi Pretty, I use prometrium caps vaginally. I suspect that you will not get a high rate of absorption from topical application but the only way to know is to test your hormone levels.

 

I need the progesterone to balance my estrogen HRT. IMO, unless you know your estrogen levels, it's a bit speculative to just supplement with progesterone, although at the minimal level you are using, it probably doesn't have much effect.

 

Interestingly, a number of studies have found that supplementary progesterone has no impact at all on benzo withdrawal symptoms which suggests that progesterone acts on GABA receptors in a very different way to benzos.

 

OTOH, hormones have such an integral influence on the functioning of organisms.  It's not surprising that BBs with dysregulated HPAs, consequent on benzo use, (as detailed by Perserverance), can be hyper sensitive to even small hormonal changes.

 

I do get noticeable PMS now that I am back on a monthly cycle.

 

 

well if that is true that a number of studies have found that supplementary progesterone has no impact at all on benzo withdrawal symptoms that is great new! but remember doublewave's thread about prog?

 

i really would like to be on the prometirum and ingest it either orally or vaginally and i am taking a very tiny amount of estradoil "vivelle dot". it's 0.025mg only once weekly. i just haven't changed anything up at all in my routine for years now. i just want to keep everything the same and since doing that i haven't had any setbacks since i was 44 months out when i stopped the melatonin abruptly. so yeah, i am on both. very tiny amounts and it seems fine. but maybe after about 5 years, i will change things up and maybe start taking prometrium orally or vaginally. i am really glad to hear that you found studies. can you send me some of those studies in a PM?

[[Se...]]

I see no one addressing the issue of "estrogen dominance" on here...

 

  Symptoms of Decreased Progesterone And Estrogen Dominance

 

"Decreased sex drive

Irregular or otherwise abnormal periods (most often, excessive vaginal bleeding)

Bloating (water retention)

Breast swelling and tenderness

Mood swings (most often irritability and depression)

Weight gain (particularly around the abdomen and hips)

Cold hands and feet

Headaches, especially premenstrually

If a woman begins to experience uncomfortable symptoms at this stage, it’s because her body can sense—and attempts to adjust to—that relative estrogen excess. Estrogen excess is also exacerbated by high insulin and stress hormones. Unfortunately, however, there’s a great deal of overlap in the symptoms of various hormone imbalances, and it’s not uncommon for a woman experiencing symptoms of estrogen or stress hormone excess to be given a prescription for more estrogen or even antidepressants. Not surprisingly, her mild symptoms can worsen as a result."

Christiane Northrup, M.D.

 

 

men can have estrogen dominance, too;

 

"Although it’s called the female hormone, a man’s body also makes estrogen, just at lower levels. Men may begin to experience unusual symptoms if their estrogen levels increase significantly. Symptoms of high estrogen in men include:

 

Infertility. Estrogen is partly responsible for creating healthy sperm. When estrogen levels are high, sperm levels in semen may fall. This can lead to fertility issues.

Gynecomastia. Estrogen may stimulate breast tissue growth. Men with too much estrogen may start developing larger breasts.

Erectile dysfunction. A balance of both testosterone and estrogen is important for healthy sexual growth and development. Sexual function may be impacted when these hormones become imbalanced. Men with high levels of estrogen may have difficulty getting or maintaining an erection."

Healthline

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We have gaba receptors in the brain-for a reason...to me, it's not at all logical to attempt to delete all sources of gaba agonists...how about a little balance?  Isn't that why we've chosen to stop benzos?

 

 

could just be that low progesterone is what caused the initial anxiety that preceded the benzo nightmare;

 

"Symptoms of progesterone loss frequently bring patients into the office, these include: anxiety,

depression, irritability, mood swings, insomnia, pain and inflammation, osteoporosis, decreased HDL

cholesterol, and excessive menstruation. What causes progesterone loss? Progesterone production can

be impaired by low levels of luteinizing hormone (LH) and increased prolactin levels. Therefore it is wise

to check prolactin levels if you suspect progesterone loss. Stress can cause low progesterone. We live

in a very stressful society, and it is amazing how many women have low progesterone levels because of

this. Antidepressants themselves can lower progesterone. So if a patient is taking an antidepressant

drug that may be a reason why their progesterone level is low even if there are just 25 years of age

          "Symptoms of progesterone loss frequently bring patients into the office, these include: anxiety,

depression, irritability, mood swings, insomnia, pain and inflammation, osteoporosis, decreased HDL

cholesterol, and excessive menstruation. What causes progesterone loss? Progesterone production can

be impaired by low levels of luteinizing hormone (LH) and increased prolactin levels. Therefore it is wise

to check prolactin levels if you suspect progesterone loss. Stress can cause low progesterone. We live

in a very stressful society, and it is amazing how many women have low progesterone levels because of

this. Antidepressants themselves can lower progesterone. So if a patient is taking an antidepressant

drug that may be a reason why their progesterone level is low even if there are just 25 years of age"

Chapter 41

A Comprehensive Look at Hormones

and the Effects of Hormone Replacement

Pamela Smith, M.D., MPH

Director of the Fellowship in Anti-Aging and Functional Medicine

 

just sayin,

Serenty Now!

 

ps  Google "what are xenoestrogens" might be the origin of much of the anxiety epidemic. 

 

               

 

[[Mo...]]

I apologise in advance for essentially cross-posting here and in the menopause support group, but I really need some advice on whether starting progesterone (in the form of Prometrium) is a bad idea.

 

Short story: I know that I need a progestogen, but I don't do well on the progestins, and my doctor has suggested Prometrium.

 

They know that I'm trying to get off benzos, and think it might actually help the process.

 

I just don't want to make things worse, and would like to hear from people who have started progesterone during their taper and done well.

[[pr...]]

Interestingly, a number of studies have found that supplementary progesterone has no impact at all on benzo withdrawal symptoms which suggests that progesterone acts on GABA receptors in a very different way to benzos.

 

ihope,

 

i took a 200mg prometrium today instead of applying it to my legs and i felt like i had taken a benzo. in some ways i was in a pretty good window or so i thought and then i was stumbling all over the place and really spaced out. i guess i will have to keep doing it the way i was for now. i can't believe it though. very bummed out that i am still unable to ingest it. still wondering what the difference is between taking it 21 days out of the month verses 12 days out of the month? is 21 days more geared for women who are menopausal?

 

 

MoretonBay1,

 

i'm still having issues taking the prometrium and i am 53 months but i am a more severe cold turkey case. i am going to stick with just applying it on my legs for now as it seems to be fine when i do it that way.

 

maybe ihope or someone else can help you with your questions.

 

[[la...]]

Not everyone has problems with supplementary progesterone in withdrawal. I am on 21 day cycle of bio-id progesterone which I have taken for the last few years & it does not appear to contribute to any withdrawal symptoms.

 

Here's hoping you will be fine too.

 

Hi  i am about see a doctor that specialises in bio identical hrt since my menapause symptoms are making my BW do much worse. I'm desperate. I know I am low in estrogen but I'm sure she will try to give me a balanced hrt with progesterone. Im alarmed to read that it might be detrimental in my WD. Anyone in menapause and benzo WD have success with bio identical hrt with progesterone? Thanks

[[Be...]]

I was in peri-menopause and also having tolerance withdrawal symptoms and my doc gave me progesterone cream to use.  I nearly went unconscious and passed out at work the next day.  It didn't work for me.

[[pr...]]

i had been applying progesterone to my legs and not injesting it which seemed fine for me but the other night i put a good amount in my mouth and injested it and had the more horrific wave of all time and hallucinated all night -- i still can't take it.

will go back to only applying it on my legs 2 weeks out of the month.

[[re...]]

 

 

Ugh.

 

I'm

So

Confused

 

I am almost 9 mo out and still have a lot of symptoms. .  Should I take bioid progesterone or not!

 

PLEASE SOMEONE ADVISE

[[pr...]]

 

 

Ugh.

 

I'm

So

Confused

 

I am almost 9 mo out and still have a lot of symptoms. .  Should I take bioid progesterone or not!

 

PLEASE SOMEONE ADVISE

 

 

try it out and if you think it ramps or revs up symptoms than you'll know. that's why i did over and over again. i can't take it yet. wish i could, but i can't just yet.

[[Su...]]

Oh my gosh!! I just started my taper with benzos.  I had a hysterectomy 11 weeks ago.  So of course I'm taking progesterone, testosterone and estradiol.. I don't produce this stuff on my own anymore.  I take my progesterone at night with my last benzo.  I began thinking it was blocking the Xanax because it didn't make me sleepy.  I've been taking these hormones for 6 weeks now.  Can I just stop the progesterone?  I know I'm not producing it. It seems to actual help WD symptoms.  I really don't understand the language of the information you posted.  I'm not sure if it's good or bad or you WD like benzos.  I guess I could stop the progesterone. It's only been six weeks but then again is that safe?  Idk.. Ugh my hysterectomy was due to cysts and endometriosis.  I've had that way before benzo use.  I just finally agreed to the hysterectomy because I had a prolapse and the cysts were becoming unbearable as well.  This article causes me anxiety.  The progesterone does not, as of yet anyways. Taking 200mg at night.

 

My list of drugs would be to long.

Current tapper Xanax 6mg

First cut Sept. 22nd. To 5.75 mg 's

 

Yes it's all prescribed.  I took it as indicated. Once every 6-8 hours.

[[pr...]]

Oh my gosh!! I just started my taper with benzos.  I had a hysterectomy 11 weeks ago.  So of course I'm taking progesterone, testosterone and estradiol.. I don't produce this stuff on my own anymore.  I take my progesterone at night with my last benzo.  I began thinking it was blocking the Xanax because it didn't make me sleepy.  I've been taking these hormones for 6 weeks now.  Can I just stop the progesterone?  I know I'm not producing it. It seems to actual help WD symptoms.  I really don't understand the language of the information you posted.  I'm not sure if it's good or bad or you WD like benzos.  I guess I could stop the progesterone. It's only been six weeks but then again is that safe?  Idk.. Ugh my hysterectomy was due to cysts and endometriosis.  I've had that way before benzo use.  I just finally agreed to the hysterectomy because I had a prolapse and the cysts were becoming unbearable as well.  This article causes me anxiety.  The progesterone does not, as of yet anyways. Taking 200mg at night.

 

My list of drugs would be to long.

Current tapper Xanax 6mg

First cut Sept. 22nd. To 5.75 mg 's

 

Yes it's all prescribed.  I took it as indicated. Once every 6-8 hours.

 

 

suppykat,

 

it's been known around this forum that progesterone is cross tolerant with benzos. i will post it here but it's a good idea to re-read the very beginning of this thread by Perseverance about it and you can read and do research then make the decision yourself. i know it's a hard decision as i have struggled with this all throughout my withdrawal/healing.

 

I wanted to post this information for anyone thinking about Progesterone therapy.  I am not on the forum much anymore, but wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of this information to avoid any pitfalls in their recovery by taking some form of progesterone, which is cross tolerant to benzos:

 

The metabolites of progesterone, allopregnolone and pregnolone, act on the GABA receptors the same way that benzos do, thus it can have the same effect as a benzo dosage increase.  Here are a few articles that explain how they act in the same way as benzos on the GABAA receptor:

 

The steroids most studied are allopregnanolone (ALLO), tetrahydrodesoxycorticosterone (THDOC), pregnenolone sulfate (PS) dihydroepiandrosteronesulfate (DHEAS), and estradiol (E2). ALLO and THDOC are called gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) steroids as they are positive modulators of the GABAA receptor in a similar way as benzodiazepines, barbiturates, and alcohol.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16362406

 

The positive modulators of the GABA(A) receptor include allopregnanolone and pregnanolone, both neuroactive metabolites of progesterone, as well as benzodiazepines, barbiturates, and alcohol.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19272715

 

Previous studies have determined that allopregnanolone enhances the activity of GABA, the main inhibitory neurotransmitter in the central nervous system, at its receptors throughout the brain. This mechanism, Toufexis said, likely accounts for progesterone's blunting effect on the brain's stress system.

 

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/02/09/7697.aspx?page=2

 

So you can see from that why progesterone is categorized as being cross tolerant to benzos, because it modulates the GABAA receptor in the same manner.

 

Neuroactive steroids, e.g., progesterone and its active metabolite allopregnanolone, are positive modulators of the GABAA receptor and are cross tolerant with benzodiazepines.[27] The active metabolite of progesterone has been found to enhance the binding of benzodiazepines to the benzodiazepine binding sites on the GABAA receptor.[28] The cross-tolerance between GABAA receptor positive modulators occurs because of the similar mechanism of action and the subunit changes that occur from chronic use from one or more of these compounds in expressed receptor isoforms. Abrupt withdrawal from any of these compounds, e.g., barbiturates, benzodiazepines, alcohol, corticosteroids, neuroactive steroids, and nonbenzodiazepines, precipitate similar withdrawal effects characterized by central nervous system hyper-excitability, resulting in symptoms such as increased seizure susceptibility and anxiety.

 

 

in my research so far it seems that all the horomnes (maybe estradiol is the exemption/?) and not sure about that -- all bind to the GABA receptor's in a similar way that benzo's do. if you do decide to get off the progesterone, i would be a good idea to taper from it. you can also wait until you're more healed from the benzo withdrawal and then go back to the other hormones. it's a very difficult decision, i know. benzo's seem to get in the fucking way of everything, don't they?

 

 

 

[[re...]]

 

 

My opinion is do one at a time.

 

A hysterectomy is very stressful on your body.

Benzo withdraw is too.

 

Add progesterone withdraw, you may crash.

 

I'm not telling you what to do.  Just my opinion.

 

I had a hysterectomy in 2013.  Wasn't put in progesterone but have been within the past 10 months

Becxause all my hormones crashed post jump 10 mo ago

I'm thinking about not taking it anymore because I think I'm reacting negatively to it.

[[Pe...]]

Want to weigh in on this. Bioidentical progesterone is used for women who are menopausal and perimenopausal. Bioidentical means it is formatted after what the body produces. Being in that phase of life myself for certain ended up on benzos because of the lack of progesterone in my brain ...choosing to supplement with a bioidentical hormone rather than going on  another psychiatric drug 2 offset benzo withdrawal symptoms I would choose bioidentical hormone therapy , hands down. Millions of women use it safely and non  addictively as well I have discussed the science with a pharmacist a doctor and a naturopath. I did understand that there was some cross Gaba interaction yet again it is a natural hormone that your body produces and in menopause you are lacking it and some people's brains do not react well to a lack of progesterone. So I choose to supplement with this and it is very helpful.

[[Es...]]

I wanted to post this information for anyone thinking about Progesterone therapy.  I am not on the forum much anymore, but wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of this information to avoid any pitfalls in their recovery by taking some form of progesterone, which is cross tolerant to benzos:

 

The metabolites of progesterone, allopregnolone and pregnolone, act on the GABA receptors the same way that benzos do, thus it can have the same effect as a benzo dosage increase.  Here are a few articles that explain how they act in the same way as benzos on the GABAA receptor:

 

The steroids most studied are allopregnanolone (ALLO), tetrahydrodesoxycorticosterone (THDOC), pregnenolone sulfate (PS) dihydroepiandrosteronesulfate (DHEAS), and estradiol (E2). ALLO and THDOC are called gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) steroids as they are positive modulators of the GABAA receptor in a similar way as benzodiazepines, barbiturates, and alcohol.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16362406

 

The positive modulators of the GABA(A) receptor include allopregnanolone and pregnanolone, both neuroactive metabolites of progesterone, as well as benzodiazepines, barbiturates, and alcohol.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19272715

 

Previous studies have determined that allopregnanolone enhances the activity of GABA, the main inhibitory neurotransmitter in the central nervous system, at its receptors throughout the brain. This mechanism, Toufexis said, likely accounts for progesterone's blunting effect on the brain's stress system.

 

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/02/09/7697.aspx?page=2

 

So you can see from that why progesterone is categorized as being cross tolerant to benzos, because it modulates the GABAA receptor in the same manner.

 

Neuroactive steroids, e.g., progesterone and its active metabolite allopregnanolone, are positive modulators of the GABAA receptor and are cross tolerant with benzodiazepines.[27] The active metabolite of progesterone has been found to enhance the binding of benzodiazepines to the benzodiazepine binding sites on the GABAA receptor.[28] The cross-tolerance between GABAA receptor positive modulators occurs because of the similar mechanism of action and the subunit changes that occur from chronic use from one or more of these compounds in expressed receptor isoforms. Abrupt withdrawal from any of these compounds, e.g., barbiturates, benzodiazepines, alcohol, corticosteroids, neuroactive steroids, and nonbenzodiazepines, precipitate similar withdrawal effects characterized by central nervous system hyper-excitability, resulting in symptoms such as increased seizure susceptibility and anxiety.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_dependence

 

 

Another thing it has in common with benzos is its effects on the corticotropin-releasing factor (CRF), also called the corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH).

(NOTE: You can read more about the CRF/CRH involvement on this thread: http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=44373.0 )

 

The scientists found evidence that the progesterone metabolite allopregnanolone reduces the brain's response to corticotropin-releasing factor (CRF), a peptide hormone that plays an important role in the stress response in animals.

 

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/02/09/7697.aspx

 

 

Plus it has its own withdrawal syndrome.

 

http://edrv.endojournals.org/content/24/4/523.full

 

Are you an endocrinologist? There’s a lot of stuff that affects GABA and has nothing to do with benzos.

[[no...]]

I wanted to post this information for anyone thinking about Progesterone therapy.  I am not on the forum much anymore, but wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of this information to avoid any pitfalls in their recovery by taking some form of progesterone, which is cross tolerant to benzos:

 

The metabolites of progesterone, allopregnolone and pregnolone, act on the GABA receptors the same way that benzos do, thus it can have the same effect as a benzo dosage increase.  Here are a few articles that explain how they act in the same way as benzos on the GABAA receptor:

 

The steroids most studied are allopregnanolone (ALLO), tetrahydrodesoxycorticosterone (THDOC), pregnenolone sulfate (PS) dihydroepiandrosteronesulfate (DHEAS), and estradiol (E2). ALLO and THDOC are called gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) steroids as they are positive modulators of the GABAA receptor in a similar way as benzodiazepines, barbiturates, and alcohol.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16362406

 

The positive modulators of the GABA(A) receptor include allopregnanolone and pregnanolone, both neuroactive metabolites of progesterone, as well as benzodiazepines, barbiturates, and alcohol.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19272715

 

Previous studies have determined that allopregnanolone enhances the activity of GABA, the main inhibitory neurotransmitter in the central nervous system, at its receptors throughout the brain. This mechanism, Toufexis said, likely accounts for progesterone's blunting effect on the brain's stress system.

 

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/02/09/7697.aspx?page=2

 

So you can see from that why progesterone is categorized as being cross tolerant to benzos, because it modulates the GABAA receptor in the same manner.

 

Neuroactive steroids, e.g., progesterone and its active metabolite allopregnanolone, are positive modulators of the GABAA receptor and are cross tolerant with benzodiazepines.[27] The active metabolite of progesterone has been found to enhance the binding of benzodiazepines to the benzodiazepine binding sites on the GABAA receptor.[28] The cross-tolerance between GABAA receptor positive modulators occurs because of the similar mechanism of action and the subunit changes that occur from chronic use from one or more of these compounds in expressed receptor isoforms. Abrupt withdrawal from any of these compounds, e.g., barbiturates, benzodiazepines, alcohol, corticosteroids, neuroactive steroids, and nonbenzodiazepines, precipitate similar withdrawal effects characterized by central nervous system hyper-excitability, resulting in symptoms such as increased seizure susceptibility and anxiety.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_dependence

 

 

Another thing it has in common with benzos is its effects on the corticotropin-releasing factor (CRF), also called the corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH).

(NOTE: You can read more about the CRF/CRH involvement on this thread: http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=44373.0 )

 

The scientists found evidence that the progesterone metabolite allopregnanolone reduces the brain's response to corticotropin-releasing factor (CRF), a peptide hormone that plays an important role in the stress response in animals.

 

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/02/09/7697.aspx

 

 

Plus it has its own withdrawal syndrome.

 

http://edrv.endojournals.org/content/24/4/523.full

 

so in the light of this ...research.... does this mean i should wean off my progesterone? i take 300mg nightly along with an estradiol patch 2x weekly as i am post surgical total hysterectomy post menopausal at age 46. without the hormones, i have horrid hot flashes and moods and other physical and sexual side effects which make life less livable...

 

 

[[Ni...]]

Would taking progesterone help with benzo withdrawal during a taper?

[[tr...]]

I was in tolerance /WD and didn't know it at the time - just knew that I was having problems with anxiety. A holistic NP ran labs and saw my progesterone ratio was off in comparison to my estrogen (prob due to the benzos..). Anyway, she prescribed bioidentical of progesterone for me. I took it twice and each time in woke me out of a dead sleep feeling like I was having a heart attack! I was racy for hours!! Anyway, progesterone can be an antagonist and stimulate your amygdala apparently (therefore the fight or flight I experienced). Jocelyn on BenzoBrains speaks to this. i found a scholarly article on it too...( If I can find it I'll post it..).

Holisitc NP's have it right in regards to functional medicine and their therapies work...if your not using benzos or are recovering from benzos bc our systems are re-regualting. I have so much to share with her next time I see her. I've learned a lot this past month - I may feel horrendous - but I can educate/ inform others:)

[[jo...]]

Sorry to raidI put the words HARM in capitals.

I'm cutting to 21mgs valium tonight.

I've been on val ages, and hrt since 2013, yes progesterone.

I take 200mg oral.

I want to cold turkey the prog as it is Prometrium and cannot be tapered and in my country the cream is not licensed so I cannot get it.

Many women come off progesterone at bigger doses and are ok, the only difference is that they have not taken or been addicted to benzos like me.

That is what scares me about seizures etc, but I am fed up of applying gel every day, waiting till my gut is empty to take the capsules, my gut takes hours and hours to empty, fed up of the lot.

Don't anyone follow me and cold Turkey progesterone as this forum shows women having bad experiences, I am hoping I will be ok, cos I want off all pHARMecuticals, 54 year old women are not meant to have as many hormones as younger ones, my flushes are bearable, nothing that a rinse down with cool water won't solve.

I've been having all sorts of dark thoughts about cold turkeying the 200mg Prometrium I am on, like seizing waking up in a pool of my own blood and other nasty, and I am fed up.

I want to be pharmaceutical free.

I want to he healthy without relying on the pharmacy, I know that I am on BHRT but its still relying on the pharmacy. I wanna be free.

Gonna start vodka titration when I get to 20mgs val.

 

[[jo...]]

Would taking progesterone help with benzo withdrawal during a taper?

I am so sorry to hear that these extra substances that you took to help you set you back.

[[Ni...]]

Would taking progesterone help with benzo withdrawal during a taper?

I am so sorry to hear that these extra substances that you took to help you set you back.

Thank you, I've just read that bio identical progesterone could help with benzo withdrawal. Is this true?

[[ho...]]

I am on bio’s too of progesterone and estrogen and I am now so confused.  They don’t appear to bother me at all, but maybe they are.  I certainly don’t want to wean off something and have more w/d.....but if they aren’t hurting me, the I would rather just stay on them.  I honestly don’t know what to do.

 

Marie