Everyone think psyhiatrists are all bad ??

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Professional requirementsTypically the requirements to become a psychiatrist are substantial but differ from country to country.[9][11]

 

US and CanadaIn the U.S. and Canada one must first complete their Bachelor's degree, or in Quebec complete a premedical course of study in Cégep.[11] Students may choose any major, however they must enroll in specific courses, usually outlined in a pre-medical program.[11] One must then apply to and attend 4 years of medical school in order to earn their M.D. or D.O. and to complete their medical education.[11] Following this, the individual must practice as a psychiatric resident for another four years (five years in Canada). This extended period allows comprehensive training that includes diagnosis, psychopharmacology, medical care issues, and psychotherapies. All accredited psychiatry residencies in the United States require proficiency in cbt (cognitive-behavioral), brief, psychodynamic, and supportive psychotherapies. Psychiatry residents are often required to complete at least four post-graduate months of internal medicine or pediatrics and two months of neurology during their first year.[11] After completing their training, psychiatrists take written and then oral board examinations.[11] The total amount of time required to complete post-baccalaureate work in the field of psychiatry in the United States is typically 12 years of training.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist

 

Some may have forgotten what they learned.

 

 

 

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Perhaps the pay-offs have made them forgot! lol. Honestly I think they since they are surrounded by these drugs all the time, they have become desensitized to them..."oh its just an antidepressant." or "its just an antipsychotic, plenty of people do fine on them." HA. Although I did read that they finally put Antidepressant discontinuation syndrome in the DSM with some diagnostic criteria. The bad news is that they give 3 months before they say whether its a return of your old disorder or not    Also I think because psychiatry is still in its infancy, there arent that many classes of drugs for anxiety. You have Benzo's, antidepressants, and Buspar. Oh and Beta-blockers unless your bp is too low for it like me. So what are they're options you know?

 

I actually have an appointment with a "supposed" good psychiatrist in August, first meeting with him. Just going to go hear what he has to say, what he thinks about benzo withdrawl. I actually tried looking up if there were any reported payouts from drug companies for him but could not find his name in the database. We'll see.

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The doctor who first prescribed my benzos and then said, "just quit taking them" when I complained of how they made me feel was a GP.

 

After my trip to the ER, I saw many GP's, internists and the like, and only the psychiatrist was willing to listen to me and help me taper.

 

Like someone else said, there is always good and bad in everything.

 

Let's not knock the whole profession because of some bad experiences.

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My mother likely died prematurely due to incompetent psychiatrists who over prescribed medications for anxiety and depression.  Several doctors came to view her as a perennial patient after their cocktail of meds not only did not work but made things worse for her health.  So many of the medications prescribed are unknown in terms of long term health consequences.  It's a crap shoot whether a particular medication will help in the short term, but an even bigger guess as to what the long term impact will be.  This was my experience with valium.  Initially it "helped' me sleep and "relax".  Yet within months came the unpleasant s/x of cog fog, memory loss, less effect with sleep and in fact less than ideal sleep since studies seem to indicate that REM sleep is not what you get with benzos.  I believe there is a role for psychiatry in extreme cases of self harm or psychosis, shizophrenia, multiple personality.  However, the mass marketing of medications to the greater public is dangerous, in my view.  Even worse is how thousands of young kids are getting addicted to medications for attention deficit or some other problem that might best be addressed with cognitive therapy or some other approach. Better yet, actually spending time with your kid and parenting them!

 

Vertigo

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I believe there is a role for psychiatry in extreme cases of self harm or psychosis, shizophrenia, multiple personality.  However, the mass marketing of medications to the greater public is dangerous, in my view

 

True,

 

I took Multiple Personality out. I do not believe there is such a thing.

It's not known, nor probably will never be.

What is it, they call it now? DID I believe.

 

Who knows what kind of diagnoses (Plural) are out there!

 

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amano, I just read your post about giving out medical advice and I think you just did that.  I also agree that psychiatry plays a big role in helping those with schizoprehnia, true bipolars, etc.  I also agree that we need to remind members that they definately should seek out a doctor's help to rule out other possible causes of their symptoms.

 

Patty  xo

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Where did i give advice patty?

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I actually tried looking up if there were any reported payouts from drug companies for him but could not find his name in the database.

 

 

Here is one data base I know of to see if your doc is receiving money from Pharmaceutical Companys:

 

http://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/

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Holy cow! Perseverence, My X Doctor's name was on the list.

 

Thanx!

 

OOPS! I typed in the wrong initial, she is not on the list, sorry, Doctor.

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In response to the OP, yes i think they're all bad.  Will never have anything to with psychiatry again.

 

I WILL NEVER SEE A PSYHICATRIST AGAIN.. hope you are well, Mishi

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My shrinks name is not on the list..she doesnt even take insurance..    I know there are no blood tests..yet they all say its a comparison of  symptoms that one is having..       

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That's exactly right Meljo - if you go to a psychiatrist and complain of anxiety you are probably going to get a drug for anxiety.  That's what they do.  When benzos are used for very short periods in extreme cases of panic/anxiety the instances of difficult withdrawal are greatly reduced.  Unfortunately, as Draftsman said, we at BB are in the minority so no one pays any attention to our difficulties - not a large enough "sample."  Billwill

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not a large enough "sample."

 

But where there is a sample, there is a margin of error 

 

So exactly how many people are out there struggling with withdrawal, and we don't know it?

 

I would say more than we think.

 

 

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So exactly how many people are out there struggling with withdrawal, and we don't know it?

 

I would say more than we think.

 

 

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On top of that, how many people are out there suffering in tolerance WD, completely oblivious because their doctor failed to make the diagnosis?

 

For a few years I was one of them.

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I completely agree FloridaGuy!  Look how many doctors, specialists, and surgeons I went to and nobody had a clue!  I think there are many walking dead out there in Tolerance w/d.

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Me too Florida - didn't take enough K to mute the benzo-created anxiety.  So what I reported to my doctor was actually all drug-related.  That is where the disconnect lies.  If you haven't lived it there is absolutely no way to know.  Billwill

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 I believe there is a role for psychiatry in extreme cases of self harm or psychosis, shizophrenia, multiple personality.  However, the mass marketing of medications to the greater public is dangerous, in my view.  Even worse is how thousands of young kids are getting addicted to medications for attention deficit or some other problem that might best be addressed with cognitive therapy or some other approach. Better yet, actually spending time with your kid and parenting them!

 

Vertigo

 

I couldn't agree more, Verti 

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I have to believe there are tons of people out there in some state of benzo withdrawal who don't know why they feel so sick. I read a news article a few days ago that talked about how there are so many people going to the emergency room after taking Klonopin. I myself was constantly up dosed over a period of a year by more than one doctor. And I've been told by several doctors that benzo withdrawal doesn't even exist, that includes doctors who prescribe them. One psychiatrist that I talked to admitted that benzo w/d exists but he told me it lasts six months at the longest.

 

Another thing about medication is that modern psychiatry is not that advanced. My mother worked at a mental hospital for years and anti-psychotics are more dangerous than benzos. People with schizophrenia die on average more than twenty-five years younger than everyone else.

 

I don't believe that all psychiatrists are bad people or are intentionally trying to harm people but I believe the profession itself is deeply flawed. Think about this, there are billions of nerve endings in one persons brain. The worlds smartest neurologists don't know how the brain actually works. The whole chemical imbalance thing is complete bs. It's an excuse doctors use to push meds. If some people do have an imbalance no one could know, because even if a psychiatrist opened up your skull and dug around in your brain they wouldn't know what they were looking at.

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That's the scariest thing about these drugs. At least if you KNOW what is going on with your body you stand a fighting chance. When the drug is making you sick and the doctors can't even make the diagnosis you are on your own to figure it out yourself. I'm lucky that my doctor took an "indefinite medical leave" which motivated me to get off of all of the stuff I was taking.

 

Where would I be today if I had booked another appointment with her and she had convinced me that I "need to be on something"?

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Turning kids into mind-numbed robots

« on: March 07, 2011, 12:03:41 AM » 

 

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I find it very disturbing in the way in which doctors and big pharma are robbing a generation of school kids of their individuality and creativity by telling them that they have attention deficit disorder and must take a little pill, called ritalin. . . .Teachers complain that kids are restless and daydream too much. . . .They are kids, they are supposed to be restless and to daydream!!! . . .  They are kids, they are supposed to be curious and too ask too many questions!!!..........What kind of a world would it be if DaVinci, Mozart, Dr.Salk, Lincoln,Madam Currie, Churchill, and others, too many to mention, were given a little pill and were not allowed to daydream?...........Doctors, teachers and big pharma, please let our kids be kids! They  represent your future too!!   

 

 

 

 

Vertigo, the above is from a thread I started when I was pretty new to this site.

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well both my kids are on add meds      my youngest son can not focus on school work at all with out it...  I waited years b4 using it...I always feel so horrible...  like what if one day it all gets turned around and its my fault that it caused something..since I am a parent....    I do have a friend as an adult started add meds..says he wishes he had them as a child...  so ??     I just know I really like my shrink alot...but... I also liked my dr who put me on xanax for stress and never had anxiety...alot also      soooo...  I know I need off the benzos again.... thats a no brainer..  just wonder how much trust to put in my shrink ...  her claiming she is absoutely positive I need ssri...  and is here to help not hurt me...  she is very thorough like no other dr I have seen..  thats for sure..  Thanks for every ones input...  its been interesting 

 

 

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Does anyone know a psychiatrist that has cured anyone of a "mental illness"?

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From what I understand Psychiatry has never cured even one mental illness.

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From what I understand Psychiatry has never cured even one mental illness.

 

oh.... but I thought doctors could cure at least one "illness" with which they work....

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Does anyone know a psychiatrist that has cured anyone of a "mental illness"?

Nope, never gonna happen... if psychiatry actually cured anyone, they wouldn't make any of their precious money 

What you said reminded me of a video I'd seen in the past.. here it is:

 

and you might be interested in this series:

Very fascinating stuff, to say the least

 

 

Holly