[ba...] Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hey cupcake, Thank you for telling the truth. We have moderators here who talk about how they were one of the "worst". What a joke. They had a few months of dp/dr but still managed to kick their walkers and pain pumps, euthanize their cats, box up their double-wides, and spend an inordinate amount of time telling people how easy it is. It's not easy. This is the most horrific thing I have been through. It can take years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Babyrex, in my case i'm sure it will take years. i can hardly scrum myself, never mind about laminate floors, wish we could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Morreweg ... thank you for this bump ... it is appreciated ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Morreweg ... thank you for this bump ... it is appreciated ... you are welcome Nova, wish you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[pr...] Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 thanks for the bump C. i feel that i couldt take between 5-10 years. i hope that's not the case. i'm glad Paul healed in 3 1/2. maybe there's hope yet? but at 29 months, i'm still down. i can walk almost everyday but it's a very short way around my home. i still can't venture out and i'm still couch bound 16-19 hours per day. at night i stay chair bound for 3-4 hours. so there you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Di...] Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I al like prettydaisys,and at 22 months off, all i can manage is walking in the house.I cant see any common denominator with those of us suffering the terrible tinnitus and muscles that contract so tightly that our heads are squeezed to where its hard to think and walking outside is not possible. Summer of 3013 i actually got to my pool one time ,yet in 2014 it was impossible,and finally i am waiting fir 22 months for a tiny window ,to give me some hope i could recover.( i will be 77 next month,so i am not as able to be as patient as someone only 60 years old) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[pr...] Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I al like prettydaisys,and at 22 months off, all i can manage is walking in the house.I cant see any common denominator with those of us suffering the terrible tinnitus and muscles that contract so tightly that our heads are squeezed to where its hard to think and walking outside is not possible. Summer of 3013 i actually got to my pool one time ,yet in 2014 it was impossible,and finally i am waiting fir 22 months for a tiny window ,to give me some hope i could recover.( i will be 77 next month,so i am not as able to be as patient as someone only 60 years old) yeah dippsydoodle, some others in your age range are feeling impatient too. but don't worry, going into and after the 3rd year will prove to be a little better for us. it just has too. it just has too. it just has too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[gi...] Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 On 1mg K 23 months. I thought my year in hell that began at month 3 was the worst I'd heard until I read Paul's story. But here I am, 6 years later, having never felt 100% in all these years. I've never felt more than 80%, really, and in the last year some of my symptoms have come back. Such is the turn of the screw. Congrats to all who make it out safe and sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ru...] Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Hello. This is so what I needed to hear tonight, Paul. I joined BB some time ago and have only posted a couple of times until tonight. I am going on my 21st month free and am struggling greatly. It's good to hear that after such a long time, you have healed so much. I am so scared and have been so down. I was on Klonopin for almost 25 years and know it's going to take quite a while to heal as I was in horrific tolerance withdrawal for about 6-7 years. This is just the bit I need to hang on. Thank you, thank you, thank you! All the best to you going forward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Su...] Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Thank you for your heartfelt account of your journey. It gives me courage and hope. Congratulations on getting your life life back too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ar...] Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Great story. I am glad Paul persevered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DP...] Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I know Paul and talk to him often, he says most ppl he knows recover by 2 years, the rest by 3, and he says no one was as bad as him and most ppl will not take as long as he did..but he was about 95% by 3 and he does all he can to help others going through this mess. love cupcake I can't exhaust the litany of symptoms and ALL the horror I went thru, it would take volumes, but I'll relate what I can as best as I can. I can tell you what eventually worked for me and how I succeeded. It took me 3 1/2 years to get to where I am today, but if you read on, you'll see that I was one of the worst. The first year was all survival and that was it, and I will tell you that at some point you have to take control and do some things to make yourself better, but if you were as bad as I was, there was not much I could do except what you have all heard before.......TIME.....it will heal you...... I was on Klonopin, just 1 mg for 12 years after some situational panic attacks. I moved around alot in those days so the doctors just kept me on the stuff.......you know the routine.......I was a successful Investment Broker, natural bodybuilder, mountainedbiked, roller bladed and many other things, I had a pretty full life, and then it started to come crashing down. Somewhere around the 8th year though I'm sure it started to effect me before that, I started to get sick more often, handled stress not as well, ran out of energy more often and didn't seem to have the postive outlook on life like I once had......since this crap is so insideous, it took several more years for the shit to hit the fan... Let me tell you right now so as not to concern those that have struggled, or those who symptoms are troublesome but they can still kind of function, and anyone knowing Geraldine, Yvonne or Hilliary can attest to, I was in the top 5% of the worst cases you will ever see. I don't say that lightly cause I know we all think we are the worst......But I really really was........so here is how it went for me, and then I'll tell you what I did to finally get well......pull up a chair....When I came off in Sept of 2001 and since I didn't know of this site, I went to a detox center instead of tapering......WRONG THING TO DO my friends, especially if like us, you are susceptible to protracted WD but of course, you would never know it until you got off. Suffice it to say that as hard as tapering is, cold turkey is the epitome of hell on earth.......hundreds of times more painful than the tapering process.... The first two months off were terrible but then like many, in the third month, hell opened up and invited me in.....I had over 75 symptoms and though I never did get the dp/dr like many, be lieve me, I had almost all the rest....for me, the head pressure was horrific, first exploding outwards for the first year, then crushing my brain like an orange the 2nd and part of the 3rd year....I did not sleep at night for onver two years.....I could not open my mail for a year, cook for myself, answer the phone, hell I couldn't even change the clocks during the change time....I was debilitated beyond belief. I was in bed 90% of the time for the first year, my central nervous system blown to hell.....even looking at tv or the computer was too much to bear, felt like my head would explode, my brain actaully vibrated and I was helpless.......my folks saved my life and took care of me.......they had too and I thought of suicide every day for at least 4 months until I could actually leave my bedroom and go into the front room.....all hope of even a small existence was gone and I thought would never ever return....... Sorry I can't relate more of the misery, but just know that I suffered more than the majority.......my good friends Geraldine, Yvonne and Hilliary will tell you..... Around 6 months off I first spoke with Geraldine and Yvonne. They both said I should go see a naturopath.....I have a background in health and supplements but never heard of candida......well, you may or may not believe in it but whatever I had, it was just like it. I went on a special diet mostly like an Atkins diet cause any sugar even natural would destroy me, and any wheat products the same thing...I stay on this type of diet for at least a year and maybe relaxed a little after 1 1/2 years off Klonopin. At 10 months off I finally could walk around the block.....but only 3 days a week cause it would take me two days to recover from just walking a mile.....this is the part where I decided to try and take charge a bit.......but for those of you who say, "I just can't do it", I understand totally.....but you have to try at some point.....if you can't.....try again in a week....if I walked to the mailbox in the first 10 months, that is all I could do for the day....and most of the time I didn't cause I couldn't handle the stress....I could only walk at night cause daytime would hurt sooooo much..... I walked further and further but still only 3 days a week until about 18 months off....remember, I was a weight trainer and jock, but I couldn't mangage more than this. I was still bad but improving a little.....I finally went back to the gym at 18 months but let me tell you...before all this at 6'1", I was 200 lbs of muscle and 12% body fat.....now I was 230, lost all my muscle and was probably 35% bodyfat.....I started to lift and resistence exercise seemed to help more but it killed me later cause my brain and body were so revved up, pressurized etc that my ears would ring all night, not that I slept anyway, and would be in agony most of that time... anyway, I did this routine for another year, I still couldn't handle any stress......any........maybe going to the store but that was it...but I persevered......and let me tell you......TIME still is the major healing force, but my exercise, while painful, exhausting was helping me strengthen my nervous system and adrenal glands....but very slowly..... OK.....that is just a small part of the hell I went thru...again, there is much much more but I know it is just too much to write....but HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS........I am 95% and going back to work now after 3 1/2 years....I weight train with more weight than before and in fact have gained back all my muscle, lost most of the fat. I can handle most stress now actually better than before and I am calmer now than ever in my whole life.... I was transformed into a better me.....when you hear people say that you will forget most of your symptoms they are right.....when you hear them say, "it was worth it"......I know you don't believe it now, but it was.....the keys for me were keeping my diet simple, progressively exercising more but you have to go slow on that, and when you start to see some daylight and feel almost healed, it was best for me to get back into my meditation, and read books like "Mind Power" by John Kehoe, Total Self Confidence by Dr. Robert Anthony. What worked for me may work for you.......most of you will heal long before I did and thank God you will....most will never see the extreme nature of protracted hell like I did....bless your fortune and as bad as it is now.........it will heal itself provided you assist it along the way....when you can.....never reinstate after you have been off for a few months....or even years, it will reverse any progress...... But YOU GUYS and GALS will heal......it will go away.....and it will get better and better......it even know is getting better and better and even when I feel, well, maybe I"m done healing.......it continues to heal.......hell, know I lift weights 4 times a week, do interval cardio twice a week and long distance cardio twice a week....two years ago.......no way.........and now I"m going to work.....my adrenals were the last to heal and are still healing....my energy is still not back to par but at 48 yrs old, I'm exercise more than most my age and most even 10 years younger... I'm living proof that you do heal from this torture, you really do, and I know some just can't or don't believe it.....don't worry about it, I didn't either.......but it happened if you just take any measures you can WHEN you can.....either way though, you will return to your self and in some ways be even better, cause after going thru this torment, nothing bothers me much anymore......how could it, nothing including war, divorce, other illness, etc could ever be as bad as what I had to endure......... So my friends.......there is light at the end of the tunnel, there is salvation from benzo WD.....the healed ones have told you and know I'm telling you......one of the worst has no blossomed into someone even better.......if you can't smile now......you will......faith is hard but you must dig down deep and know that what I tell you is true...I have never posted much on this site cause I as too sick.. But I found my mentors and did what they said.......I forever will love Geraldine and Yvonne for their care, nurture and guidance, their knowledge and empathy......they saved my life....literally.....and I still talk with them to this day......but about good stuff, not bad....thanks to Hilliary who helped me thru the worst 4 months and though she is still mending......she gave me hope early on....and all the others that took time to lead me down the path of healing... ........and to all of you that are still symptomatic and hurting or even being tormented, your day will come....I promise......the sun will shine upon you, the Lord (or your God) will lift you up from the despair and misery......I know I have said alot, but you have heard it from others before........and one day perhaps soon, you will be writing your own success story.......COUNT ON IT........ God Bless you all.....you are all in my prayers each and every day....and know that good things will happen.... Paul..... From what I've read on the protracted board so far........ This is a normal protracted withdrawal story...... He was doing more at 18 months off than most I've read about so I think this story is great in comparison........ I'm 3 years 4 months off and I wouldn't last 10 mins in a gym with the head pressure / acid trip brain........... I've had everything and more still at this far out and I only used for 6 months.......... To say he never had DP-DR is a true blessing..... You can't even imagine how terryfying this is until you have lived with it day in day out for over 3 years........ At my time off I'm still bed bound "some days" ......... I think to be 95% now and to have done as much as he has is nothing short of amazing compared to all those still protracted after 3 years......... So if this story is in the top 5% worst cases then it's just made me think I'll never heal given how bad I and many others are still at 3, 4 & some 5 years off........... I'm delighted for this buddie so please don't take what I say wrong......... It now just makes me think that my story is in the top 1% worst by comparison and that sucks even more.......... Can't wait to hear he's finally 100% 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Si...] Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 This is great story. Although im suffering pretty badly from dp/Dr I can relate to this guys story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ni...] Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 This is great story. Although im suffering pretty badly from dp/Dr I can relate to this guys story! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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