Before sleeping

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@[Tw...] thats a high dose. May i ask hoe long you were on them? I eas on ativan toughly the dame ad you fit msny years then switched to clonazepam as the lorazepam stopped working. 

Cold turkey for me being on benzod is impossible times 80 billion. 

Thanks

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1 minute ago, [[b...] said:

@[Tw...] thats a high dose. May i ask hoe long you were on them? I eas on ativan toughly the dame ad you fit msny years then switched to clonazepam as the lorazepam stopped working. 

Cold turkey for me being on benzod is impossible times 80 billion. 

Thanks

I was crying and very scared when the inpatient detox facility had me quit the Xanax cold turkey. I have been taking different benzodiazepines for twenty years, and the past 2 years I was taking Xanax 14 mg per day along with 6 mg of Klonopin. It is truly a miracle that I didn't die, either from my high dosage of benzodiazepines, or from the benzod

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I meant that I came close but didn't die from the benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome. 

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1 hour ago, [[S...] said:

Do you have any repressed trauma or emotional abuse?

Yes I was severely emotionally abused as a child. 

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I've been on the same but it's truly a miracle you didn't have withdrawal fot long. Is there anything you can help me with. Any information? 

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19 minutes ago, [[b...] said:

I've been on the same but it's truly a miracle you didn't have withdrawal fot long. Is there anything you can help me with. Any information? 

It helps to get medical attention. I was in the Emergency Room for Seven days. When first quitting benzodiazepines , it helps to get on a medication to prevent seizures. 

Coping skills include distraction, spirituality, reading, artwork, walking, talking and spending time with your support system, brain games, watching movies , and lots of prayer. 

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Coping skills don't help that much for me. Emergency room doctors do nothing just prescribe something and send me home from past. I had a doctor working outpatient with me but he tapered so fast.

The current doctor is not a specialist but better than all the past ones. He's dropping .5 every two weeks so 10percent on my starting dose could have been a big drop of 0.8 every two weeks. 

It's so hard. Family was told 8 months yet none are addicts but they all play doctor.

Watching every move. I workout as we have a home gym but my wife and 5 year old wr moved in with my parents and my brother and his family.

Big enough house but I just end up watching TV unless someone takes me out. I just don't understand ehy I ever started actually ehy doctors prescribed em like candy when I started

 

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Yes doctors used to prescribe benzod like candy. That's how I got started twenty years ago. 

Hang in there and don't give up. Things will get better for you. 

If I can survive quitting Xanax 14 mg per day and a benzodiazepine addiction for twenty years, then I believe that anyone on this website can successfully beat benzodiazepine addiction.

I used to say that coping skills don't work for me, but now I must lean on my coping skills to make it through all of the anxiety and panic. 

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1 hour ago, [[T...] said:

It helps to get medical attention. I was in the Emergency Room for Seven days. When first quitting benzodiazepines , it helps to get on a medication to prevent seizures. 

Coping skills include distraction, spirituality, reading, artwork, walking, talking and spending time with your support system, brain games, watching movies , and lots of prayer. 

 

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Yes and I also have been taking them for that long or longer at ridiculous doses.

Hardest part is family thinks that my doc said 8 months it going to be 8 month like f off. Wife understands just my brother and dad think I failed at two rehab centre's which tricked me with 45 day tapers on 90 day stays. I was about to go to another centre until I discovered this doctorjust sheer luck. 

He is good but it's phone appointments. 

He will be calling soon so nerves are kivking

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3 hours ago, [[b...] said:

Yes and I also have been taking them for that long or longer at ridiculous doses.

Hardest part is family thinks that my doc said 8 months it going to be 8 month like f off. Wife understands just my brother and dad think I failed at two rehab centre's which tricked me with 45 day tapers on 90 day stays. I was about to go to another centre until I discovered this doctorjust sheer luck. 

He is good but it's phone appointments. 

He will be calling soon so nerves are kivking

 

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Just now, [[C...] said:

3 hours ago, [[b...] said:

Yes and I also have been taking them for that long or longer at ridiculous doses.

Hardest part is family thinks that my doc said 8 months it going to be 8 month like f off. Wife understands just my brother and dad think I failed at two rehab centre's which tricked me with 45 day tapers on 90 day stays. I was about to go to another centre until I discovered this doctorjust sheer luck. 

He is good but it's phone appointments. 

He will be calling soon so nerves are kivking

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Someone should sue these rehab centers. What they do with benzo patients is cruel and inhumane. You didn't fail them; they failed you. And, in my opinion, seems like they are all either directly or indirectly owned, managed and controlled by private equity companies. They do a great job with alcohol but that model is inappropriate for prescription pill physical dependence. Distract as best you can.

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Tottaĺy agreed. Unbelievable. One cost me 50000 dollars one 35 thousand.

I had no outside doctor to turn to and just went with the flow. Family pressures.

My dad was going to put me in some scam place and my brother and him just kept looking and want Me off.

I found this doctor just by making appointments via phone to any phone doctor and this guy agreed. 

But all meds have to be thru him unless non anxiety and ya but those two centre's were 90 day stays. Then they started saying u can't go here or to secondary housing as we can't test u. Dumb me did 45 day tapers at both while staying for 90. Sue them God almighty.

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1 hour ago, [[b...] said:

Tottaĺy agreed. Unbelievable. One cost me 50000 dollars one 35 thousand.

I had no outside doctor to turn to and just went with the flow. Family pressures.

My dad was going to put me in some scam place and my brother and him just kept looking and want Me off.

I found this doctor just by making appointments via phone to any phone doctor and this guy agreed. 

But all meds have to be thru him unless non anxiety and ya but those two centre's were 90 day stays. Then they started saying u can't go here or to secondary housing as we can't test u. Dumb me did 45 day tapers at both while staying for 90. Sue them God almighty.

what states are they in? does this new doctor know what he's doing

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No I'm from Vancouver bc. Out here we have public medical system no private shrinks. That's harsh but rehab centre's all over the states will welcome you. Problem is most may not continue a taper maybe the real expensive ones do. I wad the only benxo patient at both centres stupid Mr as well.

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17 hours ago, [[b...] said:

No I'm from Vancouver bc. Out here we have public medical system no private shrinks. That's harsh but rehab centre's all over the states will welcome you. Problem is most may not continue a taper maybe the real expensive ones do. I wad the only benxo patient at both centres stupid Mr as well.

 

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You're not stupid. You made the same mistake that many of us did. Trusted these rehabs to do what they said they would -- get us safely off of these drugs. Problem is that does not work for most benzo patients or maybe it works for some but not you or me. I specifically asked the last rehab i went to how long the taper would be and they told me as long as I needed it and still they took me off in under 14 days from 50 mgs of valium and bupenorphine. I did not sleep for 8 days and then they started the seroqeul and trazedone and I slept some. Really, they are just profit centers. What taper rate are you on now? Hang in there. You are not alone and you will get through this. You have youth on your side.

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@[Ca...] appointment with the doctor didn't assure me that he will work much. He said we will do 8 months when we started at 8 mg 3 months ago. He said 0.5 reduction every couple weeks and we will re visit it at 4 mg.

I'm still at 5.5 as he screwed up so I'm saving some and taking 5 mg with 600mg to 900 mg lyrica which believe it or not I'm hooked on as it intensives benzos significantly. Also I'm on mirrwzipine 45 mg starting Monday. Was on 30 mg.

But I feel anxious rn badly. Worried about sleep.

Worst part, one of them, is that if I ear something the effects of benxos is gone. So I can't eat.. I'll eat before sleep and try to when I wake up.

The treatment centers have made this "my last chance" or om disowned says my dad and the rest agree.

I am worried I sent the taper to last a year ish but let's see.

I'm happy for u and happy I got u as hope!

My wife works nasty hours so I'm a stay home dad as well. Tough. I wish I had a better plan. A magic pill. 

CLONODINE WAS given without me asking by a pain spevialist a week ago and that does nothing.

I think I just have to br happy and maybe I am going to be anxious for years maybe some people just are right? 

Thanks again and everyone as this site is all I have. I feel like having a zopiclone omg or ambien. 

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What state are you in?

Clonadine is an old line blood pressure med used by treatment centers for anxiety.

How are you sleeping?

Your doctor knows little about proper benzo taper. But many of them do not. It should be a symptom based taper so that drops-- if its not a microtaper --are made as the patient tolerates. Your doctor really should be listening to you more than dictating to you.

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5 minutes ago, [[C...] said:

What state are you in?

Clonadine is an old line blood pressure med used by treatment centers for anxiety.

How are you sleeping?

Your doctor knows little about proper benzo taper. But many of them do not. It should be a symptom based taper so that drops-- if its not a microtaper --are made as the patient tolerates. Your doctor really should be listening to you more than dictating to you.

Sorry you did say Vancouver before

 

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@[Ca...] agreed of course and I'm sleeping very bad. Long story but ya I wish I could sleep. When I do I need high trazadone or some mirtazipine but when I'm up I can't really get back to sleep. And in the morning anxiety is monstrous the last week especially. When I take my benzo if I fall asleep the effects go down. But I will nap tomorrow day time. Meditate and nap better than watching dexter lol.

Clondine may help I can't tell. I may take two now and see. Chat soon my friend!

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On 28/04/2024 at 12:52, [[b...] said:

I'm still at 5.5 as he screwed up so I'm saving some and taking 5 mg with 600mg to 900 mg lyrica which believe it or not I'm hooked on as it intensives benzos significantly.

@[ba...] Do you know if it is common knowledge that Lyrica intensifies the effect of benzos? I have taken Lyrica in the past with a benzo and it did seem to intensify the effect. I just can't find anything online saying that it does.

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@[Al...] it has for me for the past 4 years or since I started. Like yesterday I took 5.5 mg clonazepam and felt OK. But then I took 600 mg lyrica but to be honest I chequered them and I also take grapefruit juice with my benzo dose. I took the lyrica yesterday almost two hours later and I felt like I was buzzed auddenly.

I have to warn that i abused lyrica meaning like 1200 mg or more in the past. Also my doctor oddball yesterday decided to cut my lyrica from 600 daily to 3⁰ mg daily. But he upped my clonazepam strangely and I think because I asked him to increase mirtazipine up to 45 mg that he made me pay on the lyrica. 

I have confirmed that I didn't need to up my mirtazipine. Lower doses make u more sedated off course pharmacist and doctor don't know this. The internet and this site are better than GPS.

He also doesn't know that lyrica helps eith anxiety. Nor have other doctors.

I now have to pay the price with a lowered dose. He will get mad and maybe decrease my clonazepam if I ask to decrease mirtazipine. It sucks and I bet the lyrica will have withdrawal effects.

Lyrica is easy to get for anxiety. I use it initially for testicular pain. Barely any doctor in past four years has really cared about me using 600 mg a day. 

 

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Hope that helps. 

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@[Tw...] how are you doing?