3,2,1: Under 3 mg Valium people

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Can't- yes winter of Windows too!

Gwinna- thanks! Sounds like you're doing great w/ those cuts so if it ain't broke don't fix it. I couldn't handle such large cuts so MT became the only way I could get down and it's working.

 

What a crazy journey but glad to finally be here. ... but will be even more glad when I'm out of this club too... 

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Strange sxs, I've been waking up sweating.  Anybody else ?

 

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Strange sxs, I've been waking up sweating.  Anybody else ?

 

That happened to me often when I around the 3.25mg mark and held for a long time. The shirt I slept in would be wet especially around the chest. After I lowered to 3mg it stopped.

I’ve been in tolerence since day 1 though so I needed to make a move and it helped me. Even if it was just a small one.

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I go back to the Psychiatrist on Tuesday this week. I will have to lie to him like I always do.

He doesn’t know I’m tapering. I tried telling him at 3.25 I was tapering and he asked, don’t you get the 2mg pills? How are you getting 3.25mg? Well. I take the 2mg then another half and then weigh out another quarter mg by using a fingernail file and scales to get the right dose. Then he says, you should just be able to stop that low of a dose. Most my patients are on much more than that of either Valium or Xanax. The next visit, I told him the 2mg pills x 3 times a day is working great! Better quality of life. That way I can continue to get my 84 of the 2 mg pills every 28 days.

I wish I had a Dr. who knew I was struggling to let go but that’s ok.

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I go back to the Psychiatrist on Tuesday this week. I will have to lie to him like I always do.

He doesn’t know I’m tapering. I tried telling him at 3.25 I was tapering and he asked, don’t you get the 2mg pills? How are you getting 3.25mg? Well. I take the 2mg then another half and then weigh out another quarter mg by using a fingernail file and scales to get the right dose. Then he says, you should just be able to stop that low of a dose. Most my patients are on much more than that of either Valium or Xanax. The next visit, I told him the 2mg pills x 3 times a day is working great! Better quality of life. That way I can continue to get my 84 of the 2 mg pills every 28 days.

I wish I had a Dr. who knew I was struggling to let go but that’s ok.

 

It's so sad that we have to resort to this! I just 'upped' my dose at my Dr to 3mg so that I could have a cushion and not always wondering if the pharmacy would refill my rx early for my vacation, etc.. anyways, great job everyone! Under 3 is the place to be! (Until it's ZERO, now that's the real place to be!)

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Pitchman- So crazy that pdoc gave you a hard time at 3.25 but happy to prescribe at 6mg per day! It's all so messed up! Luckily my pdoc is on board and I can be honest w/ him. He was against MT but I did it anyway andnow that he sees it's working, he is on board. But I tell him I spill a lot when weighing and need extra pills so he Rx'es extra each month so I can stockpile.

 

Congrats to all who are here! So glad to be in your company!

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Pitchman- So crazy that pdoc gave you a hard time at 3.25 but happy to prescribe at 6mg per day! It's all so messed up! Luckily my pdoc is on board and I can be honest w/ him. He was against MT but I did it anyway andnow that he sees it's working, he is on board. But I tell him I spill a lot when weighing and need extra pills so he Rx'es extra each month so I can stockpile.

 

Congrats to all who are here! So glad to be in your company!

 

Hey libr, good to see you here in the homestretch. My pdoc always gives extra too so I’ve got a stockpile. He doesn’t care as long as I’m moving forward. Actually he said I could stay on forever if I wanted and I was like, um, no thanks 🙄

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Yes olive and libr, It is nice to have a stash. I think I’m up to about 500 of the 2mg tablets now but about 80 percent of them are Mylan. I am now getting the teva brand. In my opinion, the teva are much better pills because they don’t crumble when you break one in half. They actually snap in half and are easier to get into smaller pieces to put on a scale.

Hey hope76. So glad to see you are getting close. I was going to post you a message on Ed’s blog but he has been inactive. Looks like he is much better.

My Psychiatrist doesn’t care about me getting off. He has actually encouraged me to take more for a better “quality of life.”

My GP told me. There is no way this is benzo withdrawal you have! He wanted to put me on seroquel 100mg a day. No thanks. I will only use this guy for the flu, etc from now on. I lost my trust in him bigtime.

In April, I really struggled. I will post that story soon but I think I have my head screwed on straight now. I am able to drink my one cup of kuerig coffee again about 3-4 days a week.

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Pitchman- So crazy that pdoc gave you a hard time at 3.25 but happy to prescribe at 6mg per day! It's all so messed up! Luckily my pdoc is on board and I can be honest w/ him. He was against MT but I did it anyway andnow that he sees it's working, he is on board. But I tell him I spill a lot when weighing and need extra pills so he Rx'es extra each month so I can stockpile.

 

Congrats to all who are here! So glad to be in your company!

 

Hey libr, good to see you here in the homestretch. My pdoc always gives extra too so I’ve got a stockpile. He doesn’t care as long as I’m moving forward. Actually he said I could stay on forever if I wanted and I was like, um, no thanks 🙄

Hi Hope, my GP has said the same thing to me, "you have a chronic ear disease, I am OK with you staying on the Valium"...for all intents and purposes I am still on 2mg Of Valium. I do update a Niece that is my emergency contact of my present dosages. In the mean time I have tons of Valium socked away. I have tried to tell him my dosage I am on, but he just passes it by, otherwise I have excellent care from him. But I really want my records to show what I am on, I will take this up with him next visit. Because they will not believe my Niece, they will ask my Doctor. Not so with my ENT Doctor, to this day has it in his mind that I am drug dealer....I fired him finally..💖 Peace and Healing to all 3mg and below Buddies.

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My pdoc knows my dose when I see him but there's no record of my dose between visits. I have a record at home and I keep it updated on my phone. There is a health icon on the iPhone- I keep all my info in there. It can be accessed w/o your passcode. So from the passcode screen there is a button at the bottom that says Emergency. Push that and then there is an option for Medical ID. Push that and anyone can get access in case of emergency. Supposedly, ER docs and nurses know abt this feature. I update my current benzo dose in there every couple of days. But really if there is an emergency, there's no way they'd even know how to give us these doses. I would teach one person how to make your doses. Maybe make a video- I should do that!

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My pdoc knows my dose when I see him but there's no record of my dose between visits. I have a record at home and I keep it updated on my phone. There is a health icon on the iPhone- I keep all my info in there. It can be accessed w/o your passcode. So from the passcode screen there is a button at the bottom that says Emergency. Push that and then there is an option for Medical ID. Push that and anyone can get access in case of emergency. Supposedly, ER docs and nurses know abt this feature. I update my current benzo dose in there every couple of days. But really if there is an emergency, there's no way they'd even know how to give us these doses. I would teach one person how to make your doses. Maybe make a video- I should do that!

That is really a good idea about the phone, I do not have an iPhone, but I will check for something like that, a app perhaps. Thanks for the heads up. 💖 Peace and Healing. 

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Yes I keep a daily log in my notes app.

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Yes I keep a daily log in my notes app.

I found an app for my phone, was ready to download, and it said not compatible with my phone...I will search some more, my phone is an android and not that old, oh well, so be it.

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Yes I keep a daily log in my notes app.

I found an app for my phone, was ready to download, and it said not compatible with my phone...I will search some more, my phone is an android and not that old, oh well, so be it.

 

Hi Begood, here’s a recent (I think) list of good Notes apps for Android.

 

  10 best note taking apps for Android

 

 

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Yes I keep a daily log in my notes app.

I found an app for my phone, was ready to download, and it said not compatible with my phone...I will search some more, my phone is an android and not that old, oh well, so be it.

 

Hi Begood, here’s a recent (I think) list of good Notes apps for Android.

 

  10 best note taking apps for Android

Thanks Leslie, I appreciate this so much. 💖 Peace.

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I’ve pretty much been doing this taper on my own. Just two of my friends knew.. One of the friends I got support from died of lung cancer yesterday. He got pneumonia and just couldn’t recover. He went into the hospital on Wednesday and was expected to get out by Monday but died yesterday. I’m really bummed. Sad. When I heard the news, my chest tightened. I felt like taking a Xanax. I didn’t do it.

I still have some Xanax leftover that I really should get rid of so I never get tempted. I carry one in my pocket as an emergency dose when I am out and about. Valium does nothing for me. I haven’t felt therapeutic from it since 4mg.

I got too over confident and pushed myself too hard. Treadmill, bowflex and even went out on the lake on the seadoo. Was cocky and got slammed on July 17. Feeling better now and about ready to get back to work on the taper.

When I first started out on the seadoo on the lake, I had some underlying conditions pop up. I started thinking, what happens if I have a heart attack out here or even a panic attack. Who helps me?

I shrugged it off and rode for an hour. My chief complaints at this low dose are. Weakness in arms and shoulders. Now, I’m starting to get some rage i have to recognize. I about blew up in the casino the other night.I am also getting cravings too. Jonesing.

Feel like I need to be on a treadmill or moving around all the time. Bottoms of my feet hurt. But, I’m feeling better at this lower dose. To me, it’s really felt weird under 2.5 mg but in a good way. Like there is no turning back.

Still using the 7.5 remeron for sleep. Working pretty good. Getting 7-8 hours most nights. Sometimes wake in the middle of the night thinking WTF, but usually fall back asleep.

About 6 months ago, i tried upping the remeron to 11.25 mg and for 3 days had the most crushing fatigue I can’t even explain. So back to 7.5. Thank god it hasn’t petered out on me.

At about 2.75 mg I think it was, I started getting the physical symptoms. I started believing I had ALS or MS. I went to the GP and told him I thought I had Lou Gehrig’s disease and he thought I was nuts. Wanted to put me on 100mg of seroquel. He does not believe any of this is benzo related. The physiatrist suggested maybe going back on Xanax. I want off benzos and will be off them so I said no.

So, the pdoc doesnt know I’m tapering so I have no support from either Dr.

I’m whining and feeling sorry for myself tonight but I have nobody to talk to about this so I needed to write it down and get it off my chest.

 

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I’ve pretty much been doing this taper on my own. Just two of my friends knew.. One of the friends I got support from died of lung cancer yesterday. He got pneumonia and just couldn’t recover. He went into the hospital on Wednesday and was expected to get out by Monday but died yesterday. I’m really bummed. Sad. When I heard the news, my chest tightened. I felt like taking a Xanax. I didn’t do it.

I still have some Xanax leftover that I really should get rid of so I never get tempted. I carry one in my pocket as an emergency dose when I am out and about. Valium does nothing for me. I haven’t felt therapeutic from it since 4mg.

I got too over confident and pushed myself too hard. Treadmill, bowflex and even went out on the lake on the seadoo. Was cocky and got slammed on July 17. Feeling better now and about ready to get back to work on the taper.

When I first started out on the seadoo on the lake, I had some underlying conditions pop up. I started thinking, what happens if I have a heart attack out here or even a panic attack. Who helps me?

I shrugged it off and rode for an hour. My chief complaints at this low dose are. Weakness in arms and shoulders. Now, I’m starting to get some rage i have to recognize. I about blew up in the casino the other night.I am also getting cravings too. Jonesing.

Feel like I need to be on a treadmill or moving around all the time. Bottoms of my feet hurt. But, I’m feeling better at this lower dose. To me, it’s really felt weird under 2.5 mg but in a good way. Like there is no turning back.

Still using the 7.5 remeron for sleep. Working pretty good. Getting 7-8 hours most nights. Sometimes wake in the middle of the night thinking WTF, but usually fall back asleep.

About 6 months ago, i tried upping the remeron to 11.25 mg and for 3 days had the most crushing fatigue I can’t even explain. So back to 7.5. Thank god it hasn’t petered out on me.

At about 2.75 mg I think it was, I started getting the physical symptoms. I started believing I had ALS or MS. I went to the GP and told him I thought I had Lou Gehrig’s disease and he thought I was nuts. Wanted to put me on 100mg of seroquel. He does not believe any of this is benzo related. The physiatrist suggested maybe going back on Xanax. I want off benzos and will be off them so I said no.

So, the pdoc doesnt know I’m tapering so I have no support from either Dr.

I’m whining and feeling sorry for myself tonight but I have nobody to talk to about this so I needed to write it down and get it off my chest.

 

I’m so sorry about your friend Pitchman, that really sucks! I too am getting more physical stuff at this lower dose. Lots of fatigue and muscle weakness/spasm. It sounds like you are doing well with your taper though, all things considered. Hang in there 

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Thank you Hope! So glad to hear from you. I’ve checked out some of your twitter stuff. You’re doing great work!

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Thank you Hope! So glad to hear from you. I’ve checked out some of your twitter stuff. You’re doing great work!

 

Thank you 

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Arrived finally at 2 mg. Proud of myself getting there… but now as i'm on minimal dose i'm starting to have sleeping issues again. Luckily i'm home during the day and can get some rest. Trying to keep busy with dance classes in between. Hoping my body will be used to this dose in one week a half cauz then i'll be teaching dance classes all day. Fingers crossed...

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Arrived finally at 2 mg. Proud of myself getting there… but now as i'm on minimal dose i'm starting to have sleeping issues again. Luckily i'm home during the day and can get some rest. Trying to keep busy with dance classes in between. Hoping my body will be used to this dose in one week a half cauz then i'll be teaching dance classes all day. Fingers crossed...

"Congrats Shake", wonderful news, one step at a time. Just do the best you can with your sleep, do not let it stress you out or overthink it, just go with the flow, and things will even out for you, Brain needs to adjust to lower dose, I had that happen, and it got better. So happy for you My Friend. 💖 Peace and Healing Hugs Love to Bonbon.

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Thanks dear Bg ! I know this but today i could use your reassurance… not having a good day today...but i tought a whole hour of Zumba yesterday so maybe that's causing my emotional rollercoaster and breathing issues again. I'm trying to keep in mind that it will pass ! Big hug from me & my sweetest Bonbon xxx

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Thanks dear Bg ! I know this but today i could use your reassurance… not having a good day today...but i tought a whole hour of Zumba yesterday so maybe that's causing my emotional rollercoaster and breathing issues again. I'm trying to keep in mind that it will pass ! Big hug from me & my sweetest Bonbon xxx

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Thanks dear Bg ! I know this but today i could use your reassurance… not having a good day today...but i tought a whole hour of Zumba yesterday so maybe that's causing my emotional rollercoaster and breathing issues again. I'm trying to keep in mind that it will pass ! Big hug from me & my sweetest Bonbon xxx

Hey Shake..!!

Congrats..!!  -Great to see u pop in, but sorry for the bad days...

I know you will get through though..

I Know what a bit of riding at the wrong time does to my sx.. But its all part of healing and life..

Best wishes and good healing..