XANAX Support Blog: If you're tapering Xanax/alprazolam, join in the discussion!

[[VC...]]

I'd go back to my regular dosing schedule, VC.  I'd probably not do a micro reduction today though, just to be on the safe side.  Try not to beat yourself up over forgetting to take your full dose.  It's happened to a lot of buddies.  You're not alone.

 

Thank you, Juliea. Except for this snafu, my week was going relatively well. You can be sure I'll take my regular taper dose tonight. 

 

VC, I've done that, too A few times, actually! I just held for a couple days & was fine It was a lil goofy for a day (at most) is all

 

Take care,

Mrs.

 

Thank you for the encouragement, Mrs.! I'm trying to roll with it but it's been more than goofy. At any rate, things should calm down in a few days, hopefully. Thanks for the reassurance. Hope you're doing well!

 

VC 

 

 

woiuld it be better if i saw a specialist instead of seeing the psychiatrist i see that gives me xanax to help me with the tapering or give me diazapam to help me with withdrawals ?

 

seems like some days i do well taking 0.0625 mg a day-36 hours then i feel yucky sudeenly and i take 0.125mg like early this morning around 5am

 

Babyangel, I'm a little confused. I thought you already tapered off the xanax at one point and did pretty well over all.

 

I can share this much, last year when I managed to taper off my xanax completely for a whole month, I wish I'd never touched it again, and instead, learned other ways to help my insomnia. Sporadic dosing messed me up. Please consider looking into whatever might be contributing to your anxiety. There are so many wonderful resources available. Benzos seem to help in the beginning but as many of us here on BB will testify, benzos also worsen the anxiety later, keeping us enslaved to a pill. I'd rather be healthy and free again.

 

Hugs,

VC 

 

 

Rabbit and Synapskills, how you doing this weekend? 

 

V 

[[ba...]]

VCharis like 2-3 weeks ago i "jumped" after a few days of taking 0.0625 mg from taking .125mg around 6 months , i felt fine like i didnt need meds but on my third day i started feeling terrible so i reinstated my meds i was smoking quite alot on the 3rd day that couldve been the reason why i was unsuccessfull

[[Ra...]]

Hi V, oh geez, I'm sorry you've got a kink in your taper.  I think Julia and Mrs. have it right, just continue on like nothing happened except maybe holding for a couple of days. 

 

I'm doing pretty well, I cut again last Friday night (5th cut) and the tinnitus in my left ear is pretty continuous now.  Hope it settles down. 

 

I'm so glad to hear that you've been doing fairly well except for this latest snafoo.  I pray everything gets back to normal for you (what's normal?).

 

Mrs. glad to see you.  I hope you are doing OK.

 

Juliea, a question to you. . .for those who choose to taper from Xanax or Ativan, I've 'talked' to a couple others and we feel that if we can make it through our tapers in pretty good shape and do a sensible taper, that the healing process post jump may be shorter (and less of an event) for us than those on valium due to the much shorter half live of the shorter acting benzos compared to valium.  Is this flawed thinking?

 

Hugs to all,

 

Rabbit

[[Sy...]]

Hey, guys/gals

This is gonna be quick. Feel like crap.  I stupidly Again cut back, this about 6 days or so after my last .5 cut. I started getting frustrated and thought .25 was to slow. I knew better but i always try to hack my body push hard way to quick. I am willing to f'n go throught hell just to get going again... Tonight the brain crap like bad trppin all came back. I feel so depressed. I wish i could just sleep. I found an old stash of methadone, It was a quick flash of horror and contemplation. I quicky dumped it! I just need a break, but I can't go backwards. uhhhhg I wan't my life back! With NO PILLS nothing!  *SIGH.

 

So I just reinstated my .5 back,  because tomorrow I find out what my pDoc is willing to do if anything to help. Im not cutting any more than .25 a week now but wonder if this will happen every time, and thats pushing it till i get to 2.5mg. I JUST don't know, i'm not flipping out but feel just beaten. I gotta go lay down, sorry im just pissed, mostly at myself.

 

synap

[[Sy...]]

btw,

Hello V and -Rabbit I kind of had same thought.

Juliea, a question to you. . .for those who choose to taper from Xanax or Ativan, I've 'talked' to a couple others and we feel that if we can make it through our tapers in pretty good shape and do a sensible taper, that the healing process post jump may be shorter (and less of an event) for us than those on valium due to the much shorter half live of the shorter acting benzos compared to valium.  Is this flawed thinking?

Im on the wall still about valium crossover at lower dose. If i ever get there.

synap

[[ba...]]

synap are you taking any supplements for your withdrawals , i feel a lil better from taking magnesium , vitamin b6 or b complex or some chamomille tea

[[Ju...]]

Juliea, a question to you. . .for those who choose to taper from Xanax or Ativan, I've 'talked' to a couple others and we feel that if we can make it through our tapers in pretty good shape and do a sensible taper, that the healing process post jump may be shorter (and less of an event) for us than those on valium due to the much shorter half live of the shorter acting benzos compared to valium.  Is this flawed thinking?

 

As you've probably noticed by my posts on the forum, I'm a fan of sticking with the original benzo, IF the person is able to manage tapering the original benzo in a sensible manner, without suffering unmanageable symptoms.  I believe our bodies like consistency during a benzo taper.  When introducing a new benzo, like Valium or whatever drug, the body is forced to adapt.  This adaptation may go well or for whatever reason, the body may not adapt well to the new drug.  This is the unknown quantity-- how will the body adapt.  Well or not so well.  I knew my body tolerated Xanax.  I did not know how my body would tolerate a new benzo with a lot of different benzo metabolites, so I wasn't keen on a crossover, for me personally.  As to whether or not this enabled me to jump and experience no acute withdrawal phase, I will never know for certain, but I believe that this did help me.  My body only had to adapt to one thing during my benzo taper and this was a slow reduction in the medicine.  I believe this helped me a great deal.  For others, who are experiencing a great deal of difficulty with the taper of their original benzo, a Valium crossover may be the key to allowing them to taper off successfully.

 

The thing I have noticed trending on the board is that Valium tapers seem to take some folks a lot longer than many of the folks tapering the short half life benzos.  That was one of the main reasons I wanted to stick with Xanax if it was at all possible.  I did not want a lengthy taper and my 9-month taper was plenty long for me.  It was sooooooooooo wonderful to jump and not have to get hit on day 4 or 5 after a dose reduction week after week.  Xanax was aggravating my nervous system and after stopping the aggravating factor was removed and I've felt better.  Every day I've had being free was much better than a single day I had while tapering. 

[[Mo...]]

Hey Julieau,  I am in the process of weaning of of Xanax XR.  It seems the lower I get the better I am starting to feel. I am a little worried about getting off of that last .5mg since it seems the lower doses are harder to wean off of.  Did you have any problems with that last .5mg?

 

Thanks,

Monique

 

 

[[Ju...]]

Hey Julieau,  I am in the process of weaning of of Xanax XR.  It seems the lower I get the better I am starting to feel. I am a little worried about getting off of that last .5mg since it seems the lower doses are harder to wean off of.  Did you have any problems with that last .5mg?

 

Thanks,

Monique

 

Hey Monique.  I felt better and better the lower in dose I got.  By the time I reached .25, I hardly experienced withdrawals from .25 to zero.  In fact, things let up greatly for me at .4375.  The lower in dose I very slowly got, the easier it was to taper for me. 

 

You're doing great. 

[[Mo...]]

Thanks Juliea,

 

That sounds encouraging.  I will just continue to do like I am doing.  The xanax helped me a lot but I didn't realize that it was what was causing me to feel so bad. 

 

[[Sy...]]

babyangel

synap are you taking any supplements for your withdrawals , i feel a lil better from taking magnesium , vitamin b6 or b complex or some chamomille tea

Yes I was taking a full spectrum of supplements. Everything from Mega B, kava, highlands leg cramp pm, L-tryptophan, melatonin, maca, tongkat Ali and more. I was using some for help with jumping off methadone, some for enhanced health. But now my body and mind seem to only be able to handle very simple herbs and unprocessed foods. I find that alot of that stuff was over stimulating. I can do the chamomille tea and melatonin. But for now the best thing is finding whole foods and slowing my roll on the taper. It is really the only relief i can get. I think drinking alot of water and really watching what i put in my body is key, our bodies are set to heal after trauma. Thats just where I am tho. What i feel comfortable with yaknow

 

synap

[[VC...]]

Hi Synapskills. Yeah, a lot of that stuff is way too stimulating for most. Some report that chamomile messes with our gaba receptors, too, and should probably be avoided in benzo recovery. But melatonin can be very helpful in small amounts. I'm finding success with tart cherry juice (natural melatonin). The other critical element for me is magnesium glycinate and Epsom salt baths. I so agree - these bodies were designed to heal. I'm sticking with organic whole foods as much as i can afford and avoiding processed. That's where the MSG hides out...hehe...

 

 

 

 

[[ba...]]

Miss Juliea i have a question when you quit taking xanax did you have the XR , Monique reminded me that there was an extended release kind of xaanx which is different than the non XR  one i have now

[[Ju...]]

No babyangel, I just had the regular Xanax.  But please keep in mind that the lowest dose the XR's come in is .50mg.  Plus, the pills can't be cut and keep their timed release action in effect, from what I understand.

[[Ra...]]

Juliea, a question to you. . .for those who choose to taper from Xanax or Ativan, I've 'talked' to a couple others and we feel that if we can make it through our tapers in pretty good shape and do a sensible taper, that the healing process post jump may be shorter (and less of an event) for us than those on valium due to the much shorter half live of the shorter acting benzos compared to valium.  Is this flawed thinking?

 

As you've probably noticed by my posts on the forum, I'm a fan of sticking with the original benzo, IF the person is able to manage tapering the original benzo in a sensible manner, without suffering unmanageable symptoms.  I believe our bodies like consistency during a benzo taper.  When introducing a new benzo, like Valium or whatever drug, the body is forced to adapt.  This adaptation may go well or for whatever reason, the body may not adapt well to the new drug.  This is the unknown quantity-- how will the body adapt.  Well or not so well.  I knew my body tolerated Xanax.  I did not know how my body would tolerate a new benzo with a lot of different benzo metabolites, so I wasn't keen on a crossover, for me personally.  As to whether or not this enabled me to jump and experience no acute withdrawal phase, I will never know for certain, but I believe that this did help me.  My body only had to adapt to one thing during my benzo taper and this was a slow reduction in the medicine.  I believe this helped me a great deal.  For others, who are experiencing a great deal of difficulty with the taper of their original benzo, a Valium crossover may be the key to allowing them to taper off successfully.

 

The thing I have noticed trending on the board is that Valium tapers seem to take some folks a lot longer than many of the folks tapering the short half life benzos.  That was one of the main reasons I wanted to stick with Xanax if it was at all possible.  I did not want a lengthy taper and my 9-month taper was plenty long for me.  It was sooooooooooo wonderful to jump and not have to get hit on day 4 or 5 after a dose reduction week after week.  Xanax was aggravating my nervous system and after stopping the aggravating factor was removed and I've felt better.  Every day I've had being free was much better than a single day I had while tapering. 

 

Thank you Juliea, I know I've asked for reassurance from you before and I appreciate it EVERY time.  I know one can never know how it will work out.  I'm early in my taper and so far so good.  My main symptom is tinnitus the first couple of days after a cut.  Heaven knows, if that's all I get I will be tickled pink.  It seems there are very few who can taper with few symptoms.  I just hope I get lucky    If I continue at the .0625mg cuts, it will take me 2 years, that's a LONG time.  I'm scared to make larger cuts for fear that symptoms will rev up and it will be hard to real it back in.  That acute period I went through was SO awful, I have no wish to experience that again and I will do anything to avoid it.  I'm not looking forward to this long taper, but if I can do it with minimal symptoms I'm OK with that.  2 months down, 22 more to go    Thank you for your never ending support!

 

Rabbit

[[ba...]]

Juliea, a question to you. . .for those who choose to taper from Xanax or Ativan, I've 'talked' to a couple others and we feel that if we can make it through our tapers in pretty good shape and do a sensible taper, that the healing process post jump may be shorter (and less of an event) for us than those on valium due to the much shorter half live of the shorter acting benzos compared to valium.  Is this flawed thinking?

 

As you've probably noticed by my posts on the forum, I'm a fan of sticking with the original benzo, IF the person is able to manage tapering the original benzo in a sensible manner, without suffering unmanageable symptoms.  I believe our bodies like consistency during a benzo taper.  When introducing a new benzo, like Valium or whatever drug, the body is forced to adapt.  This adaptation may go well or for whatever reason, the body may not adapt well to the new drug.  This is the unknown quantity-- how will the body adapt.  Well or not so well.  I knew my body tolerated Xanax.  I did not know how my body would tolerate a new benzo with a lot of different benzo metabolites, so I wasn't keen on a crossover, for me personally.  As to whether or not this enabled me to jump and experience no acute withdrawal phase, I will never know for certain, but I believe that this did help me.  My body only had to adapt to one thing during my benzo taper and this was a slow reduction in the medicine.  I believe this helped me a great deal.  For others, who are experiencing a great deal of difficulty with the taper of their original benzo, a Valium crossover may be the key to allowing them to taper off successfully.

 

The thing I have noticed trending on the board is that Valium tapers seem to take some folks a lot longer than many of the folks tapering the short half life benzos.  That was one of the main reasons I wanted to stick with Xanax if it was at all possible.  I did not want a lengthy taper and my 9-month taper was plenty long for me.  It was sooooooooooo wonderful to jump and not have to get hit on day 4 or 5 after a dose reduction week after week.  Xanax was aggravating my nervous system and after stopping the aggravating factor was removed and I've felt better.  Every day I've had being free was much better than a single day I had while tapering. 

 

Thank you Juliea, I know I've asked for reassurance from you before and I appreciate it EVERY time.  I know one can never know how it will work out.  I'm early in my taper and so far so good.  My main symptom is tinnitus the first couple of days after a cut.  Heaven knows, if that's all I get I will be tickled pink.  It seems there are very few who can taper with few symptoms.  I just hope I get lucky    If I continue at the .0625mg cuts, it will take me 2 years, that's a LONG time.  I'm scared to make larger cuts for fear that symptoms will rev up and it will be hard to real it back in.  That acute period I went through was SO awful, I have no wish to experience that again and I will do anything to avoid it.  I'm not looking forward to this long taper, but if I can do it with minimal symptoms I'm OK with that.  2 months down, 22 more to go    Thank you for your never ending support!

 

Rabbit

 

Hi Rabbit,

 

Slow is good.  If you can remain functional, so what if you need to take 2-3 years?  I wanted off and I'm paying for it.  You just don't want to be where I'm at now. 

 

[[Ra...]]

Juliea, a question to you. . .for those who choose to taper from Xanax or Ativan, I've 'talked' to a couple others and we feel that if we can make it through our tapers in pretty good shape and do a sensible taper, that the healing process post jump may be shorter (and less of an event) for us than those on valium due to the much shorter half live of the shorter acting benzos compared to valium.  Is this flawed thinking?

 

As you've probably noticed by my posts on the forum, I'm a fan of sticking with the original benzo, IF the person is able to manage tapering the original benzo in a sensible manner, without suffering unmanageable symptoms.  I believe our bodies like consistency during a benzo taper.  When introducing a new benzo, like Valium or whatever drug, the body is forced to adapt.  This adaptation may go well or for whatever reason, the body may not adapt well to the new drug.  This is the unknown quantity-- how will the body adapt.  Well or not so well.  I knew my body tolerated Xanax.  I did not know how my body would tolerate a new benzo with a lot of different benzo metabolites, so I wasn't keen on a crossover, for me personally.  As to whether or not this enabled me to jump and experience no acute withdrawal phase, I will never know for certain, but I believe that this did help me.  My body only had to adapt to one thing during my benzo taper and this was a slow reduction in the medicine.  I believe this helped me a great deal.  For others, who are experiencing a great deal of difficulty with the taper of their original benzo, a Valium crossover may be the key to allowing them to taper off successfully.

 

The thing I have noticed trending on the board is that Valium tapers seem to take some folks a lot longer than many of the folks tapering the short half life benzos.  That was one of the main reasons I wanted to stick with Xanax if it was at all possible.  I did not want a lengthy taper and my 9-month taper was plenty long for me.  It was sooooooooooo wonderful to jump and not have to get hit on day 4 or 5 after a dose reduction week after week.  Xanax was aggravating my nervous system and after stopping the aggravating factor was removed and I've felt better.  Every day I've had being free was much better than a single day I had while tapering. 

 

Thank you Juliea, I know I've asked for reassurance from you before and I appreciate it EVERY time.  I know one can never know how it will work out.  I'm early in my taper and so far so good.  My main symptom is tinnitus the first couple of days after a cut.  Heaven knows, if that's all I get I will be tickled pink.  It seems there are very few who can taper with few symptoms.  I just hope I get lucky    If I continue at the .0625mg cuts, it will take me 2 years, that's a LONG time.  I'm scared to make larger cuts for fear that symptoms will rev up and it will be hard to real it back in.  That acute period I went through was SO awful, I have no wish to experience that again and I will do anything to avoid it.  I'm not looking forward to this long taper, but if I can do it with minimal symptoms I'm OK with that.  2 months down, 22 more to go    Thank you for your never ending support!

 

Rabbit

 

Hi Rabbit,

 

Slow is good.  If you can remain functional, so what if you need to take 2-3 years?  I wanted off and I'm paying for it.  You just don't want to be where I'm at now. 

 

 

 

Hi Baby,

 

I think I've asked this before, but how long was your taper and how did you do it,  dry cut, LT, ect. 

 

Thank you for weighing in, I appreciate it!  I do hope you are feeling some better.

 

[[ba...]]

Juliea, a question to you. . .for those who choose to taper from Xanax or Ativan, I've 'talked' to a couple others and we feel that if we can make it through our tapers in pretty good shape and do a sensible taper, that the healing process post jump may be shorter (and less of an event) for us than those on valium due to the much shorter half live of the shorter acting benzos compared to valium.  Is this flawed thinking?

 

As you've probably noticed by my posts on the forum, I'm a fan of sticking with the original benzo, IF the person is able to manage tapering the original benzo in a sensible manner, without suffering unmanageable symptoms.  I believe our bodies like consistency during a benzo taper.  When introducing a new benzo, like Valium or whatever drug, the body is forced to adapt.  This adaptation may go well or for whatever reason, the body may not adapt well to the new drug.  This is the unknown quantity-- how will the body adapt.  Well or not so well.  I knew my body tolerated Xanax.  I did not know how my body would tolerate a new benzo with a lot of different benzo metabolites, so I wasn't keen on a crossover, for me personally.  As to whether or not this enabled me to jump and experience no acute withdrawal phase, I will never know for certain, but I believe that this did help me.  My body only had to adapt to one thing during my benzo taper and this was a slow reduction in the medicine.  I believe this helped me a great deal.  For others, who are experiencing a great deal of difficulty with the taper of their original benzo, a Valium crossover may be the key to allowing them to taper off successfully.

 

The thing I have noticed trending on the board is that Valium tapers seem to take some folks a lot longer than many of the folks tapering the short half life benzos.  That was one of the main reasons I wanted to stick with Xanax if it was at all possible.  I did not want a lengthy taper and my 9-month taper was plenty long for me.  It was sooooooooooo wonderful to jump and not have to get hit on day 4 or 5 after a dose reduction week after week.  Xanax was aggravating my nervous system and after stopping the aggravating factor was removed and I've felt better.  Every day I've had being free was much better than a single day I had while tapering. 

 

Thank you Juliea, I know I've asked for reassurance from you before and I appreciate it EVERY time.  I know one can never know how it will work out.  I'm early in my taper and so far so good.  My main symptom is tinnitus the first couple of days after a cut.  Heaven knows, if that's all I get I will be tickled pink.  It seems there are very few who can taper with few symptoms.  I just hope I get lucky    If I continue at the .0625mg cuts, it will take me 2 years, that's a LONG time.  I'm scared to make larger cuts for fear that symptoms will rev up and it will be hard to real it back in.  That acute period I went through was SO awful, I have no wish to experience that again and I will do anything to avoid it.  I'm not looking forward to this long taper, but if I can do it with minimal symptoms I'm OK with that.  2 months down, 22 more to go    Thank you for your never ending support!

 

Rabbit

 

Hi Rabbit,

 

Slow is good.  If you can remain functional, so what if you need to take 2-3 years?  I wanted off and I'm paying for it.  You just don't want to be where I'm at now. 

 

 

 

Hi Baby,

 

I think I've asked this before, but how long was your taper and how did you do it,  dry cut, LT, ect. 

 

Thank you for weighing in, I appreciate it!  I do hope you are feeling some better.

 

 

Hi Rabbit,

 

I want you to succeed.  There is no way one can say how a taper will evolve, but for me it was brutal. 

 

I erased my signature because no one else's taper and symptoms will play out.  Some get off easy, others not.  I spent way too much time trying to match a pattern to other buddies symptoms.  Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.

 

I am nearing the 15 month mark.  I'm doing better than I was during taper and acute, but not much.  Still, it's headed in the right direction.  After an 11 month taper, I'm at 30 % at this time.  Not fun, but what choice do I have?

 

Anecdotal evidence would suggest you will have a much easier time. 

 

[[mr...]]

Hi baby Been missing you girl.

 

15 months for Babyrex means: 11 month taper and 4 months benzo free, correct? Or have you been 15 months benzo free already? If so, my apologies on missing your 1-year anniversary girl. You're getting there, for sure. This healing bidnaz takes time is all

 

Rabbit, I'm with 'Rex & Juliea on formulating a taper plan that suites your needs & keeps you healthy & fairly asymptomatic. A slow & steady taper does not necessarily mean symptom free, and there have been some challenging times, but it has been an overall blessing. The CNS will heal nonetheless, but I believe that following a taper plan that suites your body's (or CNS's) needs & timeframes allows for a much gentler & calmer approach to desensitize a potentially (temporarily) damaged CNS. Like I said before, it may not be symptom-free or "easy", but it has proved to be gentler and has helped me to evade and/or lessen some if the symptoms I've read about. A blessing.

 

Kudos to you, Rabbit Sounds like you know what you want to accomplish with what you're doing That's what is most important!

 

Time for bed for Mrs. Sleep well, all Take care,

 

Mrs.

[[Mo...]]

Hey Rabbit,

 

Don't be discourage about how long your taper with last.  As long as you are cutting your dose you are moving in the right direction.  I think they are many people out there that got off of benzos without much problem, just listen to your body with your cuts.  Try to read the positive and stay away from the negative and you will be fine. 

[[VC...]]

Hey Rabbit,

 

Don't be discourage about how long your taper with last.  As long as you are cutting your dose you are moving in the right direction.  I think they are many people out there that got off of benzos without much problem, just listen to your body with your cuts.  Try to read the positive and stay away from the negative and you will be fine. 

 

Rabbit, I so agree with Monique here, as well as Mrs., Juliea, B'rex. After talking to scores of people coming off benzos, those who have faired well are the ones who listened to their bodies and adjusted their taper accordingly.  I'm certainly learning the fine art of tapering as I go along .... especially after being so unstable for months and months. Starting from a place of stability is good, and you seem to progressing well. I hope all the  encouragement here helps. The body is designed to heal, given the right conditions. You're gonna do this! You're on the right track, my friend. Slow and easy.

 

Love,

V 

[[Up...]]

Just thought I would say hi as I should probably join in here.

 

Short xanax story, but suffering from it nonetheless. I have been off balance with a floating and heavy head since I started taking it. I mean non stop! Really I would already be satisfied as long as I could get rid of this floaty feeling 

 

Upsydaisy

[[je...]]

Hi all, just wondering if anyone has experience with stopping Xanax at .125 mg? I am just so tired of all this! Any help is appreciated!

[[Ra...]]

Hi Jenny,

 

I don't know anyone who has jumped at .125, but I'm sure there are some on this board.  I'm just super conservative and not in a hurry to get off.  I'd rather get off slower and be less symptomatic as I HAVE to work.  Can you do one more cut to .0625?  You kinda need the .25mg tabs to do this if you are dry cutting, but I would certainly recommend that if you can.

 

Best wishes

 

Rabbit

[[Ra...]]

Thank you Julia, V, BabyRex, Mrs and Monique, I DO sincerely appreciate all the support from you ladies.  I try to think positive, but it's hard when you read stories of this unlinear healing process, and not knowing if you will have an easier time at the beginning or the end.  I keep HOPING and PRAYING for all I'm worth that I'm one of the lucky ones who won't have much difficulty.  I think with Xanax, since it's so short acting, it's easier to keep track of the w/d symptoms and not have to worry about getting whacked a week after you cut.  My pattern seems to be that I get hit with tinnitus for at least 2 days directly after I cut.  I cut on Friday nights and last Sat and Sun had tinnitus all day.  Today a little bit, but not bad.

 

Thank you again ladies for all your support.  It really does help.  I told my therapist about this board and she asked why I went on here and I told her for support.  To be with other folks going through the same thing to offer support where I can and to ask for support when I need it.  She thought that was a good thing.

 

Hugs ladies,

 

Rabbit