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Hey guys,

 

My jaw has been unbelievable tight throughout this ordeal and my bite has settled into a misalignment.  Does anyone else have/had this problem and will it correct itself or am I in for a round of braces?!?  It's horrible. 

 

Please let me know if you have heard of or experienced this.

 

Thanks,

M

 

 

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It's all the RATM. I'm kidding MarthaKicks.

 

Yes, I have had this symptom before. I still have it.

The tightness and sometimes my jaw pops.

Also, my teeth feel like they pop at times.

 

I think it's withdrawal, and yes, it will correct itself.

 

I have seen too much of this not to be withdrawal.

 

Others will chime in as well.

 

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My jaw has been painful and out of alignment, and the past 2 weeks, I've had to keep my mouth almost shut when eating.  Also, ran out of my favourite gum, so that helps. 

 

The pain is almost gone now

 

Kat

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I can't remember the exact threads - I think one was "TMJ Like Symptoms" - anyway we were having a discussion about these jaw sx's and a few people said theirs disappeared completely.  That was so reassuring!
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I can't remember the exact threads - I think one was "TMJ Like Symptoms" - anyway we were having a discussion about these jaw sx's and a few people said theirs disappeared completely.  That was so reassuring!

 

Thanks Perseverance, I'll look for the TMJ thread.  It's so messed up--when I close my mouth, my bite is completely off and I can't make it sit straight.

My jaw has been painful and out of alignment, and the past 2 weeks, I've had to keep my mouth almost shut when eating.  Also, ran out of my favourite gum, so that helps. 

 

The pain is almost gone now

 

Kat

 

I dont have any pain, just a misalignment of the teeth.  Did you have TMJ troubles in the past, before benzos?  I did, years ago and I wear a bite guard at night...this is NOT what I need right now.

 

It's all the RATM. I'm kidding MarthaKicks.

 

Yes, I have had this symptom before. I still have it.

The tightness and sometimes my jaw pops.

Also, my teeth feel like they pop at times.

 

I think it's withdrawal, and yes, it will correct itself.

 

I have seen too much of this not to be withdrawal.

 

Others will chime in as well.

 

S#

 

I gotta go listen to some RATM right now to get this crazy symptom off my mind! 

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I gotta go listen to some RATM right now to get this crazy symptom off my mind! 

 

It's about Malcolm X, he was an inspiration.

 

If that's what calms you down, then I guess go for it. :)

 

I can't remember the exact threads - I think one was "TMJ Like Symptoms" - anyway we were having a discussion about these jaw sx's and a few people said theirs disappeared completely.  That was so reassuring!

 

I think it disappears because I had it worse when I first started tapering, and now it has decreased in intensity.

Yes, it's like TMJ, well, from what I have read.

 

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Just to let you know because we didn't discuss this in the other threads - my teeth themselves do feel out of alignment, like they shifted.  It comes and goes.  So annoying!
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I couldn't find a current thread that was pertinent to my situation. 

 

Just to let you know because we didn't discuss this in the other threads - my teeth themselves do feel out of alignment, like they shifted.  It comes and goes.  So annoying!

 

It's reassuring to know that it comes and goes--I hope mine goes as well.  :)

 

I gotta go listen to some RATM right now to get this crazy symptom off my mind! 

 

It's about Malcolm X, he was an inspiration.

 

If that's what calms you down, then I guess go for it. :)

 

I can't remember the exact threads - I think one was "TMJ Like Symptoms" - anyway we were having a discussion about these jaw sx's and a few people said theirs disappeared completely.  That was so reassuring!

 

I think it disappears because I had it worse when I first started tapering, and now it has decreased in intensity.

Yes, it's like TMJ, well, from what I have read.

 

S#

 

Calming?  no, but very distracting!  these symptoms suck--I need to "Take The Power Back!"

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This is incredible... i have been struggling with TMJ pain all the time I've been on klonopin. I was actually diagnosed with TMJ. Here's to hoping it will correct itself...
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Yea me too Holly.  I was on benzos for 20 years.  I swear I do not remember ever having TMJ before I took them.  I was so very hopeful when people told me all their TMJ sx's disappeared.  I think mine will too because after Detox my TMJ became worse.  I am taking that as a good sign that the TMJ was probably benzo induced all along.
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This is incredible... i have been struggling with TMJ pain all the time I've been on klonopin. I was actually diagnosed with TMJ. Here's to hoping it will correct itself...

 

You, too?  Ugh--this is weird.  I did read on the internet that they use benzodiazepines to correct this which is encouraging. 

 

Yea me too Holly.  I was on benzos for 20 years.  I swear I do not remember ever having TMJ before I took them.  I was so very hopeful when people told me all their TMJ sx's disappeared.  I think mine will too because after Detox my TMJ became worse.  I am taking that as a good sign that the TMJ was probably benzo induced all along.

 

my recent post on my blog:

 

My bite has settled into a misalignment.  It looks like an open bite, where my back teeth close before my front teeth can touch.  It's not noticeable to the general public and is only noticed when I point it out.  I've had trouble with TMJ in the past and wear a top and bottom night guard for bruxism (teeth grinding).  It locked open once when I was in my early 20's and I did wear braces in my teens for approximately 14 months.  I am worried that this may only correct with another go at orthodontics.  I admit that I am panicking a bit over this--the fear of the unknown is horrible.  It may self correct, and my jaw may be just locked in a funny position but I doubt it.  I haven't found anything on the internet that states this could be due to the benzo withdrawal but I know that my jaw has been severely affected since my inter-dose withdrawal and cold turkey.

 

more information on the open bite:  http://www.doctorknows.com/open-bite

 

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This is incredible... i have been struggling with TMJ pain all the time I've been on klonopin. I was actually diagnosed with TMJ. Here's to hoping it will correct itself...

 

You, too?  Ugh--this is weird.  I did read on the internet that they use benzodiazepines to correct this which is encouraging. 

 

Yea me too Holly.  I was on benzos for 20 years.  I swear I do not remember ever having TMJ before I took them.  I was so very hopeful when people told me all their TMJ sx's disappeared.  I think mine will too because after Detox my TMJ became worse.  I am taking that as a good sign that the TMJ was probably benzo induced all along.

 

my recent post on my blog:

 

My bite has settled into a misalignment.  It looks like an open bite, where my back teeth close before my front teeth can touch.  It's not noticeable to the general public and is only noticed when I point it out.  I've had trouble with TMJ in the past and wear a top and bottom night guard for bruxism (teeth grinding).  It locked open once when I was in my early 20's and I did wear braces in my teens for approximately 14 months.  I am worried that this may only correct with another go at orthodontics.  I admit that I am panicking a bit over this--the fear of the unknown is horrible.  It may self correct, and my jaw may be just locked in a funny position but I doubt it.  I haven't found anything on the internet that states this could be due to the benzo withdrawal but I know that my jaw has been severely affected since my inter-dose withdrawal and cold turkey.

 

more information on the open bite:  http://www.doctorknows.com/open-bite

 

 

I've contradicted myself a bit here.  What I meant to say was that they use benzodiazepines for TMJ but an open-mouth bite is corrected by orthodontics or surgery.  I'll contact the dentist and try to get in as soon as possible.  I'll post updates. 

 

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I had terrible jaw pain when I first started withdrawing.  I went to my dentist and an orthodontist who said I had TMJ and a cross bite.  I then went to a chiropractor who specializes in TMJ and he was able to adjust my jaw back into place so the pain would go away.  I would have it done several times a month for about 6 months.  I also started wearing a night guard.  I can now say the pain is gone and has been for about a month.  I no longer wear the night guard and I haven't had to go to the chiropractor for about a month.  This is the first symptom that has disappeared so far.  Good luck!
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I had terrible jaw pain when I first started withdrawing.  I went to my dentist and an orthodontist who said I had TMJ and a cross bite.  I then went to a chiropractor who specializes in TMJ and he was able to adjust my jaw back into place so the pain would go away.  I would have it done several times a month for about 6 months.  I also started wearing a night guard.  I can now say the pain is gone and has been for about a month.  I no longer wear the night guard and I haven't had to go to the chiropractor for about a month.  This is the first symptom that has disappeared so far.  Good luck!

I too tried to have mine treated by a doctor who would manipulate the jaw (and neck, where i was also hurting very badly). She really helped me with the neck pain, but the jaw didn't see any improvement. Also saw a tmj specialist dentist who made a kind of "brace" for me to wear at night. I tried to wear it for a long time, but it was just way too painful the way it pulled my jaw forward and stretched the muscles. it HURT! So I stopped using it.  i've just been living with the pain ever since

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The TMJ sx's I have had since the beginning of my taper, but strange to me, it's starting to fade, so it is indeed the Benzo doing it.

I never had TMJ before Benzos, and hopefully it will keep fading.

 

 

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I have a dental appointment tomorrow morning.  I'm looking forward to the visit.

 

A friend of mine who is a dentist in Syria told me that my jaw misplacement be fixed with a dental device.  He then said I would need an injection of muscle relaxants, to which I responded, "NOOOOO!" 

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I remember the exact moment in a yoga class last fall, just as I was finishing my taper, when I became 'aware' of my mouth, and not in a good way. from that point on, there have been few days/moments of days where my mouth has felt 'normal'.  It has been a nightmare, within the greater living nightmare of BZ withdrawal. I have spent three of the last 9 months on a soft/blenderized diet. My jaw is so 'misaligned' that it is way too painful to chew some days.  Some days just my back teeth hit, some days it's just my front teeth. I had to get fitted for a new night guard last October, just as this was all starting.  I realized I had done so much damage to my teeth and had lost a lot of enamel and had a lot of gum recession from grinding, and I needed to be wearing a night guard. I was between a rock and a hard place, because I knew, intuitively, that getting molds of my teeth when this movement of my teeth was occurring, would not be good. but i had no choice. the first night guard I had made, for $600, was so ill fitting when I got it, that after a number of 'adjustments' made by the dentist, she finally called the laboratory and they said they'd make a new one. So new molds were taken of my teeth and now, months later, I have a very hard time wearing it throughout the night. I have had a dozen or more adjustments to it, where they grind part of it away, and i am going again on wednesday. It is pushing on my gums, in the back of my teeth, causing my gums to recede.  This whole ordeal has been nauseatingly stressful for me, and my teeth/mouth/gums/bite/tooth pain and sensitivity/dry mouth/WEIRD feelings in my mouth/lips sticking to my teeth/trouble speaking is better than it was but it is not going away.  I am starting to doubt if it ever will. I think last fall when this came on and hit me like a mack truck, and I KNEW my teeth were moving, they started to feel loose and move around, especially if i drank something cold...I researched it on this site, I think..anyway, I came across info stating there's a theory that people who have had a traumatic brain injury have issues with their teeth shifting/their bite being affected.  And as far as I'm concerned, I and we all are suffering from a chemically induced traumatic brain injury.  Some days i feel like there is a C clamp tightening around my upper jaw. the pressure is unbearable.  today all my food was liquid, i was having so much tooth pain and my bite is SO off that I cannot chew.  And I am almost 8 months off.  this is inhumane.  
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My jaw has been painful and out of alignment, and the past 2 weeks, I've had to keep my mouth almost shut when eating.  Also, ran out of my favourite gum, so that helps. 

 

The pain is almost gone now

 

Kat

 

 

I dont have any pain, just a misalignment of the teeth.  Did you have TMJ troubles in the past, before benzos?  I did, years ago and I wear a bite guard at night...this is NOT what I need right now.

 

 

I did have problems before benzo w/d, but it has improved a lot lately, and getting better every day.

Kat

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...the first night guard I had made, for $600, was so ill fitting when I got it, that after a number of 'adjustments' made by the dentist, she finally called the laboratory and they said they'd make a new one. So new molds were taken of my teeth and now, months later, I have a very hard time wearing it throughout the night. I have had a dozen or more adjustments to it, where they grind part of it away, and i am going again on wednesday...

 

JJKale,

 

My teeth started doing weird things way back when I was in tolerance w/d.  I got tired of having to keep either getting new night guards from my dentist or modifying the ones I had, plus it was expensive.

 

I finally found a product in the drug store that was only $20.00 a pop and seemed to be more comfortable to wear.  It is called "The Doctor's Night Guard Advanced Comfort."  You drop it into boiling water, let it cool slightly, then place it in your mouth and bite down.  It molds to the shape of you teeth.

 

Each time I need a new one it only costs me $20.00 now and I can do it at my own convenience, no waiting.  Maybe this would help you too.

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My jaw has been painful and out of alignment, and the past 2 weeks, I've had to keep my mouth almost shut when eating.  Also, ran out of my favourite gum, so that helps. 

 

The pain is almost gone now

 

Kat

 

 

 

 

I dont have any pain, just a misalignment of the teeth.  Did you have TMJ troubles in the past, before benzos?  I did, years ago and I wear a bite guard at night...this is NOT what I need right now.

 

 

I did have problems before benzo w/d, but it has improved a lot lately, and getting better every day.

Kat

 

Glad it's getting better Kat.  That's great.

 

 

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I had to cancel my dental appointment this morning.  Migraine with vomiting.  I'll reschedule and let you know what the dentist recommends.

 

 

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hey Perseverance,

thanks for the tip...i will see what happens after tomorrow's dentist apt and maybe i'll try it if it continues to press on my gums.  sorry you are also having issues with your teeth, it sucks.  :-\

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JJKale,

 

I am sorry you have teeth issues, too.  You are doing the right thing in wearing the night guard

 

I remember the exact moment in a yoga class last fall, just as I was finishing my taper, when I became 'aware' of my mouth, and not in a good way. from that point on, there have been few days/moments of days where my mouth has felt 'normal'.  It has been a nightmare, within the greater living nightmare of BZ withdrawal. I have spent three of the last 9 months on a soft/blenderized diet. My jaw is so 'misaligned' that it is way too painful to chew some days.  Some days just my back teeth hit, some days it's just my front teeth. I had to get fitted for a new night guard last October, just as this was all starting.  I realized I had done so much damage to my teeth and had lost a lot of enamel and had a lot of gum recession from grinding, and I needed to be wearing a night guard. I was between a rock and a hard place, because I knew, intuitively, that getting molds of my teeth when this movement of my teeth was occurring, would not be good. but i had no choice. the first night guard I had made, for $600, was so ill fitting when I got it, that after a number of 'adjustments' made by the dentist, she finally called the laboratory and they said they'd make a new one. So new molds were taken of my teeth and now, months later, I have a very hard time wearing it throughout the night. I have had a dozen or more adjustments to it, where they grind part of it away, and i am going again on wednesday. It is pushing on my gums, in the back of my teeth, causing my gums to recede.  This whole ordeal has been nauseatingly stressful for me, and my teeth/mouth/gums/bite/tooth pain and sensitivity/dry mouth/WEIRD feelings in my mouth/lips sticking to my teeth/trouble speaking is better than it was but it is not going away.  I am starting to doubt if it ever will. I think last fall when this came on and hit me like a mack truck, and I KNEW my teeth were moving, they started to feel loose and move around, especially if i drank something cold...I researched it on this site, I think..anyway, I came across info stating there's a theory that people who have had a traumatic brain injury have issues with their teeth shifting/their bite being affected.  And as far as I'm concerned, I and we all are suffering from a chemically induced traumatic brain injury.  Some days i feel like there is a C clamp tightening around my upper jaw. the pressure is unbearable.  today all my food was liquid, i was having so much tooth pain and my bite is SO off that I cannot chew.  And I am almost 8 months off.  this is inhumane. 

 

What has your dentist said about this?  re: And as far as I'm concerned, I and we all are suffering from a chemically induced traumatic brain injury.   this statement has been haunting me...

 

Let us know how your dental appointment goes tomorrow.

 

M

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JJKale,

 

I am sorry you have teeth issues, too.  You are doing the right thing in wearing the night guard

 

I remember the exact moment in a yoga class last fall, just as I was finishing my taper, when I became 'aware' of my mouth, and not in a good way. from that point on, there have been few days/moments of days where my mouth has felt 'normal'.  It has been a nightmare, within the greater living nightmare of BZ withdrawal. I have spent three of the last 9 months on a soft/blenderized diet. My jaw is so 'misaligned' that it is way too painful to chew some days.  Some days just my back teeth hit, some days it's just my front teeth. I had to get fitted for a new night guard last October, just as this was all starting.  I realized I had done so much damage to my teeth and had lost a lot of enamel and had a lot of gum recession from grinding, and I needed to be wearing a night guard. I was between a rock and a hard place, because I knew, intuitively, that getting molds of my teeth when this movement of my teeth was occurring, would not be good. but i had no choice. the first night guard I had made, for $600, was so ill fitting when I got it, that after a number of 'adjustments' made by the dentist, she finally called the laboratory and they said they'd make a new one. So new molds were taken of my teeth and now, months later, I have a very hard time wearing it throughout the night. I have had a dozen or more adjustments to it, where they grind part of it away, and i am going again on wednesday. It is pushing on my gums, in the back of my teeth, causing my gums to recede.  This whole ordeal has been nauseatingly stressful for me, and my teeth/mouth/gums/bite/tooth pain and sensitivity/dry mouth/WEIRD feelings in my mouth/lips sticking to my teeth/trouble speaking is better than it was but it is not going away.  I am starting to doubt if it ever will. I think last fall when this came on and hit me like a mack truck, and I KNEW my teeth were moving, they started to feel loose and move around, especially if i drank something cold...I researched it on this site, I think..anyway, I came across info stating there's a theory that people who have had a traumatic brain injury have issues with their teeth shifting/their bite being affected.  And as far as I'm concerned, I and we all are suffering from a chemically induced traumatic brain injury.  Some days i feel like there is a C clamp tightening around my upper jaw. the pressure is unbearable.  today all my food was liquid, i was having so much tooth pain and my bite is SO off that I cannot chew.  And I am almost 8 months off.  this is inhumane. 

 

What has your dentist said about this?  re: And as far as I'm concerned, I and we all are suffering from a chemically induced traumatic brain injury.   this statement has been haunting me...

 

Let us know how your dental appointment goes tomorrow.

 

M

Chemically-induced traumatic brain injury does take away a lot of the scary mysteriousness of it for me, though. Makes perfect sense. Now if we could only sue somebody for it so they stop giving more people brain injury!  :tickedoff:

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