12-18 month support

[[Sk...]]

I am sorry so many are  feeling so bad today.

 

Green, I read your update, things sound quite bad, but it's great to hear you are reacting.

 

Here, things are starting to get started.

 

Yesterday morning, we had the appointment with the notary to sign the agreement on the sale of the house. The actual sale will be in September.

 

Before signing, reading all that information on our house, almost made me choke up.

 

It was embarassing to notice I had no idea what was going on and that Mr Sky had to answer all the questions.

 

When they asked things about electricity bills, info on other utilities, I just turned to Mr Sky, waiting for him to answer. I feel so bad about having to make him do every single thing.

 

In the evening, we went to a concert  where this Youtube artist Kawehi, was performing. She was really good and so was her supporting act.

 

And during her performance, something amazing happened.

 

I almost forgot wd, almost and was clapping and cheering.

 

Except, I didn't really. I kept thinking I wanted to tell you guys about it !!

 

So, real healing would be me being in the moment, not even thinking about telling you guys. 

 

But, f or the moment, I will take this.

 

I have been so scared of music in wd and it was a pity, I love music.

 

Today is my bad day and we have done some  packing.

 

Tomorrow, we will be leaving to visit my mom and I will give her the news, she does not know about this thing we have done.

 

My heart has really been pounding badly today. I packed some stuff, the rest will be done when we get back.

 

I have been taking some vitamin C during the day, it seems to be helping.

 

I never know what to say when I hear how much everybody is suffering and how much. It's really outrageous.

 

Korbe, Beulah, Coop and Nova, you seem to be in a bad wave . You  are all in my thoughts and I hope you guys get better soon.

 

 

[[Te...]]

Yes Coop I've been seeing a gastro. Specialist....I've done a shallow test....showed I'm have spasms..which make sense to te wired taste...he said benzo woud help ..I lol..

I'm suppose to have a scoe done....just don't feel well enough to do one....anyway that's how I feel right know....but I'll do it this fall.....

Still have nasty taste that I feel comes from extracted tooth site...I swallow it or it bothers me...maybe I'm swallowing to much makes the taste come up from stomach....I've had so many test done I'm tired....

Burning gums mouth sometimes throat.....maybe have sjogrens....waiting on rheum apt

At times have tingles....muscle stiffness....chest tightness...causes shortness of breath at time..

Trying to make it thru each day...never know what mood I'll be in cause it changes everyday...

Seems like most everyone did a smart taper....I did one in two months....so worried I'll never heal...

I'm praying for healing....for everyone....sorry I'm babbling....hugs! TM

[[...]]

Hi all,

 

I'm so sorry a lot of you are being dragged through the thorny wasteland by your hair. I'm in good company then as I've been battling through this shit show with you. Get ready for a rant 

 

Managed to catch up with posts today after a little break from the board as I'm on a weeks leave from work and thought I would try to recharge my batteries and try to have a 'normal' time without the pressure of going to work. Well I'm in tantrum mode, totally sick of this craziness. It seems no matter what you do, how you try to help yourself there is no getting away from this and new sx are turning up ie heart palpitations. Not sure if I'm feeling worse because I went for a day out to York yesterday. I'd already told my daughter we would go, so was not going to let wd stop me. Had a decent day previous to this and I managed to get through a day in York even though it was busy and I felt dizzy, tingly, fatigued. At one point we went into a shop and it felt like the floor was moving beneath my feet!!! Had a bit of a panic and nearly cried but decided to try to ignore it and carried on walking round (after making a quick exit from shop). It passed.

 

Today I decided to try to take it easy; sit in the garden, go for a walk. Feel even worse, cannot think and my brain feels paralysed in fact typing this and making any sense is really hard;massive head pressure and neck stiffness. Breathing crap, pain etc.Feel like it's a lose, lose situation. Try to do things and you get wiped out, take it easy and your mind (well mine does) won't let you off the hook, constantly beating me up for not being able to do what I want to do. Idk, maybe I'm just not coping at the moment or I'm just in a wave and tuesday I got a little break. I do know that after a shaky start, I felt quite normal tuesday evening. Just feel like kicking, screaming and breaking things now  When I feel like this I get scared that I will finally crack up, oh and of course never get better. Yes acceptance has left the building.

 

I did speak to BTP yesterday as I was panicking about my day out. I spoke to a really helpful lady who is not only a psychologist, she has gone through wd herself (took 2 years to heal) and is not alarmed at anything I say at this stage (nearly 16 months). She said because the brain is not doing it's job properly and it is misfiring signals, creating symptoms which in turn causes negative thinking and then low mood etc. I will post something more in depth once/if I am ever able to think straight again. 

 

Wishing you all relief from this hideous journey  You are all so brave and we WILL get to the end and arrive at a new beginning.

[[...]]

See ha soon Beulah. 

 

Siggy-my sleep sucks.  I just don't write about it because it's the lesser of all my evils. Everyday I wake up around 4:30.  I also fall asleep in a few minutes from pure exhaustion but wake up many times each night.  I very rarely feel rested.

 

 

Ditto

[[...]]

I am sorry so many are  feeling so bad today.

 

Green, I read your update, things sound quite bad, but it's great to hear you are reacting.

 

Here, things are starting to get started.

 

Yesterday morning, we had the appointment with the notary to sign the agreement on the sale of the house. The actual sale will be in September.

 

Before signing, reading all that information on our house, almost made me choke up.

 

It was embarassing to notice I had no idea what was going on and that Mr Sky had to answer all the questions.

 

When they asked things about electricity bills, info on other utilities, I just turned to Mr Sky, waiting for him to answer. I feel so bad about having to make him do every single thing.

 

In the evening, we went to a concert  where this Youtube artist Kawehi, was performing. She was really good and so was her supporting act.

 

And during her performance, something amazing happened.

 

I almost forgot wd, almost and was clapping and cheering.

 

Except, I didn't really. I kept thinking I wanted to tell you guys about it !!

 

So, real healing would be me being in the moment, not even thinking about telling you guys. 

 

But, f or the moment, I will take this.

 

I have been so scared of music in wd and it was a pity, I love music.

 

Today is my bad day and we have done some  packing.

 

Tomorrow, we will be leaving to visit my mom and I will give her the news, she does not know about this thing we have done.

 

My heart has really been pounding badly today. I packed some stuff, the rest will be done when we get back.

 

I have been taking some vitamin C during the day, it seems to be helping.

 

I never know what to say when I hear how much everybody is suffering and how much. It's really outrageous.

 

Korbe, Beulah, Coop and Nova, you seem to be in a bad wave . You  are all in my thoughts and I hope you guys get better soon.

 

 

Sky, wondeful and encouraging that you could enjoy your concert and not think about wd. You are healing and so inspirational

 

Good luck with your packing. Moving home is such a stressful thing at the best of times 

[[dr...]]

Marj-trying to figure out what made things better or not is a fools game I'm guilty of playing even when I know rationally it doesn't matter. 

 

That update from BTP is helpful as always.

 

I'm on the couch with nausea and nerve paiin including teeth sensitivity which is a rare one for me. Onward we go.

[[Gr...]]

Green ... it is probably a little bit of everything ... they used to call it shell-shocked ... input overload ...

 

And perhaps, a very long perhaps ... the fatigue is a warning mechanism ... "slow down, I'm still working on this" ... who knows? ...

 

BTW ... I have a whole stack of get out of jail free warrants ... my bail bondsman keeps handing them out every time he visits me ... 

 

Nova, we're only three weeks apart.  I agree, there's a lot going on, I'm feeling it, I hear ya.  I also agree, the fatigue might be necessary to slow us down while the brain heals.

 

I'm still going to give the whey protein a shot.  Lots of people try lots of supplements this far out.  I've been extremely cautious, more than most.  it's only a milk product.  I can always discontinue if I rev.  My sleep is already messed up, so no worries there.

 

I get crazy when I can't take a little walk, lol, for too many days.  doesn't have to be a long, vigorous walk, I just need to get out.  And I did get out, took my walk, so hopefully I won't be ranting for awhile.

[[Si...]]

Yeah drew I'm worn out all the time too. I have a terrible time trying to fall asleep. Most if the time I can fall back asleep if I wake up. Sometimes when I wake up my head hurts really bad. I had a break down again this morning when my wife's alarm went off. I don't know if it's just my brain in overdrive trying to repair as much as possible while I'm asleep? I'd like to think so.

 

Sky, I'm glad you got to go to a concert and enjoy it some.

 

Marj I know all about the constant doubting about healing. It's a constant thought in my head too. Drew and I aren't too much behind you at 15 months. Hoping we see big improvements soon!

 

I just want everyone here to know how much I appreciate all the support. This is now one of the main threads I participate in.

[[Gr...]]

After all,

 

I'm in a weird pain wave and just not myself..so grouchy.

I'm going to take a break from here till I feel the wave ease up and I'm my same silly self.

 

Have the best day you can.

 

Beulah, feel better!  I was thinking of taking a break today, too, because I'm so upset and angry about my latest stuff.  Take all the time you need, feel better.  We really do lose our sense of humor this far out?

[[Gr...]]

I am sorry so many are  feeling so bad today.

 

Green, I read your update, things sound quite bad, but it's great to hear you are reacting.

 

Here, things are starting to get started.

 

Yesterday morning, we had the appointment with the notary to sign the agreement on the sale of the house. The actual sale will be in September.

 

Before signing, reading all that information on our house, almost made me choke up.

 

It was embarassing to notice I had no idea what was going on and that Mr Sky had to answer all the questions.

 

When they asked things about electricity bills, info on other utilities, I just turned to Mr Sky, waiting for him to answer. I feel so bad about having to make him do every single thing.

 

In the evening, we went to a concert  where this Youtube artist Kawehi, was performing. She was really good and so was her supporting act.

 

And during her performance, something amazing happened.

 

I almost forgot wd, almost and was clapping and cheering.

 

Except, I didn't really. I kept thinking I wanted to tell you guys about it !!

 

So, real healing would be me being in the moment, not even thinking about telling you guys. 

 

But, f or the moment, I will take this.

 

I have been so scared of music in wd and it was a pity, I love music.

 

Today is my bad day and we have done some  packing.

 

Tomorrow, we will be leaving to visit my mom and I will give her the news, she does not know about this thing we have done.

 

My heart has really been pounding badly today. I packed some stuff, the rest will be done when we get back.

 

I have been taking some vitamin C during the day, it seems to be helping.

 

I never know what to say when I hear how much everybody is suffering and how much. It's really outrageous.

 

Korbe, Beulah, Coop and Nova, you seem to be in a bad wave . You  are all in my thoughts and I hope you guys get better soon.

 

Sky, I felt so happy reading your post, so happy that your life is proceeding in spite of symptoms.  No, we never know what to say to the suffering, it's enough just to acknowledge, I guess.  And, my friend, you have had your share of suffering, so enjoy everything you can.

 

And I was thinking there are still plenty of women that let their men do all the talking.  Pretend you're a demure woman from an earlier century and just smile vacantly

[[Gr...]]

Hi all,

 

I'm so sorry a lot of you are being dragged through the thorny wasteland by your hair. I'm in good company then as I've been battling through this shit show with you. Get ready for a rant 

 

Managed to catch up with posts today after a little break from the board as I'm on a weeks leave from work and thought I would try to recharge my batteries and try to have a 'normal' time without the pressure of going to work. Well I'm in tantrum mode, totally sick of this craziness. It seems no matter what you do, how you try to help yourself there is no getting away from this and new sx are turning up ie heart palpitations. Not sure if I'm feeling worse because I went for a day out to York yesterday. I'd already told my daughter we would go, so was not going to let wd stop me. Had a decent day previous to this and I managed to get through a day in York even though it was busy and I felt dizzy, tingly, fatigued. At one point we went into a shop and it felt like the floor was moving beneath my feet!!! Had a bit of a panic and nearly cried but decided to try to ignore it and carried on walking round (after making a quick exit from shop). It passed.

 

Today I decided to try to take it easy; sit in the garden, go for a walk. Feel even worse, cannot think and my brain feels paralysed in fact typing this and making any sense is really hard;massive head pressure and neck stiffness. Breathing crap, pain etc.Feel like it's a lose, lose situation. Try to do things and you get wiped out, take it easy and your mind (well mine does) won't let you off the hook, constantly beating me up for not being able to do what I want to do. Idk, maybe I'm just not coping at the moment or I'm just in a wave and tuesday I got a little break. I do know that after a shaky start, I felt quite normal tuesday evening. Just feel like kicking, screaming and breaking things now  When I feel like this I get scared that I will finally crack up, oh and of course never get better. Yes acceptance has left the building.

 

I did speak to BTP yesterday as I was panicking about my day out. I spoke to a really helpful lady who is not only a psychologist, she has gone through wd herself (took 2 years to heal) and is not alarmed at anything I say at this stage (nearly 16 months). She said because the brain is not doing it's job properly and it is misfiring signals, creating symptoms which in turn causes negative thinking and then low mood etc. I will post something more in depth once/if I am ever able to think straight again. 

 

Wishing you all relief from this hideous journey  You are all so brave and we WILL get to the end and arrive at a new beginning.

 

Marj, just reading this sentence made my day!  I'm so sorry a lot of you are being dragged through the thorny wasteland by your hair. I'm in good company then as I've been battling through this shit show with you. Get ready for a rant 

I must be looking for trouble because I got all excited when you called withdrawal a shit show!  So tired of being good, docile, and accepting.  yes, I'm tired of the shit show.  God, I love that.

 

On a calmer note, 16 months was miserable for me, for Coop, for most of us.  Thank you again for the reassurance from the BTP. 

Just keep doing what you're doing, spend whatever time you can with your daughter.  A lot of us have to act as if.  Pissed off is healthy.  Feel better.

[[Gr...]]

Sig, the insomnia is brutal, I've had it on and off.  I'm in a place where I can pick up a few hours in the morning.  I have no idea how you people who have to work get up and out in the morning after not sleeping. 

 

Your signature, you really took so little for such a short time.  This sucks that you have to deal with this.  It does get better.  It's a challenging symptom, but it does get better.  Have you tried Unisom, the one with doxy?  that worked for me for a little while.  it wasn't a permanent cure, but it gave me a couple of nights.  Hope you get some sleep soon.

[[Si...]]

Sig, the insomnia is brutal, I've had it on and off.  I'm in a place where I can pick up a few hours in the morning.  I have no idea how you people who have to work get up and out in the morning after not sleeping. 

 

Your signature, you really took so little for such a short time.  This sucks that you have to deal with this.  It does get better.  It's a challenging symptom, but it does get better.  Have you tried Unisom, the one with doxy?  that worked for me for a little while.  it wasn't a permanent cure, but it gave me a couple of nights.  Hope you get some sleep soon.

 

Yeah true it's crazy that such a small amount caused this for me. About 25 pills in all. I wish I could use an antihistamine. I'm one of the lucky (sarcasm) few that are paradoxical with antihistamine. It's like taking speed when I take it. So a definite no go. Too bad too as it's cheap, OTC and relatively safe compared to the other off label sleep aids. So I just have to brunt through it the best I can without any other help. The strongest thing I can swing is some lavender oil and maybe an NSAID every once in a while. Yep going to work is crazy hard. Not much choice though unless I want my wife and I to end up in a cardboard box. Thanks benzo poison.

[[dr...]]

Another day in the books. 

[[Gr...]]

Sig, the insomnia is brutal, I've had it on and off.  I'm in a place where I can pick up a few hours in the morning.  I have no idea how you people who have to work get up and out in the morning after not sleeping. 

 

Your signature, you really took so little for such a short time.  This sucks that you have to deal with this.  It does get better.  It's a challenging symptom, but it does get better.  Have you tried Unisom, the one with doxy?  that worked for me for a little while.  it wasn't a permanent cure, but it gave me a couple of nights.  Hope you get some sleep soon.

 

Yeah true it's crazy that such a small amount caused this for me. About 25 pills in all. I wish I could use an antihistamine. I'm one of the lucky (sarcasm) few that are paradoxical with antihistamine. It's like taking speed when I take it. So a definite no go. Too bad too as it's cheap, OTC and relatively safe compared to the other off label sleep aids. So I just have to brunt through it the best I can without any other help. The strongest thing I can swing is some lavender oil and maybe an NSAID every once in a while. Yep going to work is crazy hard. Not much choice though unless I want my wife and I to end up in a cardboard box. Thanks benzo poison.

 

I used to have that reaction.  I didn't this time.  but I wouldn't have been so bold at 15-16 months.  There's more going on than insomnia, you know, along the lines of what Marj's BPT site said.

 

I can hear you're having a tough time.  Don't worry, you will get your life back, this will not go on forever.

 

 

 

[[Sk...]]

Hi all,

 

I'm so sorry a lot of you are being dragged through the thorny wasteland by your hair. I'm in good company then as I've been battling through this shit show with you. Get ready for a rant 

 

Managed to catch up with posts today after a little break from the board as I'm on a weeks leave from work and thought I would try to recharge my batteries and try to have a 'normal' time without the pressure of going to work. Well I'm in tantrum mode, totally sick of this craziness. It seems no matter what you do, how you try to help yourself there is no getting away from this and new sx are turning up ie heart palpitations. Not sure if I'm feeling worse because I went for a day out to York yesterday. I'd already told my daughter we would go, so was not going to let wd stop me. Had a decent day previous to this and I managed to get through a day in York even though it was busy and I felt dizzy, tingly, fatigued. At one point we went into a shop and it felt like the floor was moving beneath my feet!!! Had a bit of a panic and nearly cried but decided to try to ignore it and carried on walking round (after making a quick exit from shop). It passed.

 

Today I decided to try to take it easy; sit in the garden, go for a walk. Feel even worse, cannot think and my brain feels paralysed in fact typing this and making any sense is really hard;massive head pressure and neck stiffness. Breathing crap, pain etc.Feel like it's a lose, lose situation. Try to do things and you get wiped out, take it easy and your mind (well mine does) won't let you off the hook, constantly beating me up for not being able to do what I want to do. Idk, maybe I'm just not coping at the moment or I'm just in a wave and tuesday I got a little break. I do know that after a shaky start, I felt quite normal tuesday evening. Just feel like kicking, screaming and breaking things now  When I feel like this I get scared that I will finally crack up, oh and of course never get better. Yes acceptance has left the building.

 

I did speak to BTP yesterday as I was panicking about my day out. I spoke to a really helpful lady who is not only a psychologist, she has gone through wd herself (took 2 years to heal) and is not alarmed at anything I say at this stage (nearly 16 months). She said because the brain is not doing it's job properly and it is misfiring signals, creating symptoms which in turn causes negative thinking and then low mood etc. I will post something more in depth once/if I am ever able to think straight again. 

 

Wishing you all relief from this hideous journey  You are all so brave and we WILL get to the end and arrive at a new beginning.

 

Marj, you have said it all yourself and quite beautifully too ! I just had to repost it, I loved it ! 

 

Now, I am officially logging off and spending my day on a highway. Temperatures are going to be even higher today, but luckily there is the AC in the car.

 

Carry on and do some healing. 

[[No...]]

Sky ... have a good trip ... you are sounding very balanced and focussed ... even though it may not feel that way most of the time ... 

[[No...]]

Good Morning ... lousy broken sleep for a couple of hours ... I blame it on the weather ... they are forecasting a storm to hit tomorrow ... maybe as much as a summer gale ...

 

Yep, another day in the books ... we are doing well ... it just doesn't feel like it sometimes ... 

[[Si...]]

Sig, the insomnia is brutal, I've had it on and off.  I'm in a place where I can pick up a few hours in the morning.  I have no idea how you people who have to work get up and out in the morning after not sleeping. 

 

Your signature, you really took so little for such a short time.  This sucks that you have to deal with this.  It does get better.  It's a challenging symptom, but it does get better.  Have you tried Unisom, the one with doxy?  that worked for me for a little while.  it wasn't a permanent cure, but it gave me a couple of nights.  Hope you get some sleep soon.

 

Yeah true it's crazy that such a small amount caused this for me. About 25 pills in all. I wish I could use an antihistamine. I'm one of the lucky (sarcasm) few that are paradoxical with antihistamine. It's like taking speed when I take it. So a definite no go. Too bad too as it's cheap, OTC and relatively safe compared to the other off label sleep aids. So I just have to brunt through it the best I can without any other help. The strongest thing I can swing is some lavender oil and maybe an NSAID every once in a while. Yep going to work is crazy hard. Not much choice though unless I want my wife and I to end up in a cardboard box. Thanks benzo poison.

 

I used to have that reaction.  I didn't this time.  but I wouldn't have been so bold at 15-16 months.  There's more going on than insomnia, you know, along the lines of what Marj's BPT site said.

 

I can hear you're having a tough time.  Don't worry, you will get your life back, this will not go on forever.

 

Thanks for the reassurance green. Got about 5 hours last night. Hope you're ok today.

[[Si...]]

Good Morning ... lousy broken sleep for a couple of hours ... I blame it on the weather ... they are forecasting a storm to hit tomorrow ... maybe as much as a summer gale ...

 

Yep, another day in the books ... we are doing well ... it just doesn't feel like it sometimes ... 

 

Usually storms are pretty relaxing if I can't sleep but I guess if they are strong enough it could do the opposite to me as well. We had a storm a few months ago where I was awake in the middle of the night. Very loud window shaking thunder and close by lightening. Hope you get some rest today.

[[dr...]]

good morning all...

 

Sky-travel safely

 

Well...my wavy day continued and while I was falling asleep I was startled awake several times as I was dozing off with myconic jerks, nightmares, and that weird state of feeling paralyzed but in a semi awake state   I was awoken at 4am with a steady surge of cortisol/adreanal rushes that jsut kept coming.  yaty healing!!!     I did take a 5mg propranolol as I have to work today and I need to just break the cycle of the rushes.  It is a small dose and I use it maybe a few times every few months when it is like this.  Happily I don't have much anxiety, Just a body doing weird shit which I know is recovery.  Keep you all posted. 

[[Si...]]

good morning all...

 

Sky-travel safely

 

Well...my wavy day continued and while I was falling asleep I was startled awake several times as I was dozing off with myconic jerks, nightmares, and that weird state of feeling paralyzed but in a semi awake state   I was awoken at 4am with a steady surge of cortisol/adreanal rushes that jsut kept coming.  yaty healing!!!     I did take a 5mg propranolol as I have to work today and I need to just break the cycle of the rushes.  It is a small dose and I use it maybe a few times every few months when it is like this.  Happily I don't have much anxiety, Just a body doing weird shit which I know is recovery.  Keep you all posted.

 

Do what you have to drew. We're getting there brother. Slowly but surely. I'm still in my wave and have the weird funky head thing going on. It's almost a feeling of like having the symptoms of the flu without being sick and an adrenalin rush in my forehead instead of where my kidneys are. Pretty weird but that's about the only way to describe it. Usually wake up feeling the blood pounding through my brain. I keep getting slight nausea through out the day too, which is a new one for me. Hope the rest of your day goes smooth.

[[Lo...]]

Hi everyone, I hope someone could chime in. Every since mid to late July certain symptoms have really ramped up 

 

I'm over the 15 months off threshold. Anyone between 15-18 experience a serious ramp up with symptoms?

 

This is crazy, just trying to stay the course. But its hard.

 

My balance is all over the place, the head pressure is back, rocky boat sensation almost daily...the pulling sensation of my head. It's horrible.

 

Praying for all of you. 

[[dr...]]

Hi everyone, I hope someone could chime in. Every since mid to late July certain symptoms have really ramped up 

 

I'm over the 15 months off threshold. Anyone between 15-18 experience a serious ramp up with symptoms?

 

This is crazy, just trying to stay the course. But its hard.

 

My balance is all over the place, the head pressure is back, rocky boat sensation almost daily...the pulling sensation of my head. It's horrible.

 

Praying for all of you. 

 

Yup!  this sucks...I ramped up around second week of July and I'd like to add I'm joining you with floaty boaty the last few days.  My neck/back of skull area tightened up like a vice and it gives my head an unbalanced heavy feeling.  Was walking down a funky design carpeted hallway and oh my!!!  Felt like I was going to tip over.  It's a run of the mill misery wave for me...some random shooting nerve pains(which I haven't had forever), repetitively startled when my body finally starts dozing off or I get relaxed(fun times), two hours of adrenaline surges this am, sweating, and a few more...I feel like a poster child for ashton manual  

[[63...]]

Hi everyone, I hope someone could chime in. Every since mid to late July certain symptoms have really ramped up 

 

I'm over the 15 months off threshold. Anyone between 15-18 experience a serious ramp up with symptoms?

 

This is crazy, just trying to stay the course. But its hard.

 

My balance is all over the place, the head pressure is back, rocky boat sensation almost daily...the pulling sensation of my head. It's horrible.

 

Praying for all of you. 

 

LM...

 

 

16 months off here....slowly clombing out of a bad wave where symptoms have rampped up, all after a real good month where I thought bad waves were behind me. I get the pulling sensation in my head too...sucks! (no pun intended .

 

Itis not unusual to have intense symptoms this far out, as others in this thread can attest to.