[...] Posted Tuesday at 13:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:56 (edited) The American Society of Addiction Medicine (ASAM) has released its draft guidance on benzodiazepine deprescribing for public review until July 19, 2024. At Benzodiazepine Information Coalition, we believe this draft falls short in both capturing the patient experience and preparing providers to offer the best care. We need your voice to help shape this crucial guidance. Watch our new video to learn how taking a few moments to share your experience could help improve these guidelines. YouTube: URGENT! We Need Your Help by July 19! Draft Benzo Deprescribing Guidelines! Some of our concerns with the draft The entire post-withdrawal protracted experience is ignored. Providers and patients need this information to understand the stakes and participate in informed consent during the deprescribing process. It is not clear enough that physical dependence on prescribed benzodiazepines is not an addiction problem. Shared decision-making requires full informed consent, including the risks and benefits of both continuing and discontinuing prescribed benzodiazepines. Most serious long-term risks of cessation are absent from the guidance. Inpatient tapers are rapid and too fast for most patients. Facilities in the United States capable of facilitating a slow inpatient taper do not exist. Abrupt cessation or overly rapid cessation leaves the patient vulnerable to years of protracted symptoms. The starting taper range of 5-25% every 2 weeks is too large and fast for many patients. It should be no more than 5-10% every 4 weeks initially and can be adjusted based on patient response. The description of tapering strategies is insufficient and assumes preexisting knowledge that most providers do not possess. It needs to address strategies such as tolerance, interdose withdrawal, kindling, and liquid micro-tapering. Patients need their prescribers to know more than just how to break a pill in half. ASAM Draft Guidance We came up with some ideas for comments. We will add to the list when we have time. Cited comments are the best, but a general comment is helpful, too. Potential Comments for ASAM Read our Call To Action: Let’s Tell ASAM And The FDA The Truth! More on the history. All About BIC, ASAM And The FDA! FYI: Anyone in the world can comment on the ASAM Draft Guidance. Location doesn't matter. All comments can be confidential with a unique fake name for both the comments and the disclosure statement. Edited Wednesday at 16:52 by [...] 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Li...] Posted Tuesday at 17:42 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:42 Tip of the hat to @[...] for assembling these materials! I hope members will review them and provide comments on the draft guideline by July 19. As an older adult, I am especially concerned about the recommendation on page 5, line 21 that states: ”Clinicians should taper BZD in most older adults unless there are compelling reasons for continuation.” I fear many older adults will be subjected to potentially harmful tapering practices if modifications in the draft guideline are not made. If members have questions or need assistance with submitting comments, please post to this thread. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[kn...] Posted Tuesday at 19:42 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:42 @[Li...] My tech devices are limited right now to a small screen I phone that does not allow me to read the print on the downloaded document. Any advice? I could just wait for a few days until I return home and have access to our large screen Mac. I’d still be able to weigh in before the deadline. My largest and most pressing advice would center around quality of life for older adults during this whole process. (WD) I really question the need for insisting that seniors beyond a certain age (70) should be forced to taper. I had no idea of the consequences of starting this and had taken Benzos for so long with absolutely no observable ill effects. I’ve wondered so many times if it would have been better to just stay the course. I hate to think that my family’s last memories of me will be the current state that I’m in. And even worse is the whole issue of me never finishing this in good stead and living out my remaining years in a state of regret. Sad. 😢 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Re...] Posted Tuesday at 20:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:06 It is upmost important for members of our community to comment. There will be a tremendous impact of the ASAM Guidelines. However, if these ASAM Guidelines are established incorrectly, like they are in this draft, many many people will continue to suffer benzodiazepine injury. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Li...] Posted Tuesday at 20:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:34 Hello @[kn...]. Per usual, you’ve hit the proverbial nail on the head — quality of life is incredibly important to older adults, yet this draft guideline does not include even one reference to this. You’ve also identified another area of concern — the draft guideline fails to acknowledge there are risks associated with tapering/deprescribing and consequently there is a need for informed consent regarding these risks. You’ve been around here long enough to know you are not the only older adult who has been harmed by less-than-stellar tapering practices. What happened to you breaks my heart. Re: advice on how to proceed … in your shoes, I’d wait until I had access to a device with a larger screen to submit comments. In the interim, I’d skim through the draft guideline on my phone and jot down the page number and a note about any ‘red flags’ I encountered. I deeply appreciate your willingness to engage in this important work. You have already made two major contributions and I know more will be forthcoming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[kn...] Posted Tuesday at 21:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:28 Will do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Li...] Posted Wednesday at 11:43 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:43 Good news! A member of the Benzo Warriors community has reported that she followed the excellent instructions provided by @[...] and was able to enter all of the suggested comments in under 30 minutes. Even if you can only enter one comment, PLEASE consider doing so. For example, the Guideline does not give adequate attention to withdrawal symptoms. Here’s a draft of my comment to address this weakness: Page 6, line 6 To ensure appropriate diagnosis, monitoring, and management, it is imperative for clinicians to recognize that BZD withdrawal symptoms can be varied, variable, and sometimes debilitating. Clinicians also need to be able to distinguish between relapse and withdrawal. It is also important for clinicians to recognize that some patients may have delayed onset symptoms as well as protracted symptoms after cessation. These post-cessation symptoms may last for days or weeks but sometimes can persist for months or years (see p. 320 in The Maudsley Deprescribing Guidelines for references). I strongly recommended referring clinicians to pages 316 - 326 in The Maudsley Deprescribing Guidelines (Horowitz & Taylor, 2024) and including Table 3.3 “Withdrawal effects from benzodiazepines” (p. 317) in the Guideline. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[...] Posted Wednesday at 12:45 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 12:45 Do you mind if we include your comment on the site here? It's very good! https://www.benzoinfo.com/2024/07/01/asam-potential-comments/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Li...] Posted Wednesday at 13:15 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Le...] Posted Wednesday at 19:57 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:57 I would really recommend considering what can be done pre taper. The better a persons health is before stressing it with a trial like this the more successful and less harmed they will be. A persons overall health and what can be done to improve it should be considered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Li...] Posted Wednesday at 20:04 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:04 Excellent point, @[Le...]! I hope you will submit a comment about this to ASAM. Let me know if you have questions or need help with the submission process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[...] Posted Thursday at 11:52 Author Share Posted Thursday at 11:52 We found this free event on July 6 that offers help with completing ASAM reports. see: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZEtc-mgrjopH9VBbgvr40SQaqM0pTth4n9D?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR188JbPBLef2oVaNZkHywQbQvMaw-l1BVj7E8GhbAgtVxJ4Il1Atk_FuhQ_aem_yPPmNUALzFIEiRRjIacTXg#/registration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Li...] Posted Thursday at 12:35 Share Posted Thursday at 12:35 Thank you @[...]. I’ve read multiple comments on other platforms requesting assistance with submitting feedback to ASAM. This event is much needed! fyi The above link didn’t work for me. But this one does: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZEtc-mgrjopH9VBbgvr40SQaqM0pTth4n9D#/registration 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Li...] Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago I just finished reading Appendix I. Sample Tapering Schedules and Case Descriptions starting on Page 130, Line 1. Here are my initial, draft comments: The importance of risk stratification based on patient history should be highlighted. In particular, clinicians need to be aware that older adults often present with multiple risk factors for severe withdrawal. If such risk factors are present, the clinician should give strong consideration to initiating the taper at a trial rate of 5% or less. See pages 350-352 in The Maudsley Deprescribing Guidelines (Horowitz & Taylor, 2024). Informed consent re: the risks of tapering/deprescribing is not provided; patients are informed of the ‘possibility of withdrawal symptoms’ and it’s implied that the clinician will be able to keep these ‘tolerable’ (this may or may not be possible especially if the taper rate is too fast). The tapering schedules use the cut and hold method achieved via pill-splitting. No mention is made of alternative techniques to achieve ‘small enough’ doses for mini- or micro-tapers (e.g. manufacturer’s liquids, compounded liquids, shaving-and-weighing) or of alternative reduction intervals (e.g. daily, series of daily reductions followed by brief holds, alternating days, weekly, bi-weekly). No mention is made of the importance of making proportional versus linear reductions (i.e. reductions are calculated based on the current dose not the original dose so reductions get smaller as the dose gets lower). Ms. D on page 131 and Ms. L on page 133 are both prescribed antidepressants. Informed consent re: the risks of taking/stopping ADs is not provided. Mr. M’s case (Page 132, line 5) involves skipping doses at the end of the taper. Per Framer (2021): “What is clear from our thousands of case reports: Never, ever, skip doses to taper. The drug blood level fluctuations from intermittent dosing are highly effective in engendering kindling reactions. As clinicians have long been aware that a forgotten dose can bring on withdrawal symptoms, it is unaccountable why skipping doses is at all recommended as a tapering strategy.” (p. 8 ). Citation: Framer A. What I have learnt from helping thousands of people taper off antidepressants and other psychotropic medications. Ther Adv Psychopharmacol. 2021 Mar 16;11:2045125321991274. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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