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0.25mg clonazepam taper plan


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I am currently down to the last 0.25mg from 2mg original daily dose from February 2024. My last cut was Friday May 10th and  Monday May 13th both 0.125mg each. I got some pretty severe withdrawal symptoms for about a week such as hot body, headache,nightmares,  sore muscles, IBS symptoms including vomiting in the mornings and tinnitus. I still have body tremors especially in the hands and slight anxiety that is improving and tinnitus. I guess I can say I am lucky my symptoms aren't worse. 

I know this was a very large taper but I was feeling good during my taper until 0.25mg. I was going to go down 0.125mg this Friday if I felt good. That is a 50% cut. I was feeling good that I was almost off clonazepam but now i dont know if I should go 10% at a time from here? I bought scales from Amazon from 2 people who told me what they are using. I know my Dr was thinking I would be able to finish my taper by the end of June. I am noticing below 0.50mg is much harder than earlier tapers. Much more severe withdrawal symptoms. 

What do you think? I am looking for advice and a taper plan and when to jump. 

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I think that cutting from .25 mg to .125 mg is too big of a cut. 

I consider myself one of the lucky ones as my taper has gone very well. I have everything you mention, with the exception of the vomiting. All of it has been very doable for me and I was able to continue on with the taper without holding. I cut an 1/8 every two week as long as I felt stable.

As of yesterday, I'm at .0625 mg.  Because my taper has gone well, my doctor feels I'll be ok to jump, but will leave it up to me. I expect there to be some discomfort after I jump, but praying for the best.

I hope others will chime in.

I hope things ease up for you.

 

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On 27/05/2024 at 09:58, [[R...] said:

I think that cutting from .25 mg to .125 mg is too big of a cut. 

I consider myself one of the lucky ones as my taper has gone very well. I have everything you mention, with the exception of the vomiting. All of it has been very doable for me and I was able to continue on with the taper without holding. I cut an 1/8 every two week as long as I felt stable.

As of yesterday, I'm at .0625 mg.  Because my taper has gone well, my doctor feels I'll be ok to jump, but will leave it up to me. I expect there to be some discomfort after I jump, but praying for the best.

I hope others will chime in.

I hope things ease up for you.

It was a horrible time but the physical symptoms seem to have got better other than some stomach issues. I still feel fatigue even though I am sleeping ok. I am eating better again. I have bought a scale and started to make each dose the same weights going forward. I believe i was not dosing right because every dose was a different weight at the smaller doses. One day I would be taking 0.090mg the next 0.073mg. That is not consistent. So I have every dose measured at 0.84mg. I will wait to stablize then move on. This website has helped me immensely. 

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3 hours ago, [[E...] said:

It was a horrible time but the physical symptoms seem to have got better other than some stomach issues. I still feel fatigue even though I am sleeping ok. I am eating better again. I have bought a scale and started to make each dose the same weights going forward. I believe i was not dosing right because every dose was a different weight at the smaller doses. One day I would be taking 0.090mg the next 0.073mg. That is not consistent. So I have every dose measured at 0.84mg. I will wait to stablize then move on. This website has helped me immensely. 

I'm glad you are feeling better, but please, do not try and rush it.

The scale will help. I chose not to; I found cutting tedious and frustrating enough. I'll be happy when I don't have to do it anymore. 

My doses weren't and still are not equal, but it has not really affected me. At the beginning I tried to make sure they were exact and I became very frustrated. Someone said on this forum, I think, or maybe it was my doctor, not to obsess over being off a tiny bit because of the long half life. So I did the best I could when I'd cut. 

You'll get through this!

 

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25 minutes ago, [[R...] said:

I'm glad you are feeling better, but please, do not try and rush it.

The scale will help. I chose not to; I found cutting tedious and frustrating enough. I'll be happy when I don't have to do it anymore. 

My doses weren't and still are not equal, but it has not really affected me. At the beginning I tried to make sure they were exact and I became very frustrated. Someone said on this forum, I think, or maybe it was my doctor, not to obsess over being off a tiny bit because of the long half life. So I did the best I could when I'd cut. 

You'll get through this!

I find I can make the cuts as close as possible. .001mg here and there is not a game changer. I am feeling better but not quite stable yet. I really screwed up on my last cut. I will get through this I have no choice but to get off this poison. I hope you are feeling well. This is torturous and inhuman. 

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When I got down to where it was harder and harder to make the cuts, I started doing a microtaper by dissolving a quarter of a pill into milk (100 ml) and then each night removing one more ml of the milk before drinking it. I feel like it's potentially more of an even taper. Just something to consider when you get to the really small pill fragments/doses. 

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On 29/05/2024 at 15:59, [[E...] said:

When I got down to where it was harder and harder to make the cuts, I started doing a microtaper by dissolving a quarter of a pill into milk (100 ml) and then each night removing one more ml of the milk before drinking it. I feel like it's potentially more of an even taper. Just something to consider when you get to the really small pill fragments/doses. 

How do you do this? I’m at .25 and want to taper but don’t know what to do?!!

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Hi, 

I found the instructions on this site via a you tube link. If you type "crazy canuk + benzodiazapines" you will find a quick how to.

Basically you dissolve a certain weight/dose into a certain volume of milk (For me it was 0.125 mg Klonopin into 100 cc milk).  I just drop the weighed portion of the pill into 100 cc of milk and let it sit in the fridge for at least an hour and then stir or shake well. Then I use a syringe to remove some of the milk before I drink it, removing one additional cc every night. So, for example,  70 nights ago I started by drinking the entire 100 cc and now I'm down to drinking 30 cc, tomorrow will be 29 cc and so on. So I should be done in about a month if all goes well. So far this has been much smoother for me than the several months before, when I was doing more sudden drops every 10 days to 2 weeks. I am tolerating this better.

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Is your .125mg Klonopin a tablet? The only way I can get .125mg is to use an ODT, orally disintegrating tablet. 

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No, I cut my 0.5 mg tablet into pieces using a scale to get a 0.125 mg dose.

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I have a whole new understanding of those that suffer with IBS, which I believe are absolutely wd sxs for me as I never had this in my life.  It's started during my latest 3 tapers, but I'm thinking about 2 months total I've suffered with it, but managed the sxs with ACV, lot of water, and was able to get back into exercise.  Well all that didn't prevent what happened this a.m.

I had it hit me so hard I suffered with cramps so bad I vomiting many times, but dry heaves were horrible.  I've never been so grateful, when I when I finally could "go".  My ears were ringing like crazy but didn't pay much attention since that was the least of my issues.  I also have NEVER tremored so bad, even my jaw.

I truly believe I have learned amazing things from this, especially about myself, and how I need to have more compassion, more encouragement, and more love for others. 

So I praise my God for allowing this to happen, many will think that's weird and I don't care, I know I needed this so I got it, and I will be a better person for it.  I've prayed my Saviour never let me forget this, because through hardships, I usually forget when I feel better :-\:idiot: My doc appt. is Tuesday, and I'll see how that works out, but I know it will be wise to at least get her opinion.  Oregonlady, hoping this adds some good to this thread for @[En...] and anyone else suffering with this sort of issue.

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1 hour ago, [[o...] said:

I have a whole new understanding of those that suffer with IBS, which I believe are absolutely wd sxs for me as I never had this in my life.  It's started during my latest 3 tapers, but I'm thinking about 2 months total I've suffered with it, but managed the sxs with ACV, lot of water, and was able to get back into exercise.  Well all that didn't prevent what happened this a.m.

I had it hit me so hard I suffered with cramps so bad I vomiting many times, but dry heaves were horrible.  I've never been so grateful, when I when I finally could "go".  My ears were ringing like crazy but didn't pay much attention since that was the least of my issues.  I also have NEVER tremored so bad, even my jaw.

I truly believe I have learned amazing things from this, especially about myself, and how I need to have more compassion, more encouragement, and more love for others. 

So I praise my God for allowing this to happen, many will think that's weird and I don't care, I know I needed this so I got it, and I will be a better person for it.  I've prayed my Saviour never let me forget this, because through hardships, I usually forget when I feel better :-\:idiot: My doc appt. is Tuesday, and I'll see how that works out, but I know it will be wise to at least get her opinion.  Oregonlady, hoping this adds some good to this thread for @[En...] and anyone else suffering with this sort of issue.

We all grow spiritually from the experience. Not to say more religious but more spiritually. Our souls learn from hardships we endure in our physical lives and that is why we are here. I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't develope spiritually from this. It's a life lesson. Nothing to do with God for those that get offended by religion. Just being a more developed spiritual being.  

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All good thoughts, but I have to be honest, this is all about my relationship with the God of the bible.  He is my strength.  This is personal, for me, and maybe a few others here, but I fully understand the God of the bible, is not everyone's, so I never try to push it on anyone. I am not called to do that, but to share my experience, strength and hope and leave it at that. I believe He'll take care of the result.

I so agree on my spirituality growing through this experience, and again, I thank God for that, and pray for others to find the peace I have about it all.  But I know that I will need to be refreshed often, I have a very convenient forgetter, oregonlady ~ Denise :hug:

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3 minutes ago, [[o...] said:

All good thoughts, but I have to be honest, this is all about my relationship with the God of the bible.  He is my strength.  This is personal, for me, and maybe a few others here, but I fully understand the God of the bible, is not everyone's, so I never try to push it on anyone. I am not called to do that, but to share my experience, strength and hope and leave it at that. I believe He'll take care of the result.

I so agree on my spirituality growing through this experience, and again, I thank God for that, and pray for others to find the peace I have about it all.  But I know that I will need to be refreshed often, I have a very convenient forgetter, oregonlady ~ Denise :hug:

Perhaps too deep of a subject for a few. Everyone has their own experience after this. I too believe in God helping me through this. I have also seen faith help me through. But perhaps it can be taboo to speak of it. 

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7 minutes ago, [[E...] said:

Perhaps too deep of a subject for a few. Everyone has their own experience after this. I too believe in God helping me through this. I have also seen faith help me through. But perhaps it can be taboo to speak of it. 

I'll include Him, I have to, I won't preach though, but as the most important person in "my" life, I can hardly leave Him out.  As far as I know, many speak of their spirituality here on BB so I think I'm just becoming someone who will speak of mine, and how it's growing, oregonlady ~ Denise :smitten:PS and I never thought I'd have a spiritual experience while thinking I was dying on a toilet, but my God works in mysterious ways :laugh:

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12 minutes ago, [[o...] said:

I'll include Him, I have to, I won't preach though, but as the most important person in "my" life, I can hardly leave Him out.  As far as I know, many speak of their spirituality here on BB so I think I'm just becoming someone who will speak of mine, and how it's growing, oregonlady ~ Denise :smitten:PS and I never thought I'd have a spiritual experience while thinking I was dying on a toilet, but my God works in mysterious ways :laugh:

I am happy to hear you found positivity in this horrible situation. That means this was not a horrible experience in your life. You have learned a life lesson not to take for granted your good mental health. I too am in that boat. Much more now than any other time in my life. That means it was not a horrible experience for me either. 

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