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[[Ho...]]

Now down to .04 Klonopin.  I can step off at .03 this weekend or go a few more days and go down to .01 then step off.  Not sure yet what I'll do.

 

Sleep is still around 7 hours a night.  No out of control anxiety, maybe my only symptoms are dry mouth and bowel issues some days.

 

The only thing that I have had to contend with so far is some anxiety that would come and go during the first week and a little be of sleep loss, nothing unmanageable.  The second week went much smoother.  I was told that there was no physiological activity of .02 mg of ativan which is what prompted me to hop off a few days early instead of riding it down to .007.

 

Yeah I was wondering what that physiological activity limit would be for klonopin, looks like it would be .04 klonopin = .02 ativan, which would mean I am at the point where I'd lie to step off.  That said, I have a cold, so I won't step off until I am recovered from the cold!  But I feel great, another good night of sleep despite being sick!

 

Good idea to hold until your cold has passed.  I was lucky enough to get my sinus infection a week after the step off.

[[Ca...]]

Hello beautiful people!

 

I’m wondering if anyone can offer advice. I’m at 4 mg of Valium even (down from 11 mg).  I’ve been using a pharmaceutical liquid made by Roxane to eliminate 1 mg using a DLMT, and leaving the rest of my dose in pill form. I’m currently holding to stabilize (I always do between each mg), and I’m sensing a lot of anxiety building about switching out my next 1 mg of pill for the Roxanne liquid. My body is super sensitive so I always have a reaction to this switch. My question is- do you think preparing my own liquid using the pills I am used to would be easier on my body?

 

I appreciate all input 

[[be...]]

Hello beautiful people!

 

I’m wondering if anyone can offer advice. I’m at 4 mg of Valium even (down from 11 mg).  I’ve been using a pharmaceutical liquid made by Roxane to eliminate 1 mg using a DLMT, and leaving the rest of my dose in pill form. I’m currently holding to stabilize (I always do between each mg), and I’m sensing a lot of anxiety building about switching out my next 1 mg of pill for the Roxanne liquid. My body is super sensitive so I always have a reaction to this switch. My question is- do you think preparing my own liquid using the pills I am used to would be easier on my body?

 

I appreciate all input 

Gosh I am not sure, sorry.  💖 Peace and Healing.

[[So...]]

Hello beautiful people!

 

I’m wondering if anyone can offer advice. I’m at 4 mg of Valium even (down from 11 mg).  I’ve been using a pharmaceutical liquid made by Roxane to eliminate 1 mg using a DLMT, and leaving the rest of my dose in pill form. I’m currently holding to stabilize (I always do between each mg), and I’m sensing a lot of anxiety building about switching out my next 1 mg of pill for the Roxanne liquid. My body is super sensitive so I always have a reaction to this switch. My question is- do you think preparing my own liquid using the pills I am used to would be easier on my body?

 

I appreciate all input 

 

Candice - I made my own Valium solution using pills (Builder guided me) and it was easy to do. I am doing liquid and pills then will do all liquid. I had a little more s/x when I did a whole day of liquid yesterday. Maybe try the Roxanne Labs solution for a dose or two and see it agrees with you.

[[Ca...]]

Hello beautiful people!

 

I’m wondering if anyone can offer advice. I’m at 4 mg of Valium even (down from 11 mg).  I’ve been using a pharmaceutical liquid made by Roxane to eliminate 1 mg using a DLMT, and leaving the rest of my dose in pill form. I’m currently holding to stabilize (I always do between each mg), and I’m sensing a lot of anxiety building about switching out my next 1 mg of pill for the Roxanne liquid. My body is super sensitive so I always have a reaction to this switch. My question is- do you think preparing my own liquid using the pills I am used to would be easier on my body?

 

I appreciate all input 

 

Candice - I made my own Valium solution using pills (Builder guided me) and it was easy to do. I am doing liquid and pills then will do all liquid. I had a little more s/x when I did a whole day of liquid yesterday. Maybe try the Roxanne Labs solution for a dose or two and see it agrees with you.

 

Thanks SoberHope!  I am using the Roxanne now, I have been for a while and it has agreed with me, in the sense that I can tolerate it fine once I am adjusted to it.  My anxiety is coming from having to take a larger percentage of my dose and liquify it as I get super low (I take 1 mg at a time and trade it from pill form into the Roxanne equivalent).  For example, I am liquifying 25% of my dose in this next transition I will be making in about a week.  I'm wondering if anyone has had less of a problem adjusting to their own home made liquid as compared to the pharmaceutical liquid.

[[ga...]]

Hello beautiful people!

 

I’m wondering if anyone can offer advice. I’m at 4 mg of Valium even (down from 11 mg).  I’ve been using a pharmaceutical liquid made by Roxane to eliminate 1 mg using a DLMT, and leaving the rest of my dose in pill form. I’m currently holding to stabilize (I always do between each mg), and I’m sensing a lot of anxiety building about switching out my next 1 mg of pill for the Roxanne liquid. My body is super sensitive so I always have a reaction to this switch. My question is- do you think preparing my own liquid using the pills I am used to would be easier on my body?

 

I appreciate all input 

 

Candice - I made my own Valium solution using pills (Builder guided me) and it was easy to do. I am doing liquid and pills then will do all liquid. I had a little more s/x when I did a whole day of liquid yesterday. Maybe try the Roxanne Labs solution for a dose or two and see it agrees with you.

 

Thanks SoberHope!  I am using the Roxanne now, I have been for a while and it has agreed with me, in the sense that I can tolerate it fine once I am adjusted to it.  My anxiety is coming from having to take a larger percentage of my dose and liquify it as I get super low (I take 1 mg at a time and trade it from pill form into the Roxanne equivalent).  For example, I am liquifying 25% of my dose in this next transition I will be making in about a week.  I'm wondering if anyone has had less of a problem adjusting to their own home made liquid as compared to the pharmaceutical liquid.

 

Sorry, no experience, but you could be your own guinea pig and try dissolving a pill and just drinking the whole pill. If the homemade liquid is better than the pharmaceutical liquid, I would suspect it's because you're changing brands when you use the pharmaceutical.

[[Ca...]]

Hello beautiful people!

 

I’m wondering if anyone can offer advice. I’m at 4 mg of Valium even (down from 11 mg).  I’ve been using a pharmaceutical liquid made by Roxane to eliminate 1 mg using a DLMT, and leaving the rest of my dose in pill form. I’m currently holding to stabilize (I always do between each mg), and I’m sensing a lot of anxiety building about switching out my next 1 mg of pill for the Roxanne liquid. My body is super sensitive so I always have a reaction to this switch. My question is- do you think preparing my own liquid using the pills I am used to would be easier on my body?

 

I appreciate all input 

 

Candice - I made my own Valium solution using pills (Builder guided me) and it was easy to do. I am doing liquid and pills then will do all liquid. I had a little more s/x when I did a whole day of liquid yesterday. Maybe try the Roxanne Labs solution for a dose or two and see it agrees with you.

 

Thanks SoberHope!  I am using the Roxanne now, I have been for a while and it has agreed with me, in the sense that I can tolerate it fine once I am adjusted to it.  My anxiety is coming from having to take a larger percentage of my dose and liquify it as I get super low (I take 1 mg at a time and trade it from pill form into the Roxanne equivalent).  For example, I am liquifying 25% of my dose in this next transition I will be making in about a week.  I'm wondering if anyone has had less of a problem adjusting to their own home made liquid as compared to the pharmaceutical liquid.

 

Sorry, no experience, but you could be your own guinea pig and try dissolving a pill and just drinking the whole pill. If the homemade liquid is better than the pharmaceutical liquid, I would suspect it's because you're changing brands when you use the pharmaceutical.

 

I could be my own guinea pig for sure.  I guess it may be worth the shot.  Way back in the very beginning of my Xanax taper (my original benzo prior to a cross over), I tried making my own liquid using my pills, but I just 'dissolved' them in water.  I didn't use the vodka.  I shook it like crazy and made what I understood was a suspension, not a solution, as benzos don't dissolve in water.  I made sure I shook it like crazy and drank the entire thing, and after just 2 days I was in complete hell.  I had liquified a significant portion of my dose when I did that (I believe it was .375 mg of Xanax, at that time I was taking 1 mg at bedtime and the .375 mg at my second dose during the night, for insomnia).  Anyways, I guess it's worth a shot to try to make the liquid myself.  The perfect solution would be if the manufacturer of my tablets (Mylan) would custom make a taper strip.  Or if I could find a reliable scale where I could make such tiny reductions efficiently, daily (.01 mg).  The lower I get, the more complicated this seems to become, lol!  Deep breaths....

[[So...]]

Candice -

 

I had problems doing all liquid that I made the first day so now I am tapering 1mg in liquid and taking the other 2mg in pill and will do this until I get down to 2mg - is working better for me. It's basically about tweaking things and finding what works best for you.

 

Let us know how things are going.

[[Ho...]]

Hey, just wanted to check in here on day 18.  Pretty much over the upper respiratory infection and feeling good.  Was able to go to the gym yesterday and today.  I dumped my leftover Ativan in the Walgreens medication disposal kiosk yesterday which gave me a big psychological boost....done with it!   Took some magnesium last night and slept 8.5 hrs.  Feeling a solid, positive vibe today.  Hope everyone is doing well here.

[[be...]]

Hey, just wanted to check in here on day 18.  Pretty much over the upper respiratory infection and feeling good.  Was able to go to the gym yesterday and today.  I dumped my leftover Ativan in the Walgreens medication disposal kiosk yesterday which gave me a big psychological boost....done with it!   Took some magnesium last night and slept 8.5 hrs.  Feeling a solid, positive vibe today.  Hope everyone is doing well here.

Thanks for keeping us updated, you are doing well, I am so happy for you. Good idea about the drug drop off...I have tons of Valium, I will do the same, after I walk off. 💖 Peace and Healing.

[[So...]]

That is AWESOME Horizon - love that you got rid of the pills. Good riddance!!

 

I am so tempted by Magnesium but then I read that some people have a bad reaction to it. I know that I tried L-Theanine last night and it had no effect. Woke up at 4:30am and took another 100mg of L-Theanine and it sent me into bad morning anxiety that thankfully calmed down in a few hours. Supplements are so hard to figure out. I go down a rabbit hole researching them and then think I found one "safe" one and the ______ hits the fan.

[[Ho...]]

I read the same about magnesium affecting people in negative ways.  I figured I would give it a try and it seems to work every now and then, sometimes has no effect.

[[So...]]

Glad the Magnesium is working for you Horizon - I think supplements are probably better handled when one is off a benzo and not tapering (like me).

 

LOVE that you had a positive vibe today - so good to hear!

[[Ho...]]

Hey, just wanted to check in here on day 18.  Pretty much over the upper respiratory infection and feeling good.  Was able to go to the gym yesterday and today.  I dumped my leftover Ativan in the Walgreens medication disposal kiosk yesterday which gave me a big psychological boost....done with it!   Took some magnesium last night and slept 8.5 hrs.  Feeling a solid, positive vibe today.  Hope everyone is doing well here.

Thanks for keeping us updated, you are doing well, I am so happy for you. Good idea about the drug drop off...I have tons of Valium, I will do the same, after I walk off. 💖 Peace and Healing.

 

It was definitely a psychological boost.  I was off but now that I don't have any it means I am done.

[Guest [NM...]]

5 days into liquid micro taper & I’m pretty sure I feel better from having a way more steady dose in me. I wish I’d started this sooner.

[[Ho...]]

Awesome NMSafe, I hope if goes as smooth for you as it did for me....I was definitely wishing that I had started on DLMT to begin with.

[Guest [NM...]]

Awesome NMSafe, I hope if goes as smooth for you as it did for me....I was definitely wishing that I had started on DLMT to begin with.

 

Thank you so much! I'm SO GLAD you are doing well! I need to look at your siggy again. 

[[So...]]

NMSafe - I am on a DLMT too - we are a team in this fight and we will WIN!

[Guest [NM...]]

NMSafe - I am on a DLMT too - we are a team in this fight and we will WIN!

 

YES WE WILL!!!

[[So...]]

YOU are AWESOME NMSafe - love your energy.

 

It's so important to have a good outlook during this. I feel sorry for people in pain, my heart breaks for them, but I also think that they make things worse for themselves when posting about how they feel like they are dying...I try and help people on here when I feel bad. I do feel lucky that I have only had 3 s/x throughout this ordeal and they haven't changed and I am really only in a wave first thing in the morning. I know others suffer so much more. But when feeling bad, I try and lift myself up and remember the windows I have had and that I am for sure suffering but it could be worse.. And I focus the bad times into coming on here and trying to help the new people in the Introductions section - I campaign for everyone to do a DLMT and not a c/t or fast taper. Helping people with what little I know and have learned makes me feel better. 

 

Night everyone!

 

We ALL heal! Never forget that.

 

 

[Guest [NM...]]

YOU are AWESOME NMSafe - love your energy.

 

It's so important to have a good outlook during this. I feel sorry for people in pain, my heart breaks for them, but I also think that they make things worse for themselves when posting about how they feel like they are dying...I try and help people on here when I feel bad. I do feel lucky that I have only had 3 s/x throughout this ordeal and they haven't changed and I am really only in a wave first thing in the morning. I know others suffer so much more. But when feeling bad, I try and lift myself up and remember the windows I have had and that I am for sure suffering but it could be worse.. And I focus the bad times into coming on here and trying to help the new people in the Introductions section - I campaign for everyone to do a DLMT and not a c/t or fast taper. Helping people with what little I know and have learned makes me feel better. 

 

Night everyone!

 

We ALL heal! Never forget that.

 

Yeah, I hit a rough patch in Oct/Nov. I was cutting too fast and I was too stubborn to slow down until January hit me HARD. I'm very, very fortunate to have my husband, daughter and son-in-law who hold me close and listen to me, let me vent and validate me.  That makes such a huge difference, I'm sure, combined with my fight and faith (which has been tested, believe me). 

[[be...]]

Hey, just wanted to check in here on day 18.  Pretty much over the upper respiratory infection and feeling good.  Was able to go to the gym yesterday and today.  I dumped my leftover Ativan in the Walgreens medication disposal kiosk yesterday which gave me a big psychological boost....done with it!   Took some magnesium last night and slept 8.5 hrs.  Feeling a solid, positive vibe today.  Hope everyone is doing well here.

Thanks for keeping us updated, you are doing well, I am so happy for you. Good idea about the drug drop off...I have tons of Valium, I will do the same, after I walk off. 💖 Peace and Healing.

 

It was definitely a psychological boost.  I was off but now that I don't have any it means I am done.

Horizon, I assume you took the left over medication to the Pharmacy? Do they dispose of it in front of you? Just wondering...I have a lot of 2mg Valium horded. Thanks.

[[Ho...]]

Hey, just wanted to check in here on day 18.  Pretty much over the upper respiratory infection and feeling good.  Was able to go to the gym yesterday and today.  I dumped my leftover Ativan in the Walgreens medication disposal kiosk yesterday which gave me a big psychological boost....done with it!   Took some magnesium last night and slept 8.5 hrs.  Feeling a solid, positive vibe today.  Hope everyone is doing well here.

Thanks for keeping us updated, you are doing well, I am so happy for you. Good idea about the drug drop off...I have tons of Valium, I will do the same, after I walk off. 💖 Peace and Healing.

 

 

 

It was definitely a psychological boost.  I was off but now that I don't have any it means I am done.

Horizon, I assume you took the left over medication to the Pharmacy? Do they dispose of it in front of you? Just wondering...I have a lot of 2mg Valium horded. Thanks.

 

Yes, I took it to Walgreen's pharmacy.  They didn't dispose of it in front of me, they have large metal box, kind of like a bank deposit box inside that you drop them in.  Not all of them have that though, I had to drive a bit to find one that did.

[[Ro...]]

Hello everyone,

I haven't been here in quite a while!

I took my last dose of klonopin on February 16th, 0.00125mg, so truly just walked off. I very fortunately had a quite uneventful taper, I attribute this to gong super slow, especially towards the end. Just a month over two years on klonopin and a two year taper, might seem an excessively long taper to some, but I figured going super slow and listening to my body when I knew it wasn't ready for a cut was so much better than trying to be a hero speed demon and rushing off only to have a terrible time and possible updose again and again. I will forever be thankful for this forum, it really did get me through some rough patches, when I was so c fused and terrified I would spiral out of control again and again! There were days at the beginning of my taper that I would spend literally all my waking moments pouring over posts just looking for reassurance, and I found that and it was invaluable to me.

I will try my best to remember to come back from time to time, if only to remind those that were in the same place as I was two years ago that hope is not lost and with patience and perseverance benzo dependancy can be overcome!

[[Ho...]]

Rosa, glad to hear that you had an uneventful taper and that your post benzo life is going well!  I was quite scared when I first came here as there are so many horror stories.  It is always reassuring to see that it is quite possible to get through this with a very minimal amount of pain.  Congratulations!!