Hi I am addicted to the benzodiazepine gidazepam (Diazepam). I want to quit.

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There are 'detox' centres (at least in the UK and US and many other counties too) where benzodiazepines are withdrawn 'safely' (that is, so that you do not suffer a seizure). But the problem with benzodiazepines is not getting off as such, but rather the protracted withdrawal effects associated with withdrawing more rapidly than our GABA system can recover. If you use the community search function, you will find many members report great difficulties after they used a detox facility to quit benzodiazepines.

Thank you for information. I understood that the problem is not to cleanse the body of benzodiazepines, but the problem is then to restore the normal functioning of GABA. Yes, that is right.

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I had to detox in a rehab center . Because my taper failed . I felt i did not tolerste Diazepam at all . Felt so terrible sick. Like poisen to me .So now 13 months off i dont know what to expect . Can i still be worse ? Feel so insecure . My age is not on my side either .

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2 hours ago, [[m...] said:

I had to detox in a rehab center . Because my taper failed . I felt i did not tolerste Diazepam at all . Felt so terrible sick. Like poisen to me .So now 13 months off i dont know what to expect . Can i still be worse ? Feel so insecure . My age is not on my side either .

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Please consider that, for very many of us at least, it seems that our GABA system has a maximum rate of recovery. If we taper off at a rate far faster than our GABA system can recover, this will result in a heightened withdrawal state for a long time after our last dose while our GABA system is slowly recovering towards equilibrium (its normal state). The better approach, of course, is to taper off just a little ahead of to where our GABA system has recovered. Yes, we might experience some withdrawal symptoms, but hopefully they are are within the sphere of what we feel is manageable.

However, following a rapid or cold turkey withdrawal, some (or many) fell very unwell - their GABA system functionality is a very long way from where it needs to be. However, at 13 months off after a detox withdrawal, there surely will have been considerable recovery towards normal GABA functioning. Though, it might not feel like it. However, at 13 months off, there is no reason to suppose that you will feel worse going forwards. And although you might experience bad days (this is common), the general progression will be towards recovery.

Then there is the problem of growing weary of feeling this way. This can take a toll and make us feel worse, when in actuality, we might be recovering, albeit slowly. If you try to be as objective as you can be about this, do you feel physically better compared with a year ago? Have there been any improvements? I should also add, we do have members who report really quite dramatic (and unexpected) improvements many months or a year or more out. What you are describing is, unfortunately, not that unusual.

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Weary of beeing like this for so long , absolute . It have been som physical improvements . For example i was so short breathing and got asthma last summer and faul . That have been so much better . It has been winter though . So less allergens . I wonder if it comes back in spring . Also the digestive system was much out of function . Thats better now . And i had severe bodypain a long periode . Cramps in my feet at night . Much hairloss , thats maybe not over , but better . Right now its more the menthal . Anxiety , dispair and thought race .Thank you Colin .

Margi .
 

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I am much alone . Get some phonecalls ,some to message and out for a drive maybe once a week . Jenifer leigh said that "if you are too much alone you never heal " . Is that true ? I dont have so many left any longer . But i have been so tired so i have preciated to have much peace also .. I have my cat and the house to keep in order . Does that seems unhealthy ?

 

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23 minutes ago, [[m...] said:

I am much alone . Get some phonecalls ,some to message and out for a drive maybe once a week . Jenifer leigh said that "if you are too much alone you never heal " . Is that true ? I dont have so many left any longer . But i have been so tired so i have preciated to have much peace also .. I have my cat and the house to keep in order . Does that seems unhealthy ?

I do not believe this. Mostly out of choice, I was alone for a long time when I was at my worst. I started mixing more again as began to feel a little better. I am not suggesting that spending most of your time alone is ideal, but sometimes we just do not feel up to going to effort of socialising. The important thing is to continue to aim towards a more normal life as and when you are able to move in that direction. Don't worry about it, but keep it as an ambition and do what you can along the way.

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Hello,

It wasn't like thatFriends, in general, nothing has changed for me, I also take one tablet a day, but I started having severe headaches, I used to drink strong tea, but I gave it up because they started problems with blood pressure, I even called an ambulance twice, they gave me an injection to lower my blood pressure. I am very tired. And it seems that my tolerance has increased because in order to feel normal I now need to take two tablets a day. Sometimes I also drink Ketanov, this painkiller, then I generally feel good. I am losing faith that it is possible to quit benzodiazepines. I'm desperate. There are thoughts of going to the hospital, but there is no opportunity yet. I don't have the strength to endure withdrawal on my own. I have a question: when I removed tea from my diet because I thought it was causing my blood pressure, I started getting headaches, could it be from the benzo? And can benzos increase blood pressure? I had noticed a bad condition in terms of blood pressure before, but apparently Not so tall. And tell me, does it happen that there is a sensation like double vision or ripples, I can’t convey this state, for example, I look at the phone, it seems like I see everything ripples and I don’t understand or understand anything? Share your experience. Thank you.

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@[...]Thank you for your support, it means a lot to me. At such moments I understand that everything is possible, this gives me motivation. I agree that the worse the condition, the greater the desire to quit benzos and the greater the motivation to take action.

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I am very happy to hear about you @[...], in fact I have been thinking about how you could have been doing. 
Have you though about actually going to the doctor and get your blood pressure checked out? Higher blood pressure might be an issue with withdrawal as I read here, but it also be a real condition where diagnostic measures and actual medication may help you. Do you have access to a family doctor (or only a hospital)? 
It is unclear to me if you take one or two pills a day, because you mention both,that might make things complicated in my opinion. I know you are feeling awful and want relief, but it would be beneficial in the long term to stick to one stabile dose. You have tried to reduce earlier and you have updosed recently, this might very well complicate your situation. I agree with @[...], planning ahead and careful actions will benefit you, if the circumstances allow this. 
I think you made a right choice with removing tea, as it is a strong stimulant and this is going to help you going through this. The tea in that region is very strong, I know that.
@Mavr this is possible, I really think so, but try to find your balance with addressing your possible health issues and stabilizing your doses. 

I wish you well, @[...]!! 

 

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@[Re...]Agree with you. Thanks for the detailed answer. Regarding the dosage. I take pills because I feel better, most often it’s one pill a day, but there are days when I feel especially bad then I drink another one in the evening. Now I went for a walk, came home, I feel pressure, although in the morning I felt good. I lay down on the bed and write messages on the forum, it distracts me and makes me feel better. I generally feel better when I write down my feelings and share them with someone. Well, something like this. And about that Quit benzodiazepines completely, I’ll probably have to go to the doctors and quit in the hospital, this is more of a psychological barrier when I have symptoms and especially new symptoms appear So that the doctors could reassure me that this is normal and how it should be. It even makes me feel better when the doctors are nearby. This is of course more on a psychological level. 

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@[Re...]The fact of the matter is that our doctors generally know little about benzodiazepine addiction, and do not take gidazepam seriously at all. This is the whole problem. Thanks for the link, I'll definitely read it. Now I will go to the Narcotics Anonymous group, since I am an addict, I wrote above that I am an alcoholic, but I have not drunk alcohol for more than 4 years. It’s just that now my vision is a little glitchy and I’m not very comfortable reading. Thank you.

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I go to online groups via telegram, they help me and level out my psychological state. 

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I noticed that when you are busy with something it is actually easier physically and psychologically.  I started going on walks, which also began to have a positive effect on my well-being.

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Hello everyone, it’s three o’clock in the morning and I can’t sleep. I woke up because I wasn’t breathing and now it feels like I’m having trouble breathing. I have nowhere to write at night except here But when I write messages, it becomes easier for me, that is, when I write down how I feel, it becomes easier for me. It’s a pity that the forum doesn’t respond as quickly as, for example, in the same messenger, but at least there’s somewhere to write. Although I have online chats of NA groups, it is also quiet there at night. Everyone rarely sleeps when possible Get feedback if someone is not sleeping. I have been on the forum for quite a long time and have not yet started stopping benzodiazepines. No, there was one attempt but it was not successful. And I understand that I won't feel any better if I don't start benzo withdrawal. I don’t know how to deal with constant stress due to the situation. But I don’t want to write about politics. To be honest, through a translator I don’t always understand the exact meaning of the answers, I think that you also don’t all understand what I write through a translator. Well, there’s nothing to be done; unfortunately, I don’t know English, and there are no such forums in Russian.On which they will understand me. Thank you all for reading.

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Hi mavr, we can understand you perfectly. 

I'm sorry your having such difficulty in this process of withdrawal from benzos. 

I couldn't help but to respond. You sound genuinely like u want to taper benzos and aren't having success. 

Do you have a taper schedule?

It doesn't sound like you do.

A schedule is the best way my friend and without one, you won't have success. So let's start over ok?

To taper off of your benzo you'll need to set your mind  on the fact that it's going to take discipline ok and that you will succeed! Benzo taper takes time and should be a slow scheduled pace to hopefully avoid unwanted symptoms. We still get symptoms but a slow taper can hopefully help to ease the symptoms you might  experience.

You can be successful and be rid of the benzo forever if you are committed to do so. 

Please write if you are ready to taper completely off of your medicine. Someone here will give you suggestions on how to accomplish this.

So if your ready to commit to a schedule, we can help you with suggestions and support. Support means we're here to talk, here to listen and try to help you understand your symptoms and hopefully help you with suggestions on how to get through them easier. 😊 

We'll be here when your ready ok.

Take care now

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Yes, I want to quit benzodiazepines, I really want to, I feel bad both with and without them. I want to get off them but they are in very small tablets(

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@[ns...] Thank you very much for your support. It’s night now and I’m writing a post, I’m having a hard time breathing and have some kind of nervous cough. The cough seems to be tearing at my throat and as soon as I calm it down it goes away and my head can’t think at all. But I am very glad that I have somewhere to come and share my condition. Thank you.

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I managed to sleep for an hour. And I woke up in a very bad state. Can you send me a link to the section in which I need to create a topic?