The Long Hold Support Group

[[Th...]]

Well  buddies, your experienced opinions were right on AGAIN!

 

It's teeth pain from withdrawal! IT'S WITHDRAWAL!

 

Yep, I went to the dentist and he can't find a thing wrong anyplace in my mouth!

 

I could have listened to you all in the first place! But it's nice to know that my teeth are in good shape!

 

Thanks!!!!!!

 

Heath  :smitten: :smitten:  :yippee:

 

Oh and to think, I COULD HAVE BEEN FISHING INSTEAD OF AT THE DENTIST'S office.

 

I grew an extra tooth 🤔. Well it's not a tooth but it's called mandipular tori and it's a bone growth poking out of my gums and looks like a small tooth. I can have it ground down under local anesthetic...yeah right! I can just chew in a different spot now. Is their a part of the body this doesn't touch! At least you got a dentist visit out of the way, glad everything looks good.

[[Al...]]

HOPE, THIRD, CANTFLY, MIYU, Freeme ATU, NOVA, AND ANYONE RLSE WHO I MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN TO LIST,

 

I AM SO SORRY THAT IT IS TAKING SO LONG FOR YOU TO FIND RELIEF. I HOPE YOUR WINDOWS COME REAL SOON.

 

AND V, I HOPE THOSE DIZZIES are gone. For me, dizzies are the worst! 

 

ME...WELL, I AM EXPERIENCING TWO NEW WDSX THAT I NEVER HAD BEFORE. THE ARM AND HAND PAINS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MY FINGERTIPS, AND NOW  THIS TEETH PAIN. 

 

I SURE HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE EVERY SINGLE WDSX THAT IS LISTED ON THE BENZO WITHDRAWAL BOARDS BEFORE I GET OFF THIS DRUG! 

 

BUT ACTUALLY, TO ME, WHEN I EXPERIENCE A NEW WDSX, I JUST THINK MY BRAIN IS HEALING IN ANOTHER AREA.    SOOO....ALL POWER TO YOU, BRAIN! 

 

Heath : 

 

Heath,

 

That's a great attitude to this process. It can be hard sometimes to see the sxs as healing but after the temporary suffering comes temporary relief. Then more cuts then the cycle starts again.

I am always amazed at how this drug has messed up so much of me. Been suffering with lower back pain the last week. Did it yo myself but it's not like I was lifting weights. Just lifted a window air conditioner the wrong way and my lower back went nuts. Started feeling a bit better so I went out and cut the 3/4 acre with lawn tractor, now the pain is back with a vengeance. It will pass and there are people in this world of ours who don't know where their next meal will come from so I count my blessings and pray for all of us.

 

P.s. I also got teeth pain at higher dose earlier on in my taper. It passed.

 

Hope you are well today.

 

 

ATU 🙏

[[HO...]]

HOPE, THIRD, CANTFLY, MIYU, Freeme ATU, NOVA, AND ANYONE RLSE WHO I MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN TO LIST,

 

I AM SO SORRY THAT IT IS TAKING SO LONG FOR YOU TO FIND RELIEF. I HOPE YOUR WINDOWS COME REAL SOON.

 

AND V, I HOPE THOSE DIZZIES are gone. For me, dizzies are the worst! 

 

ME...WELL, I AM EXPERIENCING TWO NEW WDSX THAT I NEVER HAD BEFORE. THE ARM AND HAND PAINS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MY FINGERTIPS, AND NOW  THIS TEETH PAIN.  :ticked off

Thank you Heath! I have only been holding for less than a month so I'm sure u need more time?

 

I SURE HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE EVERY SINGLE WDSX THAT IS LISTED ON THE BENZO WITHDRAWAL BOARDS BEFORE I GET OFF THIS DRUG! 

 

BUT ACTUALLY, TO ME, WHEN I EXPERIENCE A NEW WDSX, I JUST THINK MY BRAIN IS HEALING IN ANOTHER AREA.    SOOO....ALL POWER TO YOU, BRAIN! 

 

Heath : 

[[...]]

Hi everyone .......

So , having read the last few pages of posts , I have some confusion 

 

Chalky ...., you have done a long hold and feel you are ready  to cut ..... Congratulations! I wish you the best.

 

And thanks for the quotes as always Nova , you are are a great source of inspiration .

 

To the point- I don't feel stable , I am getting some longer Windows , mixed in with hard time still, but yay.. ...yesterday I was so tired I could hardly move. I slept well last night and this morning have  had a pretty good morning . Symptoms now creeping back in.

 

My question- I am definitely experiencing side effects from the Valium . I get waves of anxiety AFTER I take a dose . I've now noticed this consistently . So I get confused because it's clearly messing with my system , does this mean I just haven't adjusted to the dose I'm on yet? Or is it that I just have side effects and they maybe won't go away until I'm lower in dose ....

 

My symptoms seem to increase throughout the day.

Perhaps this is an unanswerable question. If I were to answer it myself , I think I would say , my nervous system is still very unstable , AND I am getting side effects from the V.

So , keep holding? I guess the confusion comes from the fact that some experience stability as being free of symptoms , and I've never had that really, not completely . Or even close really since I started tapering last year .

 

I too fell into the Ashton trap , grrr...... I'm so mad too that people see her as the answer to everything benzo taper related , and that , like you Nova , its so pervasive it's a really hard mindset to undo. 

 

I don't know what I'd do or where I'd be without you buddies , thank you! You are all so great . I feel truly that it is Grace that brought me here . I'm really really grateful to all you good people , you're the best. And I trust you all so much, you are honest , you have experience, wisdom  and kindness .

 

Wish I could meet you all! ( Nova, one day , when we are well and I visit my family in England , we can meet if you want  , I'd like that )

 

Love, MiYu 

 

Ps , glad your teeth are in great shape Heath , lucky you ! 

 

[[Va...]]

Hi everyone .......

So , having read the last few pages of posts , I have some confusion 

 

Chalky ....Chappy ( is that right ?) , you have done a long hold and feel you are ready  to cut ..... Congratulations! I wish you the best.

 

And thanks for the quotes as always Nova , you are are a great source of inspiration .

 

To the point- I don't feel stable , I am getting some longer Windows , mixed in with hard time still, but yay.. ...yesterday I was so tired I could hardly move. I slept well last night and this morning have  had a pretty good morning . Symptoms now creeping back in.

 

My question- I am definitely experiencing side effects from the Valium . I get waves of anxiety AFTER I take a dose . I've now noticed this consistently . So I get confused because it's clearly messing with my system , does this mean I just haven't adjusted to the dose I'm on yet? Or is it that I just have side effects and they maybe won't go away until I'm lower in dose ....

 

My symptoms seem to increase throughout the day.

Perhaps this is an unanswerable question. If I were to answer it myself , I think I would say , my nervous system is still very unstable , AND I am getting side effects from the V.

So , keep holding? I guess the confusion comes from the fact that some experience stability as being free of symptoms , and I've never had that really, not completely . Or even close really since I started tapering last year .

 

I too fell into the Ashton trap , grrr...... I'm so mad too that people see her as the answer to everything benzo taper related , and that , like you Nova , its so pervasive it's a really hard mindset to undo. 

 

I don't know what I'd do or where I'd be without you buddies , thank you! You are all so great . I feel truly that it is Grace that brought me here . I'm really really grateful to all you good people , you're the best. And I trust you all so much, you are honest , you have experience, wisdom  and kindness .

 

Wish I could meet you all! ( Nova, one day , when we are well and I visit my family in England , we can meet if you want  , I'd like that )

 

Love, MiYu 

 

Ps , glad your teeth are in great shape Heath , lucky you ! 

Hi MiYu. I determine the time to cut based on the windows. If I'm having windows that last pretty much all day, I know it's time to cut again. I could hold longer I believe and still be fine. its hard not to overthink this, bit if you aren't feeling functional and having periods of close to normal, it may be wise to hold. It's easy to overthink this but if you listen to your body and how you're feeling, you will be fine IMO.  --V

[[...]]

Hi everyone .......

So , having read the last few pages of posts , I have some confusion 

 

Chalky ....Chappy ( is that right ?) , you have done a long hold and feel you are ready  to cut ..... Congratulations! I wish you the best.

 

And thanks for the quotes as always Nova , you are are a great source of inspiration .

 

To the point- I don't feel stable , I am getting some longer Windows , mixed in with hard time still, but yay.. ...yesterday I was so tired I could hardly move. I slept well last night and this morning have  had a pretty good morning . Symptoms now creeping back in.

 

My question- I am definitely experiencing side effects from the Valium . I get waves of anxiety AFTER I take a dose . I've now noticed this consistently . So I get confused because it's clearly messing with my system , does this mean I just haven't adjusted to the dose I'm on yet? Or is it that I just have side effects and they maybe won't go away until I'm lower in dose ....

 

My symptoms seem to increase throughout the day.

Perhaps this is an unanswerable question. If I were to answer it myself , I think I would say , my nervous system is still very unstable , AND I am getting side effects from the V.

So , keep holding? I guess the confusion comes from the fact that some experience stability as being free of symptoms , and I've never had that really, not completely . Or even close really since I started tapering last year .

 

I too fell into the Ashton trap , grrr...... I'm so mad too that people see her as the answer to everything benzo taper related , and that , like you Nova , its so pervasive it's a really hard mindset to undo. 

 

I don't know what I'd do or where I'd be without you buddies , thank you! You are all so great . I feel truly that it is Grace that brought me here . I'm really really grateful to all you good people , you're the best. And I trust you all so much, you are honest , you have experience, wisdom  and kindness .

 

Wish I could meet you all! ( Nova, one day , when we are well and I visit my family in England , we can meet if you want  , I'd like that )

 

Love, MiYu 

 

Ps , glad your teeth are in great shape Heath , lucky you ! 

Hi MiYu. I determine the time to cut based on the windows. If I'm having windows that last pretty much all day, I know it's time to cut again. I could hold longer I believe and still be fine. its hard not to overthink this, bit if you aren't feeling functional and having periods of close to normal, it may be wise to hold. It's easy to overthink this but if you listen to your body and how you're feeling, you will be fine IMO.  --V

 

Thank you Valley, you're always good at the bottom line 

I am experiencing crushing fatigue after my doses too, but I've still got shaky tremor feelings and the burning of course, which may not go away. Who knows on that one.

 

Anyway , I'm not ready to cut yet. I swear this group is almost 'esoteric ' in its approach to benzo tapering .... I think that's what I like about it ! 

 

Love, MiYu

[[...]]

 

 

MiYu,

 

I hope you get a good nights sleep.

 

Thank you dear Lynn ... I actually did! Makes a big difference . Hope you are doing well , and thank you for all your support always ,

Love, MiYu 

[[...]]

Stay strong Miyu, your Windows WILL come. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

Heath

 

Thank you Heath  :smitten:

[[...]]

" I also remember thinking about it now that when my long holds back in the past did work from feeling terrible most of the time to occasionally a little better for a short while then to hell again. That it went from subtle or totally unnoticed changes  where I was convinced I was fkd for life ( yes I feel like that again today BIG TIME  ) to suddenly everything gathered momentum and got better and the same as I didn't notice things were getting better even if they did go back wards for a while. I never noticed for a while I was  really well, better than I had been for years  either!! fks sake!!  

 

That hit me when I found myself all happy one morning looking at the bus timetable to go into town I hadn't been able to go on buses or any further than the front of my home on my best days for year's previously and was also very agoraphobic for ages as well as bed ridden in agony. But ALL that went, a lot of my paranoia is from reading too much on here and other forums looking for some kind of 'EUREKA!! moment amongst all the information over load.  "

 

Dear Nova , let us know if you need reminding of this anytime ..... You are so strong , hang in there . You give so much even when you are feeling so crappy.

Love , MiYu  :smitten:

[[...]]

I've had some pretty bad side effects lately from a rescue dose but I have to say making the choice to make a really long hold has lifted a huge weight.

 

I dreaded trying to figure out when I was going to make my next cut. Always beating myself up that I was not progressing like others. Not listening to my symptoms and cutting based on time.

 

Knowing I'm free of cuts for a good time makes me feel better on the anxiety scale. I had a really bad day yesterday and really the only comfort I could think of was "well at least I don't have to cut anytime soon and I have a better chance of feeling better eventually". Not having a window in a year has been tough.

 

I'm glad I made the choice to hold until next year.

 

Hi Third ..... I'm glad you are finding some solace in knowing that you can hold and don't have to think and dread a 'timetable cut' .

You are in the right place here ,

 

MiYu 

[[ga...]]

Well  buddies, your experienced opinions were right on AGAIN!

 

It's teeth pain from withdrawal! IT'S WITHDRAWAL!

 

Yep, I went to the dentist and he can't find a thing wrong anyplace in my mouth!

 

I could have listened to you all in the first place! But it's nice to know that my teeth are in good shape!

 

Thanks!!!!!!

 

Heath  :smitten: :smitten:  :yippee:

 

Oh and to think, I COULD HAVE BEEN FISHING INSTEAD OF AT THE DENTIST'S office.

 

Great news, Heath!

[[ga...]]

HOPE, THIRD, CANTFLY, MIYU, Freeme ATU, NOVA, AND ANYONE RLSE WHO I MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN TO LIST,

 

I AM SO SORRY THAT IT IS TAKING SO LONG FOR YOU TO FIND RELIEF. I HOPE YOUR WINDOWS COME REAL SOON.

 

AND V, I HOPE THOSE DIZZIES are gone. For me, dizzies are the worst! 

 

ME...WELL, I AM EXPERIENCING TWO NEW WDSX THAT I NEVER HAD BEFORE. THE ARM AND HAND PAINS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MY FINGERTIPS, AND NOW  THIS TEETH PAIN. 

 

I SURE HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE EVERY SINGLE WDSX THAT IS LISTED ON THE BENZO WITHDRAWAL BOARDS BEFORE I GET OFF THIS DRUG! 

 

BUT ACTUALLY, TO ME, WHEN I EXPERIENCE A NEW WDSX, I JUST THINK MY BRAIN IS HEALING IN ANOTHER AREA.    SOOO....ALL POWER TO YOU, BRAIN!

 

Heath : 

 

Amen to that, Heath. We will overcome this!

[[ga...]]

This is beyond inhumaine and torturous to go through! I just want my life back!😥

 

You are doing the right thing to wait and stabilize. You will get your life back! Then benzos will tell you that you won't but they are lying. And when you come out, you will be a much stronger person. I have learned so much on this journey. Wish I could have learned things in an easier way, but I'm glad I'm not who I was before. It will come for you, too.

 

Gard

[[ga...]]

Hi everyone .......

So , having read the last few pages of posts , I have some confusion 

 

Chalky ...., you have done a long hold and feel you are ready  to cut ..... Congratulations! I wish you the best.

 

And thanks for the quotes as always Nova , you are are a great source of inspiration .

 

To the point- I don't feel stable , I am getting some longer Windows , mixed in with hard time still, but yay.. ...yesterday I was so tired I could hardly move. I slept well last night and this morning have  had a pretty good morning . Symptoms now creeping back in.

 

My question- I am definitely experiencing side effects from the Valium . I get waves of anxiety AFTER I take a dose . I've now noticed this consistently . So I get confused because it's clearly messing with my system , does this mean I just haven't adjusted to the dose I'm on yet? Or is it that I just have side effects and they maybe won't go away until I'm lower in dose ....

 

My symptoms seem to increase throughout the day.

Perhaps this is an unanswerable question. If I were to answer it myself , I think I would say , my nervous system is still very unstable , AND I am getting side effects from the V.

So , keep holding? I guess the confusion comes from the fact that some experience stability as being free of symptoms , and I've never had that really, not completely . Or even close really since I started tapering last year .

 

I too fell into the Ashton trap , grrr...... I'm so mad too that people see her as the answer to everything benzo taper related , and that , like you Nova , its so pervasive it's a really hard mindset to undo. 

 

I don't know what I'd do or where I'd be without you buddies , thank you! You are all so great . I feel truly that it is Grace that brought me here . I'm really really grateful to all you good people , you're the best. And I trust you all so much, you are honest , you have experience, wisdom  and kindness .

 

Wish I could meet you all! ( Nova, one day , when we are well and I visit my family in England , we can meet if you want  , I'd like that )

 

Love, MiYu 

 

Ps , glad your teeth are in great shape Heath , lucky you ! 

 

I've never been symptom-free, either. I am happy if I am functioning. That means I am taking care of myself, eating properly, getting out a couple of times a week, doing my P.T., not leaning on my family and friends too much. The fatigue is always there. The agoraphobia nibbles at the edges of my life all the time. My anxiety is always higher than what would be normal. But it is nothing, no nothing, like before my long hold. So I consider my symptoms to be manageable and am sloth-cutting. If they become unmanageable, I will hold again and try a slower rater. (What's slower than a sloth? )

 

Gard

[[ga...]]

"I have no idea! I'm thinking about it.

Will get back to you next year."

http://kids.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/kids/photos/animals/Mammals/Q-Z/sloth-beach-upside-down.jpg.adapt.945.1.jpg

[[Va...]]

 

(What's slower than a sloth? )

 

Gard

 

Answer: a garden snail. 

 

[[ga...]]

 

(What's slower than a sloth? )

 

Gard

 

Answer: a garden snail. 

 

 

Cover your eyes, BG!!!

[[Ge...]]

May I join too???

 

I have just begun this idea of long holds so I will need a lot of advice as we go along

 

Welcome LaineyK!!!  I found refuge here too, after benzos kicked my a**!!

[[...]]

I've never been symptom-free, either. I am happy if I am functioning. That means I am taking care of myself, eating properly, getting out a couple of times a week, doing my P.T., not leaning on my family and friends too much. The fatigue is always there. The agoraphobia nibbles at the edges of my life all the time. My anxiety is always higher than what would be normal. But it is nothing, no nothing, like before my long hold. So I consider my symptoms to be manageable and am sloth-cutting. If they become unmanageable, I will hold again and try a slower rater. (What's slower than a sloth? )

 

Yes Gard , I'll be happy to be functional enough even with symptoms , and still be able to taper. I'm not quite there yet , as I'm pretty delicate in the balance right now I feel. I actually don't have so much anxiety , it's more physical for me. So that's what makes it hard to be more than minimally functional at the moment . Like you , I can take care of myself , feed myself , do the dishes etc, occasional light cleaning , but I am too shaky to do much else , and get tired very easily.

I hope to improve more than this before I start tapering again. And I have become SO forgetful it's scary! 

Frustrating, I make a list of groceries then leave it behind , put something somewhere ' safe ' and forget where that is etc! Have to keep things pretty simple right now .....

So I'm with you slothing , or actually I wonder if sloths spend time not moving at all? Maybe we need another creature .....? Certain reptiles keep still for very long periods of time .....just stick their tongues out occasionally for a bite of something 

 

Love , MiYu 

 

 

[[be...]]

May I join too???

 

I have just begun this idea of long holds so I will need a lot of advice as we go along

 

Welcome LaineyK!!!  I found refuge here too, after benzos kicked my a**!!

Hey George I am confused the post above is from 2016 did you mean to post that.??

[[ga...]]

I've never been symptom-free, either. I am happy if I am functioning. That means I am taking care of myself, eating properly, getting out a couple of times a week, doing my P.T., not leaning on my family and friends too much. The fatigue is always there. The agoraphobia nibbles at the edges of my life all the time. My anxiety is always higher than what would be normal. But it is nothing, no nothing, like before my long hold. So I consider my symptoms to be manageable and am sloth-cutting. If they become unmanageable, I will hold again and try a slower rater. (What's slower than a sloth? )

 

Yes Gard , I'll be happy to be functional enough even with symptoms , and still be able to taper. I'm not quite there yet , as I'm pretty delicate in the balance right now I feel. I actually don't have so much anxiety , it's more physical for me. So that's what makes it hard to be more than minimally functional at the moment . Like you , I can take care of myself , feed myself , do the dishes etc, occasional light cleaning , but I am too shaky to do much else , and get tired very easily.

I hope to improve more than this before I start tapering again. And I have become SO forgetful it's scary! 

Frustrating, I make a list of groceries then leave it behind , put something somewhere ' safe ' and forget where that is etc! Have to keep things pretty simple right now .....

So I'm with you slothing , or actually I wonder if sloths spend time not moving at all? Maybe we need another creature .....? Certain amphibians keep still for very long periods of time .....just stick their tongues out occasionally for a bite of something 

 

Love , MiYu 

 

I'm sorry about all your symptoms still being so bothersome. I can so relate to the fatigue and the forgetfulness. My memory is awful. I'm trying to remember not to talk negatively to myself every time I forget something. Today I actually said, "Nice catch," to myself when I remembered something better-late-than-never. In the past I would have berated myself. These little tweak to my thinking are helping me get through this.

 

And, yes, I'm pretty sure sloths spend a lot of time not moving. Yay, sloths!

 

Gard

[[be...]]

[move]

"TURTLES RULE". :thumbsup: [/move]

[[...]]

I've never been symptom-free, either. I am happy if I am functioning. That means I am taking care of myself, eating properly, getting out a couple of times a week, doing my P.T., not leaning on my family and friends too much. The fatigue is always there. The agoraphobia nibbles at the edges of my life all the time. My anxiety is always higher than what would be normal. But it is nothing, no nothing, like before my long hold. So I consider my symptoms to be manageable and am sloth-cutting. If they become unmanageable, I will hold again and try a slower rater. (What's slower than a sloth? )

 

Yes Gard , I'll be happy to be functional enough even with symptoms , and still be able to taper. I'm not quite there yet , as I'm pretty delicate in the balance right now I feel. I actually don't have so much anxiety , it's more physical for me. So that's what makes it hard to be more than minimally functional at the moment . Like you , I can take care of myself , feed myself , do the dishes etc, occasional light cleaning , but I am too shaky to do much else , and get tired very easily.

I hope to improve more than this before I start tapering again. And I have become SO forgetful it's scary! 

Frustrating, I make a list of groceries then leave it behind , put something somewhere ' safe ' and forget where that is etc! Have to keep things pretty simple right now .....

So I'm with you slothing , or actually I wonder if sloths spend time not moving at all? Maybe we need another creature .....? Certain amphibians keep still for very long periods of time .....just stick their tongues out occasionally for a bite of something 

 

Love , MiYu 

 

I'm sorry about all your symptoms still being so bothersome. I can so relate to the fatigue and the forgetfulness. My memory is awful. I'm trying to remember not to talk negatively to myself every time I forget something. Today I actually said, "Nice catch," to myself when I remembered something better-late-than-never. In the past I would have berated myself. These little tweak to my thinking are helping me get through this.

 

And, yes, I'm pretty sure sloths spend a lot of time not moving. Yay, sloths!

 

Gard

 

Thanks Gard .... I'll just keep holding ... I'm starting to feel a bit better after my last wave.

Well done one changing your self compassion 

 

( and I meant reptiles  )

[[be...]]

I've never been symptom-free, either. I am happy if I am functioning. That means I am taking care of myself, eating properly, getting out a couple of times a week, doing my P.T., not leaning on my family and friends too much. The fatigue is always there. The agoraphobia nibbles at the edges of my life all the time. My anxiety is always higher than what would be normal. But it is nothing, no nothing, like before my long hold. So I consider my symptoms to be manageable and am sloth-cutting. If they become unmanageable, I will hold again and try a slower rater. (What's slower than a sloth? )

 

Yes Gard , I'll be happy to be functional enough even with symptoms , and still be able to taper. I'm not quite there yet , as I'm pretty delicate in the balance right now I feel. I actually don't have so much anxiety , it's more physical for me. So that's what makes it hard to be more than minimally functional at the moment . Like you , I can take care of myself , feed myself , do the dishes etc, occasional light cleaning , but I am too shaky to do much else , and get tired very easily.

I hope to improve more than this before I start tapering again. And I have become SO forgetful it's scary! 

Frustrating, I make a list of groceries then leave it behind , put something somewhere ' safe ' and forget where that is etc! Have to keep things pretty simple right now .....

So I'm with you slothing , or actually I wonder if sloths spend time not moving at all? Maybe we need another creature .....? Certain amphibians keep still for very long periods of time .....just stick their tongues out occasionally for a bite of something 

 

Love , MiYu 

 

I'm sorry about all your symptoms still being so bothersome. I can so relate to the fatigue and the forgetfulness. My memory is awful. I'm trying to remember not to talk negatively to myself every time I forget something. Today I actually said, "Nice catch," to myself when I remembered something better-late-than-never. In the past I would have berated myself. These little tweak to my thinking are helping me get through this.

 

And, yes, I'm pretty sure sloths spend a lot of time not moving. Yay, sloths!

 

Gard

 

Thanks Gard .... I'll just keep holding ... I'm starting to feel a bit better after my last wave.

Well done one changing your self compassion 

 

( and I meant reptiles  )

Please no reptiles....

[[Ge...]]

May I join too???

 

I have just begun this idea of long holds so I will need a lot of advice as we go along

 

Welcome LaineyK!!!  I found refuge here too, after benzos kicked my a**!!

Hey George I am confused the post above is from 2016 did you mean to post that.??

 

haha.. Apparently I still have benzo brain.. don't know how I got so confused .. haha <3