Stupid sentences "addiction specialists" say.

[[La...]]

A little bit of not-so-funny humor. Beware of those quacks with real medical diplomas. They are just as dangerous as those who prescribe benzos. I only visited one during WD, and teared to pieces his rxs as soon as I got out of his office. Some of the sentences are real, or devised by me based on real stories or medical litterature:

 

1) "I give my patients a tryciclic AD for 1 month untill finding their maximum tolerable dose. Then I simply ask them to cold turkey, no matter how high their dose is. This method is a true miracle, they can switch, say, 10 benzo pills / day to the AD with no consequences. They themselved don´t believe in that moment how easy it was."

 

2) "It´s all psychological. Have you considered going to a AA group?"

 

3) "I know you have cravings for benzos, but you must resist. Some people have found comfort in yoga".

 

4) "A 10 day taper from benzos is more than enough. In most cases even a 3 day one is fine".

 

5) "Phenobarbital will allow you to quit benzos without even noticing it".

 

6) "Benzo withdrawal is completely over in a month. In very severe cases, it can last up to two months".

 

7) "After one month you´ll be a new person. If you resist your cravings for that months, you´re done."

 

"¿You said you cold turkeyed valium yesterday and are experiencing no symptoms? ¡Great, how lucky you are! Do your normal life from this moment on".

 

9) "This symptom cannot be withdrawal, you´re four months off and besides, withdrawal effects are only anxiety, insonmia, tremors, cravings (f**k with their cravings) and light dizziness, not all this you are telling me. What you need is therapy".

 

10) "This cannot be withdrawal, YOU ARE STILL TAKING YOUR REGULAR DOSE OF YEARS!!!

 

11) "This cannot be withdrawal, you are only tapering. You´re way too nervous regarding health issues".

 

12) "This cannot be withdrawal, you only took the drug for some months"

 

13) "Benzo withdrawal is mild comparing to opiates and other drugs. You´re lucky".

 

14) "Please go to a clinic, ask for detox, forget about your stressful life, be calm for a couple of weeks there, give yourself a time, and go back refreshed to your normal life in 15 days".

 

15) "It´s not okey to take benzos for life. I´m gonna switch you to zolpidem, which will make you sleep well with complete safety".

 

Feel free to add more to the list. We can laugh a little, but this is serious stuff. Since all believe the same preposterous things, our eyes must be perhaps aimed at universities. What´s going on with them?

[[ki...]]

Oh how I so WISH that it was all this easy! How great would it be to just relax in rehab for a couple weeks and come out super inspired for life? Where did you find all these anyway? This hasn't been your personal experience has it?? If it has, then that's really pretty sickening 

[[Cr...]]

My addiction specialist is actually pretty great. Not much she can do for me, which she admits, but has prescribed all she could to help, vistaril, clonodine, remeron (all the "safer" wd meds) She is an internist and regularly talks shit on psych's and says they dont know any more about the meds they prescribe than their patients, and that it is all guesswork. Shes great, but is no help (not her fault, there is no help for us)

[[88...]]

Here's a common one:

"It can't possibly be causing any problems. It's out of your system now!"

 

Okay, doc...try this pill...

 

Iggy

[[mi...]]

doc says...."maybe we should go up in dose"........I walked out and found a new doctor

[[La...]]

My addiction specialist is actually pretty great. Not much she can do for me, which she admits, but has prescribed all she could to help, vistaril, clonodine, remeron (all the "safer" wd meds) She is an internist and regularly talks shit on psych's and says they dont know any more about the meds they prescribe than their patients, and that it is all guesswork. Shes great, but is no help (not her fault, there is no help for us)

 

Like you said, she´s an INTERNIST. I also had an internist, who was much better that psychiatrist or addiction doctors.

 

Oh how I so WISH that it was all this easy! How great would it be to just relax in rehab for a couple weeks and come out super inspired for life? Where did you find all these anyway? This hasn't been your personal experience has it?? If it has, then that's really pretty sickening 

 

Kiwi, part was personal experience and part is ehat I¨ve read from others´personal experience. Of course there can be exceptions, but in general this is how they think.

[[Ro...]]

If we all passed a hat around we could hire some...'folks' to kidnap those folks who say the above and give them a literal taste of their own medicine... >

[[La...]]

Well, I wouldn´t wish this terrible 3 year hell to anybody. But something milder, as 3 years tied and tortured by those "folks", YES.     

[[Ga...]]

Oh how I so WISH that it was all this easy! How great would it be to just relax in rehab for a couple weeks and come out super inspired for life? Where did you find all these anyway? This hasn't been your personal experience has it?? If it has, then that's really pretty sickening 

 

me too

 

lol its a joke isnt it??

[[La...]]

Well, it´s a joke yes... (or not)

 

Oh, and there´s another one they say:

 

"It´s 200 dollars, sir..."

[[MT...]]

My pdoc kept telling me he thought I had somatiform disorder because of all of my symptoms since there was no way it was wd. After a while I mostly didn't tell him and stopped seeing him as soon as I could.

[[Cr...]]

I did see one that said, "this is just anxiety" (I've never had anxiety)

[[...]]

#1 "If you want to stop , just stop ! It's not Benzos , you need AD , you have a mental disorder ." ... this Book says ... " Good Bye !

 

#2 "I don't know why you want to stop Benzos , No one wants to stop ."

 

#3 "You could have died !" "You have to taper slowly ." dah !

[[Cr...]]

Take this, it's not addictive (Lyrica)

[[Cl...]]

"At last! you are down to 0.75mg clonazepam, this dose is nothing, so you can stop taking it today with no problems at all"

[[Te...]]

My EX-Cardio doc says it's not my heart, after a plethora of tests for "perceived palpitations"...but he can me write a script for Xanax...

[[Cr...]]

"At last! you are down to 0.75mg clonazepam, this dose is nothing, so you can stop taking it today with no problems at all"

Lol....I CT'ed off .5mg originally.....Klonopin dose MG's are tricky. They are made to seem so small.

[[La...]]

I received this PM today, from a female buddy, another victim of those SONS OF A B***

 

"Major trauma today. Went to addiction specialist, ok stupid idea, now I know. He said, in front of my husband I was lying about the fact I was an addict. He would not in any way prescribe any meds. To me, I needed to work a 12 step programMy memory was fine I was using it basically to get meds. I was hoping to get sero quell for sleep. Propanal for anxiety. My husband was in room, and dr said I was not in withdrawal. And before my eyes, my husband who had been agreeing with me, did not say anything and bought his bulls hit hook line and sinker. I'm so distraught. My husband has been so supportive. I don't know how I'm going to recover from this. Vyvanse a stimulant was the med that made me feel, at first, alive, but then I had my first panic attack. I continued on the vyvanse and klonipin because it felt worth it to not feel blah and I thought it was the answer. Seriously does that make me an addict. I didn't go seeking anything addictive. I was hoping to find something to help my symptoms. Where do I go from here. How do I go on. I'm at such I lost. Please help. I want to just quit the 200 mg of trazodone and 800 mgs og gabapenten.  I don't know what they are doing to me. How am I going to function without sleep. I'm at such a loss of how to recover from this I feel abusive session. Plus feeling loss of my husband's support. Can I forgive him?"

[[Cr...]]

I received this PM today, from a female buddy, another victim of those SONS OF A B***

 

"Major trauma today. Went to addiction specialist, ok stupid idea, now I know. He said, in front of my husband I was lying about the fact I was an addict. He would not in any way prescribe any meds. To me, I needed to work a 12 step programMy memory was fine I was using it basically to get meds. I was hoping to get sero quell for sleep. Propanal for anxiety. My husband was in room, and dr said I was not in withdrawal. And before my eyes, my husband who had been agreeing with me, did not say anything and bought his bulls hit hook line and sinker. I'm so distraught. My husband has been so supportive. I don't know how I'm going to recover from this. Vyvanse a stimulant was the med that made me feel, at first, alive, but then I had my first panic attack. I continued on the vyvanse and klonipin because it felt worth it to not feel blah and I thought it was the answer. Seriously does that make me an addict. I didn't go seeking anything addictive. I was hoping to find something to help my symptoms. Where do I go from here. How do I go on. I'm at such I lost. Please help. I want to just quit the 200 mg of trazodone and 800 mgs og gabapenten.  I don't know what they are doing to me. How am I going to function without sleep. I'm at such a loss of how to recover from this I feel abusive session. Plus feeling loss of my husband's support. Can I forgive him?"

I know who you are talking about....Do me a favor and tell her to tell her husband to look up that "specialists" qualifications, and then have her show him Dr. Heather Ashtons qualifications.....These doctors make me sick....but in all honesty, dealing with any other addiction, what they are doing is the accepted method, because no other wd lasts this long.

[[MT...]]

Laudante, I'm sorry that happened to you. I think it's confusing for those in our lives to hear things from credentialed people that conflict with what we're telling them. What we say is the informed, but minority, opinion.

 

Please don't suddenly stop the meds you're on. That will make you worse. Insomnia sucks but it gets better as we heal.

[[La...]]

MT, I was quoting another benzo buddy, but thanks anyways. I learned my lesson about CTs the hard way, but what´s done is done.

[[88...]]

How about this from a doctor:

It can't hurt  to try it.