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Does a slow taper ensure fewer and less intense withdrawal at the end?

 

And are the down regulated GABA receptors healing during slow withdrawal or does that only happen once free?

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I don't think you could say it "ensures" fewer and less intense withdrawal symptoms at the end for a particular person but, on average, that seems to be the way it works out.  A friend of my calls it "stacking the deck in your favor".  ;)  And I am of the opinion that the GABA receptors begin healing as the benzos leave your system but can't complete the process until you are off.
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Thank You

 

My concern at the moment is that I am tapering too slow although everyone tells me there is no such thing as too slow.

 

I'm tapering down from 3mg clonazepam at a rate of .125/2weeks.

 

I'm wondering if I should try .25/2weeks and then maybe slow down as  I approach 1mg.

 

Or stay with .125 taper just do a 7-10 day taper instead of 2 weeks. Sounds like 2 weeks is the standard time frame beyween cuts.

 

I do really well with cuts until about day 8 or 9 feel really bad till I make another cut. This whole experience is very odd

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I think there is such a thing as "too slow" but that you aren't there.  I don't really see the harm in trying a bit larger cut now.  Maybe a compromise, like .125mg every 10 days rather than 2 weeks, which would give you a .25mg cut over 3 weeks.  Generally speaking, smaller more frequent cuts are better tolerated than larger less frequent ones.  (Kind of the principla behind the titration method.)
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Hello ScottA,

 

I see you are tapering from Klonopin.  I put together some information that may be helpful. I am dry-cutting. Here is what I have learned from my journey along with 3 examples of dose reductions at the bottom.

 

 

 

You get the % by taking the dose reduction and dividing it by the dose you are currently at. For example; a 0.03125mg dose reduction from 0.5mg is a 6.25% dose reduction.  0.03125 divided by 0.5 = 6.25% reduction.

 

I have been dry-cutting. I have learned some important things about this process for me:

 

1) I have found that I need to hold for no shorter than 2 weeks. . That is because Klonopin has a half-life of 30 to 40 hours and the generic clonazepam has a half-life of 18 to 50 hours. It takes five half-lives to get a dose reduction out of our system.

2) I listen to my body and hold until it feels like it has adjusted to the new lower dose. I usually get a few lower symptom days before I do another dose reduction.

3) My average holds have been 2 to 4 weeks

4) In order to keep the symptoms at a tolerable level, I keep my cuts around 10% or lower.

5) I have been able to keep my cuts below 10% by going to .03125mg when I hit .5mg of Klonopin.

 

 

 

In case you are interested in how I am able to dry cut the lower doses:

 

Cutting .25mg:

 

Here is how I am able to get the .25mg pieces. I break the .5mg tablet in half.  The brand Klonopin is scored and breaks in half easily.

 

 

Cutting .125mg

 

Take the .25mg and cut that in half. That is a .125mg piece. . I use an angle razor like a box cutter. And cut on hard surface like glass or a mirror.

 

Cutting .0625mg

 

I have the 0.5mg Klonopin.

 

I break the 0.5mg tablet in half then, I cut 1/4th off of that. I use an angle razor like a box cutter. I have found that the razor is thinner and sharper than the pill splitters I have worked with. Yet, I have read that some have no problem using pill splitters.

 

I cut the 1/4 off of the tablet on a glass surface. I have found the glass surface to be hard enough to get a clean cut. I press down firm and fairly fast. The 1/4 breaks away (from the .25mg). Now I have 0.0625mg.

 

NOTE: If you are unable to get a chip that is .0625 mg then you could crush it into powder. That would work as well. You would take a .25 mg piece and separate it into 4 piles.

 

Cutting .03125mg (Powder)

 

The way I get the .03125mg is I crush a .25mg piece and separate the powder into 8 piles. I happen to have a window scraper so that is what I use or you could use a razor. I crush the .25mg on a dinner plate with the top part of a pill crusher. Then use the window scraper or razor to separate the pile into 8. Each pile is .03125mg.

 

Note: (What I do is crush the portion of the tablet. Then I put it in one pile. I do my best with the razor to separate the pile into two. Then I take the two piles and separate them into two. That makes four piles. Then I take those and separate them into two more piles. That makes eight.)

 

Cutting .0156mg (Powder)

 

The way I would get a .0156mg cut is by crushing .125mg piece (to get the .125mg, cut the .25mg in half). Then crush the .125mg on a dinner plate, into powder with the top of a pill crusher. I happen to have a window scraper so that is what I use or you could use a razor. Then separate the piles into 8. Each pile is .0156mg.

 

NOTE: With the powder, here is how I take it. I lick my finger, press it on the powder, then I put the powder in my mouth. Then I drink some water after.

 

 

 

 

Here is an example from 2.25mg with a .25mg dose reduction:

0.5mg

0.5mg

0.5mg

0.5mg

-------------

2.0mg Total

That is an 11% dose reduction

 

Here is an example from 2mg with a .25mg dose reduction:

0.5mg

0.5mg

0.5mg

0.25mg

--------------

1.75mg Total

That is a 12.5% dose reduction.

 

Here is an example from 2mg with a .125mg dose reduction:

0.5mg

0.5mg

0.5mg

0.25mg

0.125mg

---------------------

1.875mg Total

That is a 6.25% dose reduction.

 

I hope this is helpful,

 

Summer

 

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