do doctors know what we are going thru

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I want to know if doctors know what we are all going through cause if they do then why do they still rx this sh#* out and if they don't know-WHY!? I have been to many doctors- some reputable, and none of them said anything about W/D- they all say I have some chronic condition but they don't know what it is- all tests have come back normal. Why isn't there a doctor that can fix this? Why do we have to go through hell trying to figure out how to stop this- taking other drugs, weaning slowly, trying herbal stuff and just trying to live for one more day. Fighting for comfort, to be able to do simple things.I keep searching for the answers. I want to help ANYONE who might be led into this cycle of madness, out of it, prevent any more people from getting sucked in. I think that is the only reason I haven't died yet.I'm probably going to get kicked off this or be blacklisted, but I am just so angry!

[[Ho...]]

You're not going to get kicked off the forum, shyhamlet. You're certainly allowed to voice your frustration. We only get concerned if a topic turns into doctor bashing. Your post isn't doctor bashing. However I have moved it to the Chewing The Fat board as this is more appropriate for this discussion.

 

I understand your frustration and I share it as do many of our members. I wish I had answers to your questions. I don't. That's why this forum is here. There is certainly a lack of support by many doctors. I haven't a clue as to why.

 

You're welcome to post your thoughts about this. I understand the anger and the need to vent. For future information, I'll leave a link to our Anti-doctor and Anti-psychiatrist Policy.  http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=13141.0

 

 

 

 

[[Te...]]

Do Doctors Know What We Are Going Thru?  NO...but I'm sure they will be happy to write you more prescriptions to address the symptoms you are describing. 

 

 

Taz 

[[Ho...]]

I do feel it's important to vent but I'd like to remind anyone who is posting to this thread not to make sweeping statements about doctors. You can discuss your own experiences with your doctors but making negative generalizations about doctors, is against the FUM of BenzoBuddies.

 

Anti-doctor and Anti-psychiatry Sentiments Advisory

[[Te...]]

I do feel it's important to vent but I'd like to remind anyone who is posting to this thread not to make sweeping statements about doctors. You can discuss your own experiences with your doctors but making negative generalizations about doctors, is against the FUM of BenzoBuddies.

 

Anti-doctor and Anti-psychiatry Sentiments Advisory

 

Sorry about that...it will not happen, again but that is my personal experience.  Next time I will certainly be more cautious and qualify my statement as my own personal experience. 

 

Taz

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I thought my Psych Dr. (now my ex) would somewhat support me (he was the first to give me 5mg diazepam) with my tapering plan with diazepam.  But, he doesn't agree with equivalency (1mg clonazepam = 20mg diazepam).  My apptmt was moved by his secretary from mid-March to end of May. When I called and requested more diazepam, a script was called into the pharmacist and it was for...(drum roll)... 11 pills (5mg of diazepam) and 21 pills (2mg of diazepam) - that was it!!!  I was blown away.  Wow, good one. Yet if I wanted 80 pills of .5mg of clonazepam - Hey No Problem!  That would have been filled.  Figure that one out.

 

Thank God my GP (family doctor) is on board with my diazepam tapering program and understands it will take about 1 year; but my own Psych Dr who has treated me since 2005 and was giving out clonazepam like "candy" won't even support my diazepam taper because, I guess, it is such a BAD WORD where I live.

 

Danni

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I do not know why Valium has become so unpopular for patients to get but it could be it was the oldest and most abused as in over prescribed benzo so doctors tend to shy away. Its also closely regulated.

Doctors don't have a clue as to managing w/d/ I was on Ativan 1.5 mg for 6-7 weeks. C/T started w/d symptom Some one ADDICTION doc who does SUBOXONE  gave me 12 5Mg Val..told me to take 2 a day for 3 day and the rest one a day and see him in 9 days. SCHMUCK ....to be sure and for good measure thru in 15 Zoloft 50 mg. Why add that?

 

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In my experience of working with doctors..... I can honestly say that they feel the short acting benzos are easier to discontinue and more effective than Valium.  During the 60's thru the 80's, Valium was the most popular abused benzo on the streets.  Now, it's Xanax. 

 

In my area of the country, Xanax is known on the street as "Handlebars" or "Bars" and that comes from the shape and name brand stamped on the first ones that hit the streets.  Unfortunately....from what I'm seeing in the hospital, on a day to day basis, Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan and Vicodin are handed out like candy. It's sad but very true.

 

Taz

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In my experience of working with doctors..... I can honestly say that they feel the short acting benzos are easier to discontinue and more effective than Valium.  During the 60's thru the 80's, Valium was the most popular abused benzo on the streets.  Now, it's Xanax. 

 

You can thank a marketing campaign that implied Xanax was "less addictive" than Valium for that. Interesting, when Bayer first brought diacetylmorphine (Heroin) to market in the US, the marketing was that it was "less addictive" than morphine.

 

Because of the short elimination half life of Xanax (and Heroin, for that matter), it doesn't accumulate the same way Valium or Klonopin does, so if it is only used for 1-2 weeks it will not stack up to the same concentrations in blood & fat tissue, and so in that regard it is "less addictive". However, the fast action also means it kicks in fast, which makes Xanax (and Heroin) more desirable from an abuse point of view, and also makes Xanax a lot harder to kick than Valium because of the difficulty of maintaining constant blood levels during a taper. This last point is less of a concern with Heroin simply because narcotics can be cold-turkeyed safely, and in fact that's the generally advised method of cessation because those drugs are abused to get high in a way that's just not possible with benzos, which makes it much harder for people addicted to them to be trusted to manage a taper off them (IE, they are more prone to relapse to get high).