Gaba and Glutamate ~~ Can hardly eat anything

[Guest [my...]]

I know these are cousins in the brain if you will.  I was reading something on here about how Glutamate is upregulated during withdrawl.  Can anyone elaborate?  The bottom line is I can't eat anything hardly.  I know mostly all the hidden names for msg and everything I eat I react to because it has msg in it.  I am staying away from it and my diet is null and void.  I'm wondering after this whole process is over do the neurotransmitters go into harmony again?  I can't take any supplements either except magnesium.  And it has to be ordered with nothing in it.  I'm almost malnutrioned it feels.  I have read where this does not bother some people and then there are some that it does.  I'm just wondering about this.  I do not eat any processed food, but this is still very hard and much limited.  My medicines have to be compounded. 

 

Thanks,

Mamie

[[Cr...]]

It is better to eat processed foods than nothing at all.  Even if MSG does flare up your symptoms, it is better to eat than to deprive yourself of food.  During withdrawal our bodies need nutrients.  If you think you are doing your body any favors by not eating simply because most foods contain MSG, then you may be causing far more harm to your body than withdrawal ever can.  If your body is sensitive enough to be revved up by MSG, think how sensitive and revved up it will be to receiving little to no nutrients.

 

I myself have noticed that certain foods revved me up during withdrawal and in the beginning I tried hard to avoid so many kinds of foods.  It just became too much and I realized that I was adding stress into my life by trying to figure out the foods I could/ could not eat.  Don't be restrictive, be smart.  Everyone knows that it is healthier to choose cereal over donuts, water over soda, lean meat over fried food.  Life became easier when I stopped stressing over the labels/ingredients and just ate healthier period.  The point is that you need to eat.

 

If you absolutely feel it is necessary to avoid MSG at all costs, then you should work out a meal plan that involves lots of organic foods/meats/smoothies.  Just know that even if MSG does indeed increase your withdrawal symptoms, it will not prevent or reverse your healing progress.  Many people have gotten through withdrawal and healed eating pretty much whatever they wanted.  In the end, even bad food (Big Mac, Fries?) is better than no food.

 

Take care,

 

Crono

[[fi...]]

I eat mostly salmon and oatmeal (along with fruits and veggies).  I also add in some red meat occasionally.  For me, I've had no issues and these foods generally do not have MSG in them.  You could also try drinking Ensure (or something similar) to make sure you are getting sufficient calories and nutrients daily.

 

Wishing you well ...

 

fg

[Guest [my...]]

I guess I did not explain it right.  MSG does to me what MSG does to other people who are not on or withdrawing from benzos.  But in my case I was just wondering IF it might have anything to do with the benzos and the gaba/glutamate connection and I suppose there is no way of finding out.  Was just wondering if they even out on there own once one is healed. So I have to have NO MSG.  It does horrbile things to you, not to mention what w/d does.  I was reading on here where the glutamate receptors are in overdrive while the Gaba receptors are downregulated.  Just venting I suppose. 

 

Thanks.

[[Bi...]]

I will tell you what my stomach does.. it builds up this acidic pressure or something. I cannot explain it. I notice it happens with adrenaline. I agree with Crono, it's best to eat. I eat foods that are healthy at the time. I do eat pizza and other stuff on an occasion.

 

Billy.

[[sp...]]

There's no real evidence that consuming MSG results in more glutamate on the other side of the blood brain barrier, but it's also not that hard to avoid if you stick to a basic diet of largely vegetables and fruit, which is good for you for a lot of other reasons as well.

 

I know people who keep raw msg in their pantry and put ungodly amounts of it in things; if this increased synaptic glutamate levels, they wold be having seizures by now.

[[pa...]]

I had a lot of problems with food about 8 months ago.  After determining I was not allergic to anything, I went on a low histamine diet for about 2 months, which helped.  Histamine is also an excitatory neurotransmitter.  I gradually reintroduced foods with no problems.  One of the last things I tried was chicken livers (I love them) and I was just fine - Hooray!!  I've not tried soy products or eggplant yet, but eggplant will be soon.  I think it's a good idea not to dwell on what you can or cannot eat.  Find some things that are okay and go from there.  For me salmon, brown rice, turkey, eggs and most fruits and vegetables.  These will all strengthen your body and help in recovery.  Good luck,

Paresthesia