The Long Hold Support Group

[[Tr...]]

Hey Janice,

I am still with you when it comes to fear of not having my Xanax. I fight that fear everyday. I do the what ifs all the time. What if my Dr retires or what if he changes his mind about maintaining me, he thinks he is just maintaing me, and says you have to get off this drug and you can do it by... Fill in the blank. My worst nightmare is that he'll pull what my last Dr did and give me a time frame to get off the drug, one I can't possibly do of course without killing myself in the process.. it's a hard thing to live with. Being physically dependant on this drug and not having any control over that makes me crazy, however I fight those thoughts everyday and try not to stay in that space for to long. I do find having a back up plan at least in my mind helps.

TT,4 ever trying 🙄

[[Tr...]]

Good morning LHSG hoping everyone has a better day.

Morning Troch l really hope you have less pain today.l think a walk definitely helps.Mary has given you good advice so perhaps you could consider her suggestions.l have no doubt you are having withdrawal symptoms which are causing the pain.Let us know how you are honey.love to you.X

Morning Trish l have been watching your back for around 2 years now and you are asking Espy for a security guard to carry your big ass 🤔😕.Are you saying l am not doing a good job 😡? Well l am happy to step back and l could maybe watch his back instead 😝.Rest honey you will get your mojo back.love you my lST X

Morning Lady Mary great advice to all.How are you? Have you used the enso yet? Please don't overdo the screen time and rest your peepers please.love you my lady Mary.X

Morning Suzy what does your therapist talk about?Can you change your therapist to someone who can do cbt?l don't really see her purpose from what you have said here.Have you asked her what she specialises in?let us know what you decide to do.love you.X

Good morning Olive has your cold lifted?Are you feeling much the same as usual?l hope you are feeling ok my love.love you.X

Morning Final it always hits and it always settles down given enough time.Hang in there honey.love you.X

Morning Janice l dare say we have one hell of a partay when l slide off this poison 🎉.l am still holding until hopefully this settles down a tad.l haven't put any target on this so it will happen when the time is right.Try to enjoy some of your day honey.love you.X

Oh twinny you know you're first and foremost with me 😁.. you are way too tiny to carry the " Trishy trunk" it's a man's job at this point believe me 🙄

You better be around for another two more years to lady bc I'm gonna need you! It's going to take me that long or possibly longer to get all the way off. I'm on the 5 yr plan I think 😔

Hope you have a great day, it's sunny here today, yay!

Love you much!

LST ❤️

Awe twiny noooo.My contract is up soon so the clock is ticking 🤔😕.Oh no doubt l will be here you and l have still my wedding to plan.l am not getting any younger so let's get this sorted.You enjoy your day my lovely.love you my lST X

Oh yes twin! I must get back to the making of the dress! I'll need to gather some supplies.  Aluminum foil for the veil and some yarn and Staples and safety pins🤔.. also I think a beautiful extra large gold sash you could wear that says" woop this bitch is getting married"!! I'm thinking huge, huge, HUGE puffy sleeves with a high Lacey neck line, now that definitely screams sexy 😃.. I think a big beautiful bouquet made out of empty benzo bottles, oh yes twin I have ideas..🤔 :2funny:

Mary, you work on what shoes she might wear and make sure Steve gets there on time.. We'll need a venue.. hmmmm.. Lots of work to do around here Mary :laugh: 💃👰😁

[[Ma...]]

Good morning LHSG hoping everyone has a better day.

Morning Troch l really hope you have less pain today.l think a walk definitely helps.Mary has given you good advice so perhaps you could consider her suggestions.l have no doubt you are having withdrawal symptoms which are causing the pain.Let us know how you are honey.love to you.X

Morning Trish l have been watching your back for around 2 years now and you are asking Espy for a security guard to carry your big ass 🤔😕.Are you saying l am not doing a good job 😡? Well l am happy to step back and l could maybe watch his back instead 😝.Rest honey you will get your mojo back.love you my lST X

Morning Lady Mary great advice to all.How are you? Have you used the enso yet? Please don't overdo the screen time and rest your peepers please.love you my lady Mary.X

Morning Suzy what does your therapist talk about?Can you change your therapist to someone who can do cbt?l don't really see her purpose from what you have said here.Have you asked her what she specialises in?let us know what you decide to do.love you.X

Good morning Olive has your cold lifted?Are you feeling much the same as usual?l hope you are feeling ok my love.love you.X

Morning Final it always hits and it always settles down given enough time.Hang in there honey.love you.X

Morning Janice l dare say we have one hell of a partay when l slide off this poison 🎉.l am still holding until hopefully this settles down a tad.l haven't put any target on this so it will happen when the time is right.Try to enjoy some of your day honey.love you.X

Oh twinny you know you're first and foremost with me 😁.. you are way too tiny to carry the " Trishy trunk" it's a man's job at this point believe me 🙄

You better be around for another two more years to lady bc I'm gonna need you! It's going to take me that long or possibly longer to get all the way off. I'm on the 5 yr plan I think 😔

Hope you have a great day, it's sunny here today, yay!

Love you much!

LST ❤️

Awe twiny noooo.My contract is up soon so the clock is ticking 🤔😕.Oh no doubt l will be here you and l have still my wedding to plan.l am not getting any younger so let's get this sorted.You enjoy your day my lovely.love you my lST X

Oh yes twin! I must get back to the making of the dress! I'll need to gather some supplies.  Aluminum foil for the veil and some yarn and Staples and safety pins🤔.. also I think a beautiful extra large gold sash you could wear that says" woop this bitch is getting married"!! I'm thinking huge, huge, HUGE puffy sleeves with a high Lacey neck line, now that definitely screams sexy 😃.. I think a big beautiful bouquet made out of empty benzo bottles, oh yes twin I have ideas..🤔 :2funny:

Mary, you work on what shoes she might wear and make sure Steve gets there on time.. We'll need a venue.. hmmmm.. Lots of work to do around here Mary :laugh: 💃👰😁

 

Photographers, cause I will need to look back on that sash for years  :2funny:

[[Tr...]]

Good morning LHSG hoping everyone has a better day.

Morning Troch l really hope you have less pain today.l think a walk definitely helps.Mary has given you good advice so perhaps you could consider her suggestions.l have no doubt you are having withdrawal symptoms which are causing the pain.Let us know how you are honey.love to you.X

Morning Trish l have been watching your back for around 2 years now and you are asking Espy for a security guard to carry your big ass 🤔😕.Are you saying l am not doing a good job 😡? Well l am happy to step back and l could maybe watch his back instead 😝.Rest honey you will get your mojo back.love you my lST X

Morning Lady Mary great advice to all.How are you? Have you used the enso yet? Please don't overdo the screen time and rest your peepers please.love you my lady Mary.X

Morning Suzy what does your therapist talk about?Can you change your therapist to someone who can do cbt?l don't really see her purpose from what you have said here.Have you asked her what she specialises in?let us know what you decide to do.love you.X

Good morning Olive has your cold lifted?Are you feeling much the same as usual?l hope you are feeling ok my love.love you.X

Morning Final it always hits and it always settles down given enough time.Hang in there honey.love you.X

Morning Janice l dare say we have one hell of a partay when l slide off this poison 🎉.l am still holding until hopefully this settles down a tad.l haven't put any target on this so it will happen when the time is right.Try to enjoy some of your day honey.love you.X

Oh twinny you know you're first and foremost with me 😁.. you are way too tiny to carry the " Trishy trunk" it's a man's job at this point believe me 🙄

You better be around for another two more years to lady bc I'm gonna need you! It's going to take me that long or possibly longer to get all the way off. I'm on the 5 yr plan I think 😔

Hope you have a great day, it's sunny here today, yay!

Love you much!

LST ❤️

Awe twiny noooo.My contract is up soon so the clock is ticking 🤔😕.Oh no doubt l will be here you and l have still my wedding to plan.l am not getting any younger so let's get this sorted.You enjoy your day my lovely.love you my lST X

Oh yes twin! I must get back to the making of the dress! I'll need to gather some supplies.  Aluminum foil for the veil and some yarn and Staples and safety pins🤔.. also I think a beautiful extra large gold sash you could wear that says" woop this bitch is getting married"!! I'm thinking huge, huge, HUGE puffy sleeves with a high Lacey neck line, now that definitely screams sexy 😃.. I think a big beautiful bouquet made out of empty benzo bottles, oh yes twin I have ideas..🤔 :2funny:

Mary, you work on what shoes she might wear and make sure Steve gets there on time.. We'll need a venue.. hmmmm.. Lots of work to do around here Mary :laugh: 💃👰😁

 

Photographers, cause I will need to look back on that sash for years  :2funny:

  Yup! Photographer is a must! It's going to get busy around here 🤔  :2funny:

[[va...]]

Hi Trish. The only thing that helps me with that fear is having a couple back up doctors and having a stash. The stash would give me time to reconnect with the other doctors or find a new one who'd allow a symptom based taper. Can you stash enough for that?

[[Tr...]]

Hi Trish. The only thing that helps me with that fear is having a couple back up doctors and having a stash. The stash would give me time to reconnect with the other doctors or find a new one who'd allow a symptom based taper. Can you stash enough for that?

Yeah I have about 3 months worth of pills stashed, accept about 30 of those pills are very old and I'm not sure how potent they are anymore. But not a day goes by that I don't fight that fear. I face it down everyday and then manage to get on with it but it's a thought everyday..

[[Tr...]]

Hi Trish. The only thing that helps me with that fear is having a couple back up doctors and having a stash. The stash would give me time to reconnect with the other doctors or find a new one who'd allow a symptom based taper. Can you stash enough for that?

Yeah I have about 3 months worth of pills stashed, accept about 30 of those pills are very old and I'm not sure how potent they are anymore. But not a day goes by that I don't fight that fear. I face it down everyday and then manage to get on with it but it's a thought everyday..

Sorry not 30 meant to say one months worth are very old pills.

[[Mi...]]

Good morning

I have a question has anyone done a long hold here even if u dose and the medication makes u not feel good?

Example

Sometimes after I dose not always I don’t feel good sxs seems to pop up again it’s not always but it does happen should u still hold when do u know to hold?

TIA

[[Ma...]]

Mia, you hold when your symptoms are bad and have gotten out of control.  If the symptoms are still something you can deal with, you continue tapering.  Taper a low dose and take your time, that way there is a good chance you may get through withdrawal without needing to hold.

 

Hope that helps.  Having some rough or new symptoms while you hold is very common.

Mary 💜

[[ju...]]

Hi Mary again

I am experiencing the worst anx. of this process. With the intention of soothing little, i searched a lot and ordered a CBD oil. This evening i started to take it with microdosing. But looking at the comments written on internet, it is said that it may interact Gaba receptors and things may even worse. Also looking on the lots of people who didnt start CBD in spite of intense suffering, am i the only smart! person who think it as a solution? It also could be possible to reach tolerance. I am confused, suffering the worst of this process. Now i am on the side of not using it. Please tell me it will pass with waiting.

[[Ma...]]

Hi Mary again

I am experiencing the worst anx. of this process. With the intention of soothing little, i searched a lot and ordered a CBD oil. This evening i started to take it with microdosing. But looking at the comments written on internet, it is said that it may interact Gaba receptors and things may even worse. Also looking on the lots of people who didnt start CBD in spite of intense suffering, am i the only smart! person who think it as a solution? It also could be possible to reach tolerance. I am confused, suffering the worst of this process. Now i am on the side of not using it. Please tell me it will pass with waiting.

 

June, cbd oil helps a lot of people on here, but as in all things benzo, doesn't help others.  If it is helping you, use it.  I would be using it now, but it didn't help me.  . I hope it gives you some relief.

Finding things that help is pretty hard, so if you have, be grateful.  LY, Mary 💜💜

[[Mo...]]

Hey Janice,

I am still with you when it comes to fear of not having my Xanax. I fight that fear everyday. I do the what ifs all the time. What if my Dr retires or what if he changes his mind about maintaining me, he thinks he is just maintaing me, and says you have to get off this drug and you can do it by... Fill in the blank. My worst nightmare is that he'll pull what my last Dr did and give me a time frame to get off the drug, one I can't possibly do of course without killing myself in the process.. it's a hard thing to live with. Being physically dependant on this drug and not having any control over that makes me crazy, however I fight those thoughts everyday and try not to stay in that space for to long. I do find having a back up plan at least in my mind helps.

TT,4 ever trying 🙄

 

I have the exact same fear. I hate being tied to this drug and worry about someone else takes over my care. On the other hand there are docs who would keep you on this for the rest of your life. 

[[De...]]

Omg i have to catch up.

 

Mm,

Thank you. In this state i am so unsure of myself. My confidence is shot.  You made me feel alot better.  I dont know why we dont work on anxiety.  I tell her. When i say i ferl like im going to die. Sorry. It is scary with these sx. She says what is the likelyhoos of that. To me it seems likely. Im sure i wont but sometimes this crap is scaey. She minimizes ir all. I am sad you dont like the enso. Maybe if you use it more it will help. After all this waiting. Well yoy can always send it back. But maybe give it a chance. Love dd

[[De...]]

Thanks Vali,

She is really nice and some things she has helped with. I feel bad. It os more of a negative experience. With my anxiety when ppl start saying it coyld be this or that then i get more anxious. Yoy are strong too. Everyone is here.  We have been to hell and not come back yet and we persevere! I hope yoy are ferling betyet about holding. I really think its ok. It has bewn almost 4 mos for me and i realize alot has improved even with the generic and thyroid setback. Or maybe the thyroid med helped. Who knows. Love you dd

[[va...]]

Trishy :

 

Builder posted once that Valium lasts for many many years without losing its effectiveness. I copied that post on my plog. Maybe you can ask builder if klonopin is the same. My mind is at ease in that aspect with a ten month stash. I'm almost embarrassed to say that. I still obsess about being put into hospital and my father coming and throwing away all my pills. The lovely life long effects of child abuse. The gift that keeps on giving.

[[De...]]

Thanks tt,

You guys are so kind and always know what to say.  I ferl so.much better. It is def the drugs. I think back.to before this hapoened and i was way more qnxioys on the drugs.  I was always anxious but not like on these drugsm At first yoy get the telaxed feeling and then you take them and feel nothing. I definayely think you should. If you are feeling pots sx. Let them settle. The good thing is now you know they will so you xan catch it before it gets to the point it was. I hate the drug anxiety a matter of fact i need to make sure mine wete called in. I an always afraid she might turn evil and cut me of foe arguing with her. I dont think that will happen to us. I think ot is good to have a back up. Love yoy dd

 

 

 

[[De...]]

Mm,

I am so glad you ate having like mini windows. You seem much happier and i.think holding for a while will really make a difference. No rush. We dont need any jolts to the nervous sx for a while. Ugh😂

[[Ma...]]

Omg i have to catch up.

 

Mm,

Thank you. In this state i am so unsure of myself. My confidence is shot.  You made me feel alot better.  I dont know why we dont work on anxiety.  I tell her. When i say i ferl like im going to die. Sorry. It is scary with these sx. She says what is the likelyhoos of that. To me it seems likely. Im sure i wont but sometimes this crap is scaey. She minimizes ir all. I am sad you dont like the enso. Maybe if you use it more it will help. After all this waiting. Well yoy can always send it back. But maybe give it a chance. Love dd

 

I am probably going to keep.  I think it will allow me to get out and about for longer periods.  But at home, my heating pad just seems to be the best.  Don't you be sad girlfriend.  If I can do a few things, like get highlights and have my brother in law visit without dying, it will be worth the money. I have to take Tim for colonoscopy end of the month, things like that, will be a lot of help to me.  So don't you give it another thought.  Well, we all hope you change therapists or at least tell other Dr.  You need help with anxiety and would like the therapist to help with that.  But no matter, we are here and you can talk to us.  You are the best!!  LY, MM. 💜💜💜💜

[[De...]]

Mm&

I think it is cumulative. You were it for a while and the pain gwts less and less. Not perfect but less. I will have to see were i saw that. I am glad you will get to see your bil. Yay. If it helps you get out and gets rid of pain cumulativily that would be so awesome. Getying out and about will be so good for you. Ly dd

[[Ma...]]

Mm&

I think it is cumulative. You were it for a while and the pain gwts less and less. Not perfect but less. I will have to see were i saw that. I am glad you will get to see your bil. Yay. If it helps you get out and gets rid of pain cumulativily that would be so awesome. Getying out and about will be so good for you. Ly dd

 

The book you get with it says the best way to use is an hour at a time, 4 times a day.  It says it's best to take it off each time.  That thing really sticks too, lol.  But I will give it more of a try.  Does your mom wear it anyway other than middle of back, like side ?

[[De...]]

Eow shwme wrars hers alot. Maybe she isnt supposed to.  I am pretty sure she just wears it on her back. I bet you could were it other places. Wonder if it says on the website. I yyink thete is an enso app too. I bet it gives all kins of info. I will ask her. She is in Florida know i think. Will ask when she gets back.

[[De...]]

https://ensorelief.com/product

This says yoy can use it on 10 different areas of the body. There is a personaluzed coach. It might be on the enso app. Toy can downwload it for free. Just google enso relied app.

[[Ma...]]

Eow shwme wrars hers alot. Maybe she isnt supposed to.  I am pretty sure she just wears it on her back. I bet you could were it other places. Wonder if it says on the website. I yyink thete is an enso app too. I bet it gives all kins of info. I will ask her. She is in Florida know i think. Will ask when she gets back.

 

I have it on right now, lol.  I did too many knee lifts, that's what I do if I feel good though, I always do too much.  Tim is fussing at me  :laugh: 

[[Ma...]]

https://ensorelief.com/product

This says yoy can use it on 10 different areas of the body. There is a personaluzed coach. It might be on the enso app. Toy can downwload it for free. Just google enso relied app.

 

I knew what I read somewhere was different than what this book is saying.  Good, now I feel better about it.  Thanks for bringing that to my attention again.  I have the app downloaded.  Gonna give it a better try now.  LY, MM. 💜💜

[[De...]]

Ahaaa mm you've so cute! I always ov erdo it too. I was using a resistance band for my workout. Ouch. Now I hurt to. Glad you are feeling better! I think you can put it everywhere. Probably a proper placement to target certain muscles. Tim is fussing..lol