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I’ve been off benzos for 13 months and yet every once in a while my heart rate goes up and stays up causing me to feel kind of awful and tired. It all seems to go away on its own only to come back again a month or so later.

 

Has anyone else experienced this?

Posted
I've had this, but it was during/following a panic attack. I'm assuming you are talking about something different?
Posted
I’m 8 months off. Most of my symptoms are resolving. Still having heart stuff. Chest pains, palps. My resting heart rate is 50 or lower some days and is 90 on other days. No more racing like in a acute though. One time during my taper my heart rate went to 120(resting) and stayed there without a break for 3 straight days! It was nuts!
Posted

I've had this, but it was during/following a panic attack. I'm assuming you are talking about something different?

Yeah I guess it is different because I don’t have a panic attack.  Just doing my normal daily duties but this afternoon my heart rates been up and stayed up all evening.  Even reclining in a chair watching TV I’m hitting 90 bpm .

Posted

I’m 8 months off. Most of my symptoms are resolving. Still having heart stuff. Chest pains, palps. My resting heart rate is 50 or lower some days and is 90 on other days. No more racing like in a acute though. One time during my taper my heart rate went to 120(resting) and stayed there without a break for 3 straight days! It was nuts!

 

Wow, that's actually scary. I don't think mine has stayed high for longer than a day or so...

Posted

I've had this, but it was during/following a panic attack. I'm assuming you are talking about something different?

Yeah I guess it is different because I don’t have a panic attack.  Just doing my normal daily duties but this afternoon my heart rates been up and stayed up all evening.  Even reclining in a chair watching TV I’m hitting 90 bpm .

 

Wow, that's crazy. Or I guess I should say it doesn't surprise me much!

Posted

Mine does the same thing. It was worse earlier in withdrawal, but now it only happens about once or twice every 3 months or so.

 

PG

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Mine does the same thing. It was worse earlier in withdrawal, but now it only happens about once or twice every 3 months or so.

 

PG

Thank you preachergirl and everybody for chiming in. I guess it’s sort of comforting to know that this is common but I do feel bad for all of us.

Posted

I've had this, but it was during/following a panic attack. I'm assuming you are talking about something different?

Yeah I guess it is different because I don’t have a panic attack.  Just doing my normal daily duties but this afternoon my heart rates been up and stayed up all evening.  Even reclining in a chair watching TV I’m hitting 90 bpm .

 

Wow, that's crazy. Or I guess I should say it doesn't surprise me much!

 

That’s a good one think!

 

Sofa

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oh yes, I have experienced this. After I jumped my pulse was over 100 at resting for almost a week then it slowly calmed down. It’s the thing that freaked me out the most while at work. I would just be sitting there and check my pulse on my smart watch to see it in the 90s. Always accompanied anxiety, panic or adrenaline surges that come for no apparent reason that I know of. But now I’m back to 80bpm during the day and between 67-70 at sleeping.
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It’s probably some dysautonomia. Nerves from your sympathetic nervous system control your heart rate and a host of other biological processes. I believe it’s similar to the involuntary contractions of my postural muscles that happen, just an f’d up fight or flight. It should resolve with everything else. If you get dizzy/lightheaded, short of breath, or chest pain with it go to emergency room.
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It’s probably some dysautonomia. Nerves from your sympathetic nervous system control your heart rate and a host of other biological processes. I believe it’s similar to the involuntary contractions of my postural muscles that happen, just an f’d up fight or flight. It should resolve with everything else. If you get dizzy/lightheaded, short of breath, or chest pain with it go to emergency room.

You and I were both long-term benzo users and stop the same month last year after a taper.  Here we are at 13 months later.  I can say I am much better but  there’s a lot more room for improvement.

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I’m the same, much better but much room for improvement!  I’d ballpark 60-70% better probably. It’s hard to say what 100% is though, it’s been so long. Hang in there, we’ll get there.
Posted
I see you take magnesium too, it’s been a life saver for me.
Posted

I see you take magnesium too, it’s been a life saver for me.

 

I was taking magnesium glycinate. How do you think it is helping you? What variety/brand/dosage do you take?

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I’d like to know how the magnesium is helping you too. My doctor suggested I try a magnesium supplement for all over stiff muscle pain and fatigue but I’m hesitant.
Posted

I’d like to know how the magnesium is helping you too. My doctor suggested I try a magnesium supplement for all over stiff muscle pain and fatigue but I’m hesitant.

I think it helps me sleep at night and reduces anxiety and it helps by making the muscle not tense all the time, therefore reducing muscle pain.

Posted

I’d like to know how the magnesium is helping you too. My doctor suggested I try a magnesium supplement for all over stiff muscle pain and fatigue but I’m hesitant.

I think it helps me sleep at night and reduces anxiety and it helps by making the muscle not tense all the time, therefore reducing muscle pain.

 

You really think so? I tried it for a while and didn't notice much. However, there were a lot of chemical changes going on in my brain, so it is really hard to say!

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I take magnesium malate, the malic acid is supposed to be beneficial for muscles as much as the magnesium. It’s been studied in fibromyalgia.
Posted

I see in your signature, Bob, that you are taking three PAMs.  Aspirin, an NSAID , chamomile tea and L-theanine.  These are all natural forms

of benzos.  I suggest you stop taking these as, yes, they do give you some short term relief, but so would chipping of a chunk of your benzo

and then come the short term withdrawal symptoms.  One should avoid all PAMs and NAMs for a very long period after withdrawing or in tapering.

 

If you want to try something to stabilize your heart BP and rate, try Hawthorne tea.  You can look that up for heart health.

 

Good luck,

 

Klonkar

Posted

I see in your signature, Bob, that you are taking three PAMs.  Aspirin, an NSAID , chamomile tea and L-theanine.  These are all natural forms

of benzos.  I suggest you stop taking these as, yes, they do give you some short term relief, but so would chipping of a chunk of your benzo

and then come the short term withdrawal symptoms.  One should avoid all PAMs and NAMs for a very long period after withdrawing or in tapering.

 

If you want to try something to stabilize your heart BP and rate, try Hawthorne tea.  You can look that up for heart health.

 

Good luck,

 

Klonkar

I am so disappointed to hear all those things act like benzos. I’ve done research and other people seem to dispute it but then again I also hear other say you what you just said that they do affect like benzo‘s. It is very confusing. But perhaps you are right and I should stay or try to stay away from them. I appreciate your comment and also the advice on Hawthorne tea -  I shall investigate.

Posted

These are all natural forms

of benzos. 

 

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

Posted

Yes, I'd be glad to support my claim.  Benzos are Positive allosteric modulators of the GABA-a neuroreceptor.  So is alcohol, nicotine,

menthol, the phytochemicals like chrysin in chamomile tea, lavender oil, oregano oil and the list goes on. 

 

Here are two links, one with a comprehensive list of PAM's that I refer to often.  Sometimes the exact ingredient is not listed but a component

of that ingredient like the chrysin in chamomile is a powerful chemical that binds to the GABA receptor just like benzos. The first link tells why this

tea affects GABA and why it has been used historically as a sedative and more. 

 

http://www.progressivehealth.com/drinking-chamomile-tea-may-help-anxiety-and-insomn.htm

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GABAA_receptor_positive_allosteric_modulator

 

At the bottom of the Wikipedia link there are two blue lines in the article.  The second line says "Gaba A receptor positive modulators" and is

a very comprehensive list of all things that may impair healing. They do potentiate the same response that benzos do.  A great reason why

some of these natural medicines have been for thousands of years.  If you click on a drug in the list the chemical structure and use for it will

pop up.

 

I hope these articles will help in understanding more things "benzo".

 

Klonkar

Posted

Yes, I'd be glad to support my claim.  Benzos are Positive allosteric modulators of the GABA-a neuroreceptor.  So is alcohol, nicotine,

menthol, the phytochemicals like chrysin in chamomile tea, lavender oil, oregano oil and the list goes on. 

 

Here are two links, one with a comprehensive list of PAM's that I refer to often.  Sometimes the exact ingredient is not listed but a component

of that ingredient like the chrysin in chamomile is a powerful chemical that binds to the GABA receptor just like benzos. The first link tells why this

tea affects GABA and why it has been used historically as a sedative and more. 

 

http://www.progressivehealth.com/drinking-chamomile-tea-may-help-anxiety-and-insomn.htm

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GABAA_receptor_positive_allosteric_modulator

 

At the bottom of the Wikipedia link there are two blue lines in the article.  The second line says "Gaba A receptor positive modulators" and is

a very comprehensive list of all things that may impair healing. They do potentiate the same response that benzos do.  A great reason why

some of these natural medicines have been for thousands of years.  If you click on a drug in the list the chemical structure and use for it will

pop up.

 

I hope these articles will help in understanding more things "benzo".

 

Klonkar

 

Are you saying that pain relievers like Advil and Tylenol are like Benzos? And are you saying that topically using lavender oil is also? I am using all these lately. I just took Advil for my back pain.

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