Exercise setback anyone ?

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Hello

 

I’m just over two months off from taper still having nausea, sleep issues, thick spaced out head , fatigue and some anxiety and low mood , I thought I’d push myself and started a little jogging nothing major but I did it for three days , yesterday was a real struggle I was red like a tomato and light headed afterwards, today I feel like I’m back in bad acute , totally wiped out dizzy full head body is very weak , nauseous, feeling like I haven’t slept for a week feel like flu .

 

I thought I would be helping myself with the anxiety and low mood that’s why I tried the exercise was I stupid to try at 2 months ? Is this because of the exercise or just part of this shit journey? I can’t describe how unwell I feel today I even had a nightmare last night.

 

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated

 

PO

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I'm exactly like this after any form of exercise and I'm 17 months off, if i don't exercise I'm relatively ok in between waves. It sucks as i was very fit before this mess,  but it is what it is, hope this gets better for you soon.

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Hi

 

Thanks for the reply , I was only trying to help myself thought it would be a good idea. My husband said I need to start to try and get fit again so I pushed myself, seems like a mistake.

 

I literally feel awful so ill like I’m having a bad flu.

 

I hope things pick up for you.

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Hello

 

I’m just over two months off from taper still having nausea, sleep issues, thick spaced out head , fatigue and some anxiety and low mood , I thought I’d push myself and started a little jogging nothing major but I did it for three days , yesterday was a real struggle I was red like a tomato and light headed afterwards, today I feel like I’m back in bad acute , totally wiped out dizzy full head body is very weak , nauseous, feeling like I haven’t slept for a week feel like flu .

 

I thought I would be helping myself with the anxiety and low mood that’s why I tried the exercise was I stupid to try at 2 months ? Is this because of the exercise or just part of this shit journey? I can’t describe how unwell I feel today I even had a nightmare last night.

 

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated

 

PO

Honestly i couldn't workout till i was over a year out. Just do walking and yoga. Maybe very light weights. Excercise taxes your nervous system and our nervous systems are very sensitive once getting off the benzos . My 2 cents . I still cant workout hard or anything like i used to

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I think, the time in the recovery is crucial. During my first two years, it just meant setbacks. But now it seems to work, but only one step at a time.

Maybe, it's too much in the first time? I think the body needs to rest. 

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Mmmmmm never thought about yoga , I’ll get my mat from the attic and see if I’m up for that in the next few days.

 

It’s very discouraging because I just want to do what I can to help myself. I wonder why it’s completely knocked me flat I was hardly running a marathon!

 

I can’t even see straight today!

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Hello

 

I’m just over two months off from taper still having nausea, sleep issues, thick spaced out head , fatigue and some anxiety and low mood , I thought I’d push myself and started a little jogging nothing major but I did it for three days , yesterday was a real struggle I was red like a tomato and light headed afterwards, today I feel like I’m back in bad acute , totally wiped out dizzy full head body is very weak , nauseous, feeling like I haven’t slept for a week feel like flu .

 

I thought I would be helping myself with the anxiety and low mood that’s why I tried the exercise was I stupid to try at 2 months ? Is this because of the exercise or just part of this shit journey? I can’t describe how unwell I feel today I even had a nightmare last night.

 

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated

 

PO

 

It could just be that u pushed urself a bit too hard. I didn’t start exercising vigorously until month 4/5. Even then, it was difficult in the beginning. It gave me extreme nerve pain, inner electrical vibrations, muscle rigidity & stiffness, DP/DR, & some other annoying symptoms. But I continued to do it anyways around the 1 month mark of running consistently 4-6 days a week a started to see some significant changes. I was in a better mood, improved sleep patterns, increased appetite, & I began to feel very clear headed after I would get done. I just entered month 9 from a CT of 4 mg of xanax & I am feeling the best I have in year’s. Running has now become a regular part of my routine & I’m back up to 4-7 miles a day all in under 60 min. I’ve seen a lot of the symptoms I’ve dealt with disappear & I’m living a completely normal life honestly feeling 99% for several weeks now. I wouldn’t say toss the idea of exercise out, just b careful on how hard u push urself. And although it may cause ur symptoms to intensify or get worse, I don’t believe that it causes a setback or hinders the actual recovery process. I actually read an article on sciencedaily that proved exercise not only increases levels of GABA & glutamate but also increases their production rate as well. So I truly believe exercising is one of the only things that can actually speed this recovery process up. I hope things level out for u & u continue to do what works for u, take care, & all the best in healing.

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Wow sounds like your doing great that’s so encouraging, thank you for your reply and information I have rested today as I’m a mess but want to get back out tomorrow, maybe not jogging yet but a good long walk or a couple of shorter ones , I can’t just sit around and wait it’s bringing my mood down so much and I can feel my anxiety increasing so I want to do as much as I can to help with that.

 

Soooooooo good to hear you have your life back!

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Wow sounds like your doing great that’s so encouraging, thank you for your reply and information I have rested today as I’m a mess but want to get back out tomorrow, maybe not jogging yet but a good long walk or a couple of shorter ones , I can’t just sit around and wait it’s bringing my mood down so much and I can feel my anxiety increasing so I want to do as much as I can to help with that.

 

Soooooooo good to hear you have your life back!

 

Thank you! And the crazy part of it is I never thought I would b feeling this good this quickly. Things didn’t really start to turn around for me until I started exercising consistently. I have seen more healing happen in the 4 months I’ve spent exercising (specifically cardio) than I ever did in the 5 month’s I haven’t. I figured I was already feeling about as bad as I possibly could so why not give it a go? I’ll admit, it was rough, actually brutal at first. But now? Now it’s a necessity. I actually get more energy from exercising than fatigue. Not only that but I also rarely even feel sore. There was a slow transition period that I’d say has taken about 3 months. But it’s given me my life back. I feel more like my old self more so than ever now. And not just my old self but a better & stronger version. The article I read said that heavy exercise is the most challenging activity the brain can encounter. Even more than playing chess or doing calculus. If you’d like a link to the article u can check out the post I put the link in, it’s titled “speeding up the recovery process”. Thank you again for your kind words I greatly appreciate it. It sounds like you have the right attitude going into this & I honestly believe that that makes all the difference. Take care of urself & best of luck to u during this journey! All the best

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I did a search but couldn’t find it, I’d love to read it so how can I find up please.

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I did a search but couldn’t find it, I’d love to read it so how can I find up please.

 

Here u go, sorry the title of my post was just “Speeding up recovery” here’s the link:

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160225101241.htm

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Thank you!

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We will get into quite the debate on this as I have posted about my own exercise induced setback at 4 months but am now slowly building up at 12 months... I wish I had listened to others warning me but I tried to push through and it was not worth it at all. Linnie may jump in here and tel you about hers too. Then we will hear how Seltz used exercise for recovery. I think we just need to rely on our own body like an experimentation lab (free) and discover what works best for us.  I did a 5 K yesterday in a walk/run manner and it did not set me back so I am grateful for my progress. But that doesn’t mean I am going to jump back into competitive tennis this year. I am healing for the long game.

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I know running has helped speed up the healing for me big time !

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We will get into quite the debate on this as I have posted about my own exercise induced setback at 4 months but am now slowly building up at 12 months... I wish I had listened to others warning me but I tried to push through and it was not worth it at all. Linnie may jump in here and tel you about hers too. Then we will hear how Seltz used exercise for recovery. I think we just need to rely on our own body like an experimentation lab (free) and discover what works best for us.  I did a 5 K yesterday in a walk/run manner and it did not set me back so I am grateful for my progress. But that doesn’t mean I am going to jump back into competitive tennis this year. I am healing for the long game.

 

I guess there r too many variables that come into play when it comes to what each individual is capable of enduring. But based on my own experience, I have come to the conclusion in regards to overall health? It does far more good than bad. There’s no way someone could convince me that not doing some sort of exercise daily is better for your body than doing it. I also first started in month 4/5 & it was incredibly brutal on my system. I had a whole array of symptoms that intensified from any sort of strenuous physical activity but I didn’t let that stop me. It took a good month & a half to possibly 2 month’s before my system was really able to adjust. But once it did? I saw a huge turn around in my symptom’s frequency & intensity & it has steadily continued to only get better. I know for a fact that in the 4 month’s I have made a daily effort to exercise, I have seen more healing happen than in the 5 month’s that I didn’t. Yes it is going to be extremely difficult. Yes it is going to suck & probably feel like one of the hardest things you’ve ever done in your entire life. But can it do actual irreversible damage to your overall heath? No, not at all. It’s going to lower your blood pressure, boost your oxygen intake, & promote your system to work exactly the way it was designed to. But this doesn’t happen overnight, it’s a process just like recovery. And it may happen much easier for others based on things like age, weight, medical history, & genetics. But with that being said, there’s no way that someone who isn’t active or exercise is healthier than someone who does on a regular basis. I just can’t see that being possible.

 

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read/listen to the book spark. I feel the same way when I exercise. could it have something to do with sensory overload of being out?

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Thank you for all of your posts , maybe at 2 months off the diazepam it was just to soon to start jogging? I just wanted to try but it has set me off into a bad wave a think , it’s hard to know but I think maybe just stick to fast paced walking on days I can get out? You get so frightened that your going to set yourself up for a setback it’s a crazy way to think and live! I’m struggling with various w/d stuff atm like lots of people but some things have improved which is why I thought I’d try and up my exercise, it’s bloody frustrating just waiting to feel a bit better and try and get on with living ! I’m struggling with a bit of agoraphobia too so getting out is extremely important because if I stay in to much I can’t face going out.......vicious circle agh!

 

Exercise helped me through anxiety and depression during tolerance but then all the other shit started and then the taper and up to now has been a rocky road, so I know that exercise will help me maybe just not yet 

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Dont avoid reasonable exercise, but more any sudden or big chemistry changes within the process... This will vary depending on where one is at, and level of sensitivity, but yes I beleive that exessive exercise at the wrong time, for the wrong person can contribute to significant problems..

 

I remember posting my "what the hell..??!!" Post after escaping "bed" and doing too much.. -"cortisol rush" was put forwards.. -Yeah Right..!!

But then later, I remember using exessive exercise to guage if I was ready for a pill split size cut..

-a handy tool..

So just a bit of a "time and a place" thing, Imo, -esp if one wants to push on in the face of an already stressed CNS..

One who suffers say fatigue, may respond differently to one who struggles with strong anxiety.. -etc..

One tapering, different to one recently, -or even long term jumped..

Like most things benzo, it can be hard to understand aspects that havnt reached out and given us that special "slap"...  -So I just wanted to drop a caution out here, more for when people are particularly sensitive at a given point, or for a particular reason..

 

Not to detract from the many advantages of sensible, regular exercise.. and sure as hell dont underestimate what the body IS capable of doing...!! -But thats the tip of the next discussion iceburg...

 

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Hi Cantfly

 

Thank you for your post, I will be taking things a bit slower depending on how my body/brain reacts to exercise, I have just dusted the cobwebs off my bike and went for a short ride, very short only about 1 mile but it’s a start!

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First week of CT I did my typical weightlifting routine which was very very stupid. Threw me into a massive panic attack while driving home  and I nearly crashed my car. Should have reinstated then and there.

 

Now a year out and any sort of exercise induces insomnia and brain pains and later manifests into nerve pain days later.

 

I was an athlete my entire life and CTing nearly two weeks of use has ruined my body.

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Hi Cantfly

 

Thank you for your post, I will be taking things a bit slower depending on how my body/brain reacts to exercise, I have just dusted the cobwebs off my bike and went for a short ride, very short only about 1 mile but it’s a start!

I can read in your words that your happy about the idea..

And I think thats a point.. -a healthy interest in something is a good guide in itself..

Its when people start to "boot camp" it, or say in my case, get carried away beyond sensible limits doing fun stuff, thats when we can get the warnings..

 

You just make sure the brakes work, and you will be fine..!!

Enjoy...

 

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Too soon. When you do get back to it, start very slowly so as not to shock you're system, VERY slowly. Like really stupid slow. You'll be fine. But for now, rest. Two months ago is like yesterday, but I commend you on your spirit! One mile on the bike may be too far. If you took a week to build up to a mile, would it be so terrible. Start with going around the block, then two, why not? It's not a race

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He he may brakes work luckily 

 

I’ll take it slowly and not over do it, a mile isn’t that much but I could feel it! It is just good to try and because I didn’t have nausea today for once (been slammed with nausea for soooooo long, I’m sure it’ll be back tomorrow !) I thought yep get out on your bike while you can.

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That happened to me, too. Just want to help myself and improve my mood. I only went for almost three miles and walked some, ran some. I felt shaky and had a hard time maintaining my body temperature when I got back but was okay. Then by the end of the day I got a massive headache and felt sick. So I'm scared to try again. But I really, really want to. Let me know how you're doing and what progress you  make.

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Hello Warrior

 

I felt ok after my bike ride but I didn’t push it to much not like the three days trying jogging. Take your time , maybe walk at a fast pace instead of running to start with, a good walk is so good for you and your mental health but push things to much and you’ll set yourself up for s fall like me. I am going to stick to walks and a short bike ride on the dats I can get out, some dats I’m to sick which is frustrating but it’s early days and things will get better.