ct healing versus micro tapering

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ive been reading ALL am on success stories. seems to be that people who ct or rapid taper dont heal or they quit posting or still suffering Years out. people who have micro tapered do well. this is very misleading as we are told "we all Heal" im pissed. At a year off I still cant take my 3 yr old to an Easter egg hunt yesterday without being completely overstimulated and spent the rest of the day in bed. im getting worse much much much worse at a year off. im in constant disconnect, dp/dr, anxious, cant function. we all heal huh??? not what im seeing. I cant live this way much longer.

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I'm so you are still suffering so much. It really sucks. What else can I say? Nothing fun, it really does take years (average 2-3) just for the Gaba receptors to heal and I think we underestimate the psychological and other physical damage of this poison.

 

I too was on benzos years ago and CT no problem. Then off and and a few years and experiencing wd I didn't understand. And this time around, it's extremely to get off.

 

Anyways, I hear you. I understand the frustration.

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Everyone is individual. I’m almost 8 month’s out from a CT of 4 mg of xanax with several year’s of severely kindling while also taking opioids, & 5 month’s out from a rescue dose & have seen a complete 180. I have no doubt that I’ll b 100% healed before the end of the year. I’m basically 80-85% every day, & some days even up to 90%. I’ve actually had a couple days in the last month where I was completely sx free & back to how I felt before ever taking benzo’s. I work, exercise, & eat or drink whatever I like (besides alcohol, giving that up until I’ve had more than 6-12 month’s sx free if I even decide to drink again). Even the intensity of the waves I get now isn’t strong enough to stop me from doing whatever I am. There’s tons of variables u have to take into consideration. This process is totally different for ea person. What might work for some may not for other’s. The percentage of individuals that r successfully healed from a micro taper could b higher than those that CT but this medication affects everyone so differently there’s really no way to say for sure. Taking this medication was causing more sx than relieving in my case so I feel that a taper or micro taper would have done more harm than good. The only reason I haven’t written a success story yet is bc I want to give it more time. I know that everything is going away, it’s just slow. But I no longer deal with any of the crazy mental sx that I did while in acute or in tolerance wd. This site is good for informational purposes & to get a better understanding of what ur experiencing, but to try & break this down to an exact science is impossible IMO. Sorry ur struggling so much, hope that u can find relief in the near future & that this can give u some sort of indication that healing IS happening. Definitely not as quickly as we would all like or at the pace we all prefer, but it is taking place. All the best in healing

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ive been reading ALL am on success stories. seems to be that people who ct or rapid taper dont heal or they quit posting or still suffering Years out. people who have micro tapered do well. this is very misleading as we are told "we all Heal" im pissed. At a year off I still cant take my 3 yr old to an Easter egg hunt yesterday without being completely overstimulated and spent the rest of the day in bed. im getting worse much much much worse at a year off. im in constant disconnect, dp/dr, anxious, cant function. we all heal huh??? not what im seeing. I cant live this way much longer.

 

I’m not trying to be rude, but I’m going to help you fact check some things.  Even people who post here don’t represent 100% of people who get off their benzo. Pretty sure people who post here for the most part are “worse cases” apart from those who get off benzos with little problems. 

 

It’s not misleading that people heal from benzo use. A bigger problem in all of this benzo/psych drug use and discontinuation is the WHY people began taking the drugs. I see so many cases where people started meds for anxiety issues, depression, etc. I’m of the opinion based on my own research and my own experience that if we don’t work to deal with our anxieties etc. we won’t magically “heal” because—we had a pill to do the proverbial work for us before. Stopping these drugs leaves our brains in a chemically altered state for a while.

 

I don’t know your history, but consider why you began taking whichever drug you took. Consider what life circumstances are contributing right now. Understand that while these drugs have a similar effect across the board, individuals are vastly different in how we process life and its difficulties. I’ve personally had to do a lot of cognitive behavioral therapy and expose myself to things that cause anxiety and panic. It’s a LOT of work and it’s SCARY sometimes. While this board is a wealth of information and support, it’s also fraught with very extreme cases, people who have difficulties we cannot imagine, so comparing does no good. In fact, it hurts. Fear of withdrawal and what will happen after we’re done is the biggest determining factor in my opinion. Try your best not to be consumed by the board, live your life as best possible and let yourself heal on your own timeline. I wish you the best. 💕

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ive been reading ALL am on success stories. seems to be that people who ct or rapid taper dont heal or they quit posting or still suffering Years out. people who have micro tapered do well. this is very misleading as we are told "we all Heal" im pissed. At a year off I still cant take my 3 yr old to an Easter egg hunt yesterday without being completely overstimulated and spent the rest of the day in bed. im getting worse much much much worse at a year off. im in constant disconnect, dp/dr, anxious, cant function. we all heal huh??? not what im seeing. I cant live this way much longer.

 

I’m not trying to be rude, but I’m going to help you fact check some things.  Even people who post here don’t represent 100% of people who get off their benzo. Pretty sure people who post here for the most part are “worse cases” apart from those who get off benzos with little problems. 

 

It’s not misleading that people heal from benzo use. A bigger problem in all of this benzo/psych drug use and discontinuation is the WHY people began taking the drugs. I see so many cases where people started meds for anxiety issues, depression, etc. I’m of the opinion based on my own research and my own experience that if we don’t work to deal with our anxieties etc. we won’t magically “heal” because—we had a pill to do the proverbial work for us before. Stopping these drugs leaves our brains in a chemically altered state for a while.

 

I don’t know your history, but consider why you began taking whichever drug you took. Consider what life circumstances are contributing right now. Understand that while these drugs have a similar effect across the board, individuals are vastly different in how we process life and its difficulties. I’ve personally had to do a lot of cognitive behavioral therapy and expose myself to things that cause anxiety and panic. It’s a LOT of work and it’s SCARY sometimes. While this board is a wealth of information and support, it’s also fraught with very extreme cases, people who have difficulties we cannot imagine, so comparing does no good. In fact, it hurts. Fear of withdrawal and what will happen after we’re done is the biggest determining factor in my opinion. Try your best not to be consumed by the board, live your life as best possible and let yourself heal on your own timeline. I wish you the best. 💕

 

This is a pretty good post, I agree. While I don’t believe in so much of what’s going on in psychiatry in terms of all the labels on people and generally irresponsible, inadequate help, misinformation and wrong ideas of the mental health field I still feel what’s said here is important.

 

And not that you would agree with any of those things either, NM, not at all.

 

I also feel it is so important to look at underlying issues and why we are on in the first place—not that it’s all always down to something wrong in us. It could be trauma (as we well know) that was not related to anything we could have, in our own lives, prevented from happening. It could be something societal that is wrong that we were not able to deal with or have enough protection from and support with. There are tools, and answers to get to root issues and take healing into our own hands. I am in 100% agreement.

 

I am trying to work though all of these things and see some others on here digging deep to find the strength to face it all, including yourself NM 🌿❤️

 

I feel you are so right, too, in that most people do heal quickly and don’t even have a need for these boards. The truth is there is a lot to all of this, but it shouldn’t have to be worst-case scenario in terms of the ability to recover for most people it seems.

 

The danger, as we know, is having the complex problems surrounding the entire issue and all the depressing stuff about how this is happening that a medication is prescribed past it’s purpose in terms off its intended “timeframe of safe use,” which is also misleading because there are short-term users as well who are affected.

 

I guess what I’m trying to say is that the dangers are real regarding the drugs, obviously that’s clear or we wouldn’t be here. I often feel there is danger in suppressing information and that includes anecdotal evidence which are people’s stories. I am not threatened by others’ stories, however. So I find it hard to relate with anyone who wished or wishes to silence another’s experience. I feel more threatened when people are curtailed for being able to be the way they feel as long as it’s their story they aren’t outright attacking anyone. Everyone has a right to their own experience.

 

I think too, it could take longer than we think sometimes. Like me, 2yr. 8mo. Sometimes lately I’ve wondered “will I heal?,” when I always felt I will before. I still don’t think it’s in my best interest or anyone else’s to claim what will happen with or to someone else, or to try and take away their own space for them to be themselves here and feel what they feel.

 

I’m editing right now, so this is some added commentary—but that’s just it, it’s commentary. It’s an opinion. We all should be able to have them. Sometimes that’s annoying, but I feel it’s better than there being one opinion we all have to agree to and follow.

 

I understand a lot of what you are saying because I feel similar so often, Hl01.

 

Well, it’s all so complicated. It is and it’s frustrating and frightening, but should not have such a dire outcome as far as years of suffering and all the rest for the majority of individuals prescribed or who have used.

 

Not saying I know anything really, but I feel that it can take longer just like diana123 wrote here, and I also feel there is a ton of hope for us.

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ive been reading ALL am on success stories. seems to be that people who ct or rapid taper dont heal or they quit posting or still suffering Years out. people who have micro tapered do well. this is very misleading as we are told "we all Heal" im pissed. At a year off I still cant take my 3 yr old to an Easter egg hunt yesterday without being completely overstimulated and spent the rest of the day in bed. im getting worse much much much worse at a year off. im in constant disconnect, dp/dr, anxious, cant function. we all heal huh??? not what im seeing. I cant live this way much longer.

 

I’m not trying to be rude, but I’m going to help you fact check some things.  Even people who post here don’t represent 100% of people who get off their benzo. Pretty sure people who post here for the most part are “worse cases” apart from those who get off benzos with little problems. 

 

It’s not misleading that people heal from benzo use. A bigger problem in all of this benzo/psych drug use and discontinuation is the WHY people began taking the drugs. I see so many cases where people started meds for anxiety issues, depression, etc. I’m of the opinion based on my own research and my own experience that if we don’t work to deal with our anxieties etc. we won’t magically “heal” because—we had a pill to do the proverbial work for us before. Stopping these drugs leaves our brains in a chemically altered state for a while.

 

I don’t know your history, but consider why you began taking whichever drug you took. Consider what life circumstances are contributing right now. Understand that while these drugs have a similar effect across the board, individuals are vastly different in how we process life and its difficulties. I’ve personally had to do a lot of cognitive behavioral therapy and expose myself to things that cause anxiety and panic. It’s a LOT of work and it’s SCARY sometimes. While this board is a wealth of information and support, it’s also fraught with very extreme cases, people who have difficulties we cannot imagine, so comparing does no good. In fact, it hurts. Fear of withdrawal and what will happen after we’re done is the biggest determining factor in my opinion. Try your best not to be consumed by the board, live your life as best possible and let yourself heal on your own timeline. I wish you the best. 💕

 

This is a pretty good post, I agree. While I don’t believe in so much of what’s going on in psychiatry in terms of all the labels on people and generally irresponsible, inadequate help, misinformation and wrong ideas of the mental health field I still feel what’s said here is important.

 

And not that you would agree with any of those things either, NM, not at all.

 

I also feel it is so important to look at underlying issues and why we are on in the first place—not that it’s all always down to something wrong in us. It could be trauma (as we well know) that was not related to anything we could have, in our own lives, prevented from happening. It could be something societal that is wrong that we were not able to deal with or have enough protection from and support with. There are tools, and answers to get to root issues and take healing into our own hands. I am in 100% agreement.

 

I am trying to work though all of these things and see some others on here digging deep to find the strength to face it all, including yourself NM 🌿❤️

 

I feel you are so right, too, in that most people do heal quickly and don’t even have a need for these boards. The truth is there is a lot to all of this, but it shouldn’t have to be worst-case scenario in terms of the ability to recover for most people it seems.

 

The danger, as we know, is having the complex problems surrounding the entire issue and all the depressing stuff about how this is happening that a medication is prescribed past it’s purpose in terms off its intended “timeframe of safe use,” which is also misleading because there are short-term users as well who are affected.

 

I guess what I’m trying to say is that the dangers are real regarding the drugs, obviously that’s clear or we wouldn’t be here. I often feel there is danger in suppressing information and that includes anecdotal evidence which are people’s stories. I am not threatened by others’ stories, however. So I find it hard to relate with anyone who wished or wishes to silence another’s experience. I feel more threatened when people are curtailed for being able to be the way they feel as long as it’s their story they aren’t outright attacking anyone. Everyone has a right to their own experience.

 

I think too, it could take longer than we think sometimes. Like me, 2yr. 8mo. Sometimes lately I’ve wondered “will I heal?,” when I always felt I will before. I still don’t think it’s in my best interest or anyone else’s to claim what will happen with or to someone else, or to try and take away their own space for them to be themselves here and feel what they feel.

 

I’m editing right now, so this is some added commentary—but that’s just it, it’s commentary. It’s an opinion. We all should be able to have them. Sometimes that’s annoying, but I feel it’s better than there being one opinion we all have to agree to and follow.

 

I understand a lot of what you are saying because I feel similar so often, Hl01.

 

Well, it’s all so complicated. It is and it’s frustrating and frightening, but should not have such a dire outcome as far as years of suffering and all the rest for the majority of individuals prescribed or who have used.

 

Not saying I know anything really, but I feel that it can take longer just like diana123 wrote here, and I also feel there is a ton of hope for us.

 

Agree 100%. Life is so COMPLEX. Layers and layers of complexity within all of us and our experiences. I’ve had many, many days and weeks of wondering if I’ll heal. Honestly wondering.  I get that part so much. I really do.