Peptides for sleep aid

[[As...]]

I'm removing this post because the mods here are uneducated about this peptide stuff and clearly do not want them trying to explain the truth and open their eyes.

[[pi...]]

I have had a terrible insomnia problem my whole life and the taper makes it worse-

But - if you can get your hands on a peptide called CJC-1295 w/o DAC with IPAM - and you are not afraid of using insulin needles - it is a miracle for sleep!

 

I eat dinner and then wait 2 hours and then inject it with an insulin needle and I am out like a light 15-30 minutes later. It's a secretagogue (sp?) of human growth hormone.

 

If I wake up during the night I have an extra insulin needle dosage ready and again I am down dead asleep  in 15 minutes after the injection.

 

I have never slept so deeply or had so many vivid dreams!

 

Ashtonhelp,

 

The use of anabolic steroids can be very dangerous and promoting them on the forum will not be permitted.

 

Anabolic steroids can cause cardiovascular problems, skin issues, hypertension, liver cysts, liver cancer and a plethora of other problems.  I really hope you are under a doctor's care while using this substance.

 

I realize that lack of sleep is one of the most difficult benzo withdrawal issues to deal with, but using a potentially damaging substance to help with sleep is taking a step in the wrong direction. IMO.

 

pianogirl

[[ne...]]

Well said, pianogirl!

[[As...]]

Actually - if you do your research and not just open the first page that talks about this peptide -

You will see that it is NOT an anabolic steroid. The people who take steroids post about it on their websites that have information on steroids because it is commonly used by athletes.

 

"CJC 1295 without DAC is a 30 amino acid peptide hormone." NOT a steroid.

 

"CJC-1295 is just a peptide and not a steroid."

 

Please do your research first and know what you're accusing someone of promoting an anabolic steroid - which is harmful- and before condemning them for coming forward with information that might just help one person.

 

Clearly neither of you have done your research and I see your minds are closed so I will not bring this up again.

 

 

[Colin]

In response to:

 

Actually - if you do your research and not just open the first page that talks about this peptide -

You will see that it is NOT an anabolic steroid. The people who take steroids post about it on their websites that have information on steroids because it is commonly used by athletes.

 

"CJC 1295 without DAC is a 30 amino acid peptide hormone." NOT a steroid.

 

"CJC-1295 is just a peptide and not a steroid."

 

Please do your research first and know what you're accusing someone of promoting an anabolic steroid - which is harmful- and before condemning them for coming forward with information that might just help one person.

 

Clearly neither of you have done your research and I see your minds are closed so I will not bring this up again.

 

Your edited, opening post:

 

I'm removing this post because the mods here are uneducated about this peptide stuff and clearly do not want them trying to explain the truth and open their eyes.

 

And the original (unedited version):

 

I have had a terrible insomnia problem my whole life and the taper makes it worse-

But - if you can get your hands on a peptide called CJC-1295 w/o DAC with IPAM - and you are not afraid of using insulin needles - it is a miracle for sleep!

 

I eat dinner and then wait 2 hours and then inject it with an insulin needle and I am out like a light 15-30 minutes later. It's a secretagogue (sp?) of human growth hormone.

 

If I wake up during the night I have an extra insulin needle dosage ready and again I am down dead asleep  in 15 minutes after the injection.

 

I have never slept so deeply or had so many vivid dreams!

 

pianogirl's response:

 

Ashtonhelp,

 

The use of anabolic steroids can be very dangerous and promoting them on the forum will not be permitted.

 

Anabolic steroids can cause cardiovascular problems, skin issues, hypertension, liver cysts, liver cancer and a plethora of other problems.  I really hope you are under a doctor's care while using this substance.

 

I realize that lack of sleep is one of the most difficult benzo withdrawal issues to deal with, but using a potentially damaging substance to help with sleep is taking a step in the wrong direction. IMO.

 

pianogirl

 

So, a growth hormone, not a steroid, where clinical trials (as a possible treatment for Lipodystroph) were abandoned after the death of a test subject. If you think the salient point here is that CJC 1295 is a hormone (rather than a steroid), let me spell it out for you. The fact that it is undetermined if the drug that was responsible for the death does not mean that it is probably safe to take it. This stuff is 'black market' for a reason. And since it is not licensed for use anywhere, it is safe to assume that it was not prescribed to you by you doctor.

 

For more about this matter and how it relates to our rules, please refer to:

 

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=25835.0