Do we heal during taper?

[[mi...]]

I've been told that we can't get wimdows until we have finished our taper and have no benzos in our system.

 

Do we heal while we taper? Surely we do given that we get withdrawal effects which suggests healing..

[[Th...]]

Hi, I have felt that I have healed partly during my taper. Having smaller daily amounts of benzo allows me to be more active and my fatigue is not in the same level as it was 2 months ago. My appetite is also better than earlier. I lost lot of weight earlier and now I have succeed to gain it back a little bit.

 

So, overall I feel better now comparing 2 months ago but I still have long way to go. My biggest fear at the moment is symptoms related so I try to figure it out are they w/d related or something else to worry about. T.

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Hi, I have felt that I have healed partly during my taper. Having smaller daily amounts of benzo allows me to be more active and my fatigue is not in the same level as it was 2 months ago. My appetite is also better than earlier. I lost lot of weight earlier and now I have succeed to gain it back a little bit.

 

So, overall I feel better now comparing 2 months ago but I still have long way to go. My biggest fear at the moment is symptoms related so I try to figure it out are they w/d related or something else to worry about. T.

 

Feeling exactly like you describe Thomas66 ☺

[[Ca...]]

I've been told that we can't get wimdows until we have finished our taper and have no benzos in our system.

 

Do we heal while we taper? Surely we do given that we get withdrawal effects which suggests healing..

Thats the idea... Or why taper...

Sometimes its hard to see, and the time line is wonky...

 

But thats why people can slow taper from high/long dose, and not have any (or few) post jump SX..

 

 

[[Gr...]]

We must heal during withdrawal no?  Isn't that what is happening as the side effects of withdrawal start to go away and I stabilize after a cut?  I really hope so. I will say that I could not focus enough to read a book and retain the information for years leading up to the beginning of my taper, and after I got down from 2.5mgk to .5mgK, I could.  It was invigorating and I know it's completely related to the taper.  Even when I feel pretty awful physically, I am very grateful for this refound ability to read a book. 

[[so...]]

I think we heal going down. I hope so anyway. I feel pretty awful most days.

[[Ma...]]

Of course we heal during the taper or it would not work. But, there are certain things you won't get back until you are completely off the benzos. This is really obvious as I'm tapering the last of it. So, certain parts of you will probably not heal until you are completely off but you are healing overall.

[[ly...]]

Of course we heal during the taper or it would not work. But, there are certain things you won't get back until you are completely off the benzos. This is really obvious as I'm tapering the last of it. So, certain parts of you will probably not heal until you are completely off but you are healing overall.

 

Why do you say that there are certain things that you won't get back until you are completely off the benzos?  What things?

 

This has not been my experience.

 

And, yes, we do heal as we taper.  And it is possible to finish the taper with minimal (or no) healing left to occur.

[[Ma...]]

It could be because I'm tapering a long acting benzo. Why challenge me?  Isn't it obvious that you are not going to completely get over certain aspects until you are completely off a drug. Ever since I started tapering the last of it I've been getting back things I haven't had over 5mg of Librium. More of everything. Better cognitive abilities and better eye sight. Emotions are coming back. Too much. The active metabolite of Librium is the same as Valium though and this drug does build up in your system so my experience is going to different than a Xanax taper, if that is what you did. 

[[Ma...]]

What things? I guess it is different for everybody. Since I started tapering every drop has revealed more and more. I am most definitely healing as I taper though and I notice a very obvious pattern. I won't know for sure until I am completely off Librium but it is safe to say that I will get parts of me that I haven't felt in years once I jump.

[[bl...]]

Well you must heal as you taper unless why would anyone bother with it we would all cold turkey then if you can only heal once the drug is out of your system

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Well you must heal as you taper unless why would anyone bother with it we would all cold turkey then if you can only heal once the drug is out of your system

Agree 

[[be...]]

Of course we heal during the taper or it would not work. But, there are certain things you won't get back until you are completely off the benzos. This is really obvious as I'm tapering the last of it. So, certain parts of you will probably not heal until you are completely off but you are healing overall.

 

Why do you say that there are certain things that you won't get back until you are completely off the benzos?  What things?

 

This has not been my experience.

 

And, yes, we do heal as we taper.  And it is possible to finish the taper with minimal (or no) healing left to occur.

I agree we heal as we go down , and agree that a careful taper can have minimal sx, I beleive that I will be better than ever before.

[[Sa...]]

Hello, how are you doing so far this Month?  Hopefully taper is going well! SJ

[[Ma...]]

As you taper the last of it, certain aspects of the withdrawal change compared to when you taper higher doses, since you are still emotionally numb and as you get lower and start to feel more, certain parts of your brain that you haven't used since you started benzos starts getting active again. But this is true during any part of the taper which makes this hard to explain. We do heal as we taper but it seems that your emotional center needs to be off benzos completely before it can truly start healing the way we want it to. And the taper should be done as slowly as possible. These drugs shut down parts of your brain and you need to get off them completely before you get back all your functioning it seems. Getting toward the end is the most painful but most rewarding at the same time. All those déjà vu, familiar moments that you want come at the end though. As your CNS starts functioning again your brain will make connections better. This causes a lot of brain squeezing and zaps as your brain starts making connections again. For me at least this is the case. This only started happening at a level that I can appreciate below 5mg of Librium, which is about 2mg of Valium, or 0.1mg of Xanax or Klonopin.

[[ly...]]

As you taper the last of it, certain aspects of the withdrawal change compared to when you taper higher doses, since you are still emotionally numb and as you get lower and start to feel more, certain parts of your brain that you haven't used since you started benzos starts getting active again. But this is true during any part of the taper which makes this hard to explain. We do heal as we taper but it seems that your emotional center needs to be off benzos completely before it can truly start healing the way we want it to. And the taper should be done as slowly as possible. These drugs shut down parts of your brain and you need to get off them completely before you get back all your functioning it seems. Getting toward the end is the most painful but most rewarding at the same time. All those déjà vu, familiar moments that you want come at the end though. As your CNS starts functioning again your brain will make connections better. This causes a lot of brain squeezing and zaps as your brain starts making connections again. For me at least this is the case. This only started happening at a level that I can appreciate below 5mg of Librium, which is about 2mg of Valium, or 0.1mg of Xanax or Klonopin.

 

I didn't find this but we are all different.  The last .1mg xanax was the easiest.  Perhaps this is because I slowed it so much.  I walked off without issue and about 95% healed.  No jump.  No acute.  Just the final little bit of healing to do.

[[Ma...]]

Yes you did go very slowly. You more than likely went through most of your WD as you tapered on the low doses. I went at as quickly and safely as I could go all summer. I've been relentless with the pace and it has caught up with me. I'm just trying to point out that I noticed a big change at these doses below 5mg of Librium. I still need to finish my taper. The Lamictal is likely helping out symptoms from benzo wd too. It is still kind of early to say where any of us stand.

 

If you are doing good and feeling good, I would say that is a good thing and you are going to be fine.

[[ly...]]

Yes you did go very slowly. You more than likely went through most of your WD as you tapered on the low doses. I went at as quickly and safely as I could go all summer. I've been relentless with the pace and it has caught up with me. I'm just trying to point out that I noticed a big change at these doses below 5mg of Librium. I still need to finish my taper. The Lamictal is likely helping out symptoms from benzo wd too. It is still kind of early to say where any of us stand.

 

If you are doing good and feeling good, I would say that is a good thing and you are going to be fine.

 

I'm quite sure I'll be fine.  I am fine. I tapered such that wd was very mild the last year.  I do think the lamictal may help.  I read an article that says it helps benzo wd by regulating the release of glutamate.  I have been on it since 2007 so I really don't know what it did as far as wd and what had already up-regulated or down-regulated.  I took my taper slow enough to keep wd mild (after the first 15 months of "errors").  I wanted to have a full life during taper and also believe(d) that low sxs means an uneventful walk-off.

[[Ma...]]

I am more than likely going to take this approach for the last 2.5mg of Librium. No point to rush for me anymore. To the bitter end I guess.

[[ly...]]

 

 

Yes, I've never heard someone say that they were sorry they went slow.

[[Ca...]]

Im sorry I went slow...!!

 

-when I should have been holding...

 

Sorry guys... -couldnt help it...

 

[[st...]]

I was only on clonazepam for one month and then started to taper after finding this site, I hope that my short term use will allow me to recover quicker... although I have w/d everyday I hope that someday I will be able to write a nice 100% recovery story to give other hope..