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The lower the dose the harder the harder it gets


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Like a lot of us I realize that when you get to the lower doses even the smallest cuts can feel the worst. When I was forced to taper off of a daily dose of 6MGs of Klonopin in only 12 days I felt really awful. But, after I got down to .5MGs a day even the smallest cut makes me feel like I'm dying. Is there any medical explanation for this? In my perfect world it would get easier...
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You are simply in withdrawal.  Every benzo has a threshold where the doses aren't therapeutic.  I believe you are in the threshold (at least for you).
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That makes sense. It feels like it could be withdrawal. I tapered from .75mgs Daily down to .313MGs in a period of eight months. That's only about .051MGs a month. I would consider that a reasonable taper. I was on .75MGs for about seven months before I re-started the taper. At the .75MGs my only complaint was tinnitus. 

 

I started taking Xanax years ago for tinnitus. I expect that to last a while if I ever finish my taper. It's the near death experiences I've been having lately that I can't wrap my head around. I started my taper over two years ago and what I have experienced doesn't even come close to what I experienced lately.

 

When I make a cut I feel really terrible but I'll call my friend make a joke and ask him to come over. Or I'll send a text to one of my daughters saying screw the doctor, I just made another cut and I'm dying, LOL, Ha Ha Ha

 

 

This stopped being funny about last Sunday.

 

 

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I hope a few more BBs chime in on this post.  You, unfortunately, will have to weather through with getting off this crap.  Withdrawal is beyond words for the majority of us, but getting to the point of having no benzos is MUCH better than where you are now.  Once you jump and get over the first few weeks you should start feeling less shitty.  Nothing happens overnight but a positive attitude and some distraction along with good friends are very important.

 

Wishing you well.

 

 

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I sometimes wonder if staying on it is just what's keeping me sick...

When my primary care doctor or my neurologist mention that I was on  "A lot for a long time" I'm hearing, "Your f**ked pal."

My last cut was 16 days ago... F**k it. I'm going to make another one.

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I'm just over 3 weeks into a cut from 0.125 to 0.0625 of Klonopin. I thought it wouldn't be too bad but it is still kicking my ass. I completely understand where you are coming from, I have read that for some people the closer they get to the end of the taper the easier it gets. That's definitely not the case for me. Best of luck with the rest of your taper- we're almost there!
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Im around .125mg and keep getting my but kicked.  Its hard to get below this

 

agree!!

ever since i got to 0.25mg I'm struggling so much man...i wanna give up sometimes but I'm trying to push forward.

when i went to the ER the doctor was so kind and agreed a lot of what I'm going through is withdrawal especially because the dose I'm on is virtually nothing so while it might make me feel better for an hour or so i go right back into withdrawal soon after...

been at this dose for a bit now and just going to jump soon and pray and hope for the best.

i know it won't be easy because none of this is but I'm this low and aint no way in hell I'm going back up after all these months!

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I updose to .145 mgs today and it made me feel worse.  Had worse symptoms.  Going to sit here and  until i level out.  Im thinking i just need to make some bigger cuts and push through it.  I wont to be off by Christmas.  I would CT if I didnt have a job
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I updose to .145 mgs today and it made me feel worse.  Had worse symptoms.  Going to sit here and  until i level out.  Im thinking i just need to make some bigger cuts and push through it.  I wont to be off by Christmas.  I would CT if I didnt have a job

This is pretty much my opinion. Just before I dropped to .25MGs I was cutting the tab into 4 pieces. I'm looking at this tiny spec of a pill and it's hard to fathom that such a small amount can cause so much damage.

Want a friggen horror show.

 

This is some of the side effects of Klonopin that can happen just starting out.

 

•drowsiness,

•dizziness,

•weakness,

•unsteadiness,

•depression,

•loss of orientation,

•headache,

•sleep disturbances,

•problems with thinking or memory,

•slurred speech,

•dry mouth,

•sore gums,

•runny nose,

•loss of appetite,

•diarrhea,

•constipation, and

•blurred vision.

 

 

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If i were you i wouldn't cut. I would hold until you feel a bit more stable. I wish I knew this when my shit hit the fan! The slower you go, the shorter and easier your recovery will be. I know you want to be off this rubbish but believe me, slow is best. Glacial. You will be grateful later.
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I think I am finding this out the hard way, too. I have terrible depression that hits for weeks, and get brief windows in between, maybe 4-5 days. I thought I was doing okay, relatively speaking, but when I cut down to 0.18 I felt the worst depression ever. And I updosed and felt worse again. And was taking some muscle relaxant for a back injury so probably that screwed things up too.

So I'm bumping up to 0.25 again, even though it took a month or more to get there. I'll do a micro-taper, 10% every two weeks or even every month if it seems better. I agree, shaving these tiny crumbles into pieces is crazy.

Really makes you wonder what this stuff is. It seems innocuous when you start taking it and it calms you down, but geezus.

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What about slow liquid taper near rhe end on a small dose?  It isn't a race, and yiu have really done great getting at low.  Even getting to a very low dose is helping your bidy heal.
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Discussed about small doses with my doc this morning. She said that very small doses do not have anymore physical/therapeutical effect but they are taken more or less because of psychological reason to assure tapering ends smoothly, she also said it is totally fine and Psychological/placebo effect is important part of the process. Agreed couple of more cuts during next 2-4 weeks before jump.

 

Anyway, agree that lower the dose the harder it gets. In my case as well.

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I've had enough. I just made the jump off of .25MGs a day. For me the Klonopin is just keeping me in sort of a limbo hell. I have been laying on my couch with no paresthesia. That's the first time in almost a year. I went cold turkey off of .375MGs last year. I felt like holy crap and bumped back up to .75MGs. If I had it to do over I would have rode it out and I would have a year of healing behind me. It ended up being between feeling somewhat awful for an extended time of ripping off the band aid and feeling really shitty for a shorter period of time...
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Thomas6, I was told the same by a doctor in emergency. The truth is, and it is the truth, that they do not know how these drugs work. Especially primary care doctors. Astounding but true. So all they tell you is best guess. I studied this at uni and was told this by a very smart psychiatrist.  Most people here will attest that the small amounts at the end are crucial. Ofcourse there is such a thing as placebo effect and it may play a role here. However it is crucial to hold and go slow at the end. The desire to stop taking this poison once we know it is responsible for the nightmare we find ourselves in is overwhelming and I also fell pray to it. I wish I didn't so I am here advising to please think of the future suffering and go as slow as possible. I have been reading this forum for 2 years and one thing comes through clear, the people who took the longest to taper, have the easiest and shortest recovery time. They still suffer but generally nowhere near as much as the CTs or fast tapers.
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Ladybug1, I 100% agree what you posted. Small doses helps removing benzos from our bodies slowly, not only them we took recently but all the old amounts of bezos which are still there because of the half time effect. I'm 5mg Librium at the moment which roughly equals 2mg Valium and 0.1mg Klonopin. Planned to hold 3 more weeks before going further down. Well going somewhere 0.03K means I need to go 1.5mg Librium so I try to do it with 2-3 more cuts before jump.

 

Erniej, one alternative might be to go slowly further down with K before jump as written in the earlier post as well. Hopefully you feel better now! T.

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