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How can we get this message of benzo dangers out? Soundgarden - Cornell- Ativan


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Lawyer Kirk Pasich said Cornell, a recovering addict, had a prescription for Ativan, which he said has a range of side effects, including suicidal thoughts.

 

Major side effects associated with Ativan use include confusion, depression, and memory loss, according to AmericanAddictionCenters.org.

 

I would suspect he was addicted to ativan and didn't know how he was going to beat the dependency. Wife said he took a few extra before concert.

 

USA does not take Benzo addiction seriously.  Only opiod.

 

 

 

 

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Tragic and unacceptable. But such a high-profile death and the immediate focus on his Ativan use may be the thing that really gets the word out.
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Just found out about this...so sad. I used to be a big fan of Soundgarden. Benzos kill, there's no doubt about it.
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Lawyer Kirk Pasich said Cornell, a recovering addict, had a prescription for Ativan, which he said has a range of side effects, including suicidal thoughts.

 

Major side effects associated with Ativan use include confusion, depression, and memory loss, according to AmericanAddictionCenters.org.

 

I would suspect he was addicted to ativan and didn't know how he was going to beat the dependency. Wife said he took a few extra before concert.

 

USA does not take Benzo addiction seriously.  Only opiod.

I know, I know...the depression. Guess what I am direct tapering? Ativan.

I agree with you, I know opioids are extremely dangerous and are considered a gateway drug, but benzos are even more so.

I googled this and here is a link to one of the stories.

http://people.com/music/chris-cornells-family-response-suicide-ativan/

This is from people...

"The Cornell family’s attorney Kirk Pasich said in a statement that the family is “disturbed” at inferences that Cornell knowingly and intentionally took his life and that Cornell told his wife that he had taken “an extra Ativan or two” before his death.

 

“Without the results of toxicology tests, we do not know what was going on with Chris — or if any substances contributed to his demise,” Pasich said. “Chris, a recovering addict, had a prescription for Ativan and may have taken more Ativan than recommended dosages. The family believes that if Chris took his life, he did not know what he was doing, and that drugs or other substances may have affected his actions.”

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Solitude,

 

I think about you a lot but have never written.  Your strength and compassion for others is an inspiration. I want you to know you are in my prayers.

 

Susan

 

 

 

Thank you Susan. I hope your benzo battle is progressing. Everyone on this site kicks ass.

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Here's what I wrote.  Hope some people stumble onto it and get a heads up:  http://www.lindacrew.com/blog.htm

Thank you for sharing this! You know...I never did any drugs, drank alcohol maybe once a year at a social occasion and count on one hand how many times in my life I had been tipsy. Ativan was given to me for anxiety when Zoloft after 9 days gave me bad thoughts. No warnings, just told I could take it for life. Yeah, right!

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You can't, because as long as benzos are associated with addiction and illicit drug abuse no one is going to listen. Of course all of us know that benzos can cause serious, debilitating or even deadly problems even when taken "properly" but unfortunately the rest of the world isn't going to listen as long as there is a chance that the patient might be to blame.
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I think getting the word out is a two edged sword.. it could cause a reaction that get's dependent people yanked off their Rx..
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I think getting the word out is a two edged sword.. it could cause a reaction that get's dependent people yanked off their Rx..

 

Getting the word out in this way can lead to all kinds of problems. Not only do people tend to tune out when there is any kind of association with other drugs (especially illegal ones or legal drugs that were abused) but when it happens to a current or former drug addict it tends to reinforce in people's minds the idea that "it can't happen to me".

 

Of course it is all speculation at this point but even if the public does associate this death with benzos they are likely to associate it with the misuse of benzos. And maybe it was, but most of us here know that these drugs can cause the same problems even if they are taken exactly as prescribed.

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Expect PHARMA to get into damage control mode very quickly and shut this thing down with a back-door deal and a shut-up check to the family.  Standard operating procedure.  You'll be hearing soft-speak from the network media who peddle PHARMA poisons for big-time advertising revenue, using terms like "prescription medication," etc.  Then it will fade away and be gone.  Same 'ol same 'ol.  Next victim please...
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I think it is much too early to attribute all his issues to Ativan. He struggled with addiction to alcohol and other drugs (including opioids) from a very young age. Let's wait and see what the toxicology says about what was in his system and whatever other information might come out. I suspect they may find a "heavy load" of opioid.
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I think it is much too early to attribute all his issues to Ativan. He struggled with addiction to alcohol and other drugs (including opioids) from a very young age. Let's wait and see what the toxicology says about what was in his system and whatever other information might come out. I suspect they may find a "heavy load" of opioid.

 

There very well could have been something else going on but I think it is important to remember that there is no test to determine whether or not benzos caused suicidal thoughts or other problems in someone who took their own life.

 

It's quite a coincidence that benzos were part of the drug cocktail in many if not most celebrity deaths over the past couple of decades. Anna Nicole, Heath Ledger, MJ, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Whitney Houston, Gerald Levert, Amy Winehouse. And those are just some of the FAMOUS people who were on these meds when they passed.

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It's quite a coincidence that benzos were part of the drug cocktail in many if not most celebrity deaths over the past couple of decades. Anna Nicole, Heath Ledger, MJ, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Whitney Houston, Gerald Levert, Amy Winehouse. And those are just some of the FAMOUS people who were on these meds when they passed.

 

How so sad. How many more people need to die before it’s recognized on a serious level of just how dangerous benzos/Z-drugs are? Once benzos have done their damage, the usually unsuspecting person taking these drugs can’t find their way out safely from the clutches of these insidious drugs.

 

What’s missing here? It seems so obvious….benzos are the culprit. It is disgusting that this problem is raging, and yet so many can’t seem to see it for what it is….benzos. :(

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What’s missing here? It seems so obvious….benzos are the culprit. It is disgusting that this problem is raging, and yet so many can’t seem to see it for what it is….benzos. :(

 

It seems obvious to those of us who have been harmed by these drugs because we know what they are truly capable of that benzos very well could have played a role in many of these deaths but it is far from obvious to the rest of the world. To them, benzos are just another drug on the list of things these people were taking.

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Here is the link for a very interesting article. I guess it has not been provided yet.

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/05/19/was-chris-cornell-taking-the-worlds-deadliest-prescription-medication/

 

I encourage you reading it  and just think for yourself.

I was on a "dead pill" for more than 5 years, nobody from the medical professionals gave a damn about it...

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I started using Tumeric-Curcumin 5 days ago after a friend of the family was able to drop their AD and lorazapam cold turkey because he felt so good on Curcumin. During the 5 days I had two and half really good days which is great for me as that hasn't happened in 6 months. They say it could take 4 to 6 weeks to see the full benefits of Tumeric so I'm hoping I will continue to improve. I plan to re-instate my taper of the diazepam once I start to feel better.

 

Have any of you tried this to help with your symptoms?

 

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Interesting comments. Some people have had little difficulty getting off the pills, so they defend them. The others who have gone through hell don't ever want them again. How can we get through to those who get off easily? It seems like a losing battle. They don't help our cause. So what should be done?
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I was watching this series on TV called CELEBRITY AUTOPSY and 99% of these people had benzo's in their blood.  I think Hollywood runs on benzo's and Coke.
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Interesting comments. Some people have had little difficulty getting off the pills, so they defend them. The others who have gone through hell don't ever want them again. How can we get through to those who get off easily? It seems like a losing battle. They don't help our cause. So what should be done?

You make good points! And you know as much as I hate to say it there are people in the medical community that do prescribe benzos and educate their patients about them ( I recently came across a cardiologist that was benzo wise and he shook his head in disbelief before I got a 3rd of my story out and then went forth and told me how he handles benzos in extreme cases..) It's a mixture...

As much as I would love to blame Ativan solely (and believe me as one that is sticking it's clutches and pushing out) the sad fact is that Chris Cornell had a history of drugs and alcohol. Ativan might have p!ayed a part, but, who knows what else may have been in his system. And there may have been more underlying issues, such as depression whether caused by Ativan or not. Not all people can exhibit symptoms and can be high functioning. The truth of it is that Ativan might be in a list of what he consumed, and we might never know what he was thinking that night.

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Interesting comments. Some people have had little difficulty getting off the pills, so they defend them. The others who have gone through hell don't ever want them again. How can we get through to those who get off easily? It seems like a losing battle. They don't help our cause. So what should be done?

You make good points! And you know as much as I hate to say it there are people in the medical community that do prescribe benzos and educate their patients about them ( I recently came across a cardiologist that was benzo wise and he shook his head in disbelief before I got a 3rd of my story out and then went forth and told me how he handles benzos in extreme cases..) It's a mixture...

As much as I would love to blame Ativan solely (and believe me as one that is sticking it's clutches and pushing out) the sad fact is that Chris Cornell had a history of drugs and alcohol. Ativan might have p!ayed a part, but, who knows what else may have been in his system. And there may have been more underlying issues, such as depression whether caused by Ativan or not. Not all people can exhibit symptoms and can be high functioning. The truth of it is that Ativan might be in a list of what he consumed, and we might never know what he was thinking that night.

 

Chris was also a Coker.  For some people it takes 10 years to come back to normal from a coke habit.  Maybe he did not make it in time? 

The withdrawal from coke kills off your dopamine system for a decade.  It's pure misery and long term coke users tend to have the highest suicide rates.

 

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The truth of it is that Ativan might be in a list of what he consumed, and we might never know what he was thinking that night.

 

I agree, but it should raise some eyebrows that this class of drugs is a common denominator in many (most??) celebrity deaths, and on top of that his wife called out Ativan specifically.

 

Where there is smoke there is usually fire.

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Interesting comments. Some people have had little difficulty getting off the pills, so they defend them. The others who have gone through hell don't ever want them again. How can we get through to those who get off easily? It seems like a losing battle. They don't help our cause. So what should be done?

You make good points! And you know as much as I hate to say it there are people in the medical community that do prescribe benzos and educate their patients about them ( I recently came across a cardiologist that was benzo wise and he shook his head in disbelief before I got a 3rd of my story out and then went forth and told me how he handles benzos in extreme cases..) It's a mixture...

As much as I would love to blame Ativan solely (and believe me as one that is sticking it's clutches and pushing out) the sad fact is that Chris Cornell had a history of drugs and alcohol. Ativan might have p!ayed a part, but, who knows what else may have been in his system. And there may have been more underlying issues, such as depression whether caused by Ativan or not. Not all people can exhibit symptoms and can be high functioning. The truth of it is that Ativan might be in a list of what he consumed, and we might never know what he was thinking that night.

 

Chris was also a Coker.  For some people it takes 10 years to come back to normal from a coke habit.  Maybe he did not make it in time? 

The withdrawal from coke kills off your dopamine system for a decade.  It's pure misery and long term coke users tend to have the highest suicide rates.

 

Yes, when River Phoenix started seizing and passed away, there were reports that he might have taken some valium. It turned out later that he had both a cocaine and a heroin habit, and on that fateful day, he took 7 times the lethal limit of cocaine, as well as heroin. His heart rate was sky high. Someone gave him a valium or two, but there was  no way a couple of valium pills were going to stop the severe cocaine overdose. The world lost a fantastic actor, and the whole thing was just beyond sad.

 

Not to deny any suffering Chris has experienced from Ativan alone (and yes, Ativan alone can cause profound clinical depression), but most people realize that there are far more dangerous drugs than benzodiazepines out there.

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