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Cold turkey today off 1mg klonopin, 5mg of valium, 350mg of addictive muscle relaxer soma. I figure that if my body really wants to live, it will survive this. I have to pretend that I am on a desert island with no medicine and I have to survive somehow. I refuse to consume another piece of toxic waste. My DNA test results revealed that my body should not consume anti-convulsants or sedatives of any nature so anytime I touch this stuff, I am killing myself. It feels like death on them so I'm done. Why live to poison oneself? I am going to try and use mind over matter and say that lack of benzos cannot kill me. I will repeat it until I collapse. This will not kill me.
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I understand how you feel about drugs poisoning your body. I feel the same way. I decided to come off valium bc I know at some point really soon, the DEA is going to lower the boom on these meds and I don't want to be left in a bad situation. I want to be in control of how I come off benzos, not a doctor or pharmacist telling me im cut off. Also, I found out benzos cause dementia, alzheimers, ect..., also, I don't want to be a slave to this drug. I'm so done. I wish I could c/t like you but I'm so afraid of seizures I can't. Good luck to you and please let us know how you're progressing throughout. PM me if you want. Stay strong  :smitten:
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I understand how you feel about drugs poisoning your body. I feel the same way. I decided to come off valium bc I know at some point really soon, the DEA is going to lower the boom on these meds and I don't want to be left in a bad situation. I want to be in control of how I come off benzos, not a doctor or pharmacist telling me im cut off. Also, I found out benzos cause dementia, alzheimers, ect..., also, I don't want to be a slave to this drug. I'm so done. I wish I could c/t like you but I'm so afraid of seizures I can't. Good luck to you and please let us know how you're progressing throughout. PM me if you want. Stay strong  :smitten:

 

 

I am not afraid of seizures because my blood pressure is always perfect, I have done extensive testing and my tests come back perfect, everything about me seems perfect -- according to the doctors. I went to detox for a few days once and I didn't have any changes in blood pressure, temperature, or anything. The symptoms/side effects that scare me the most however, are my muscle spasms, the way I will wake up and feel like I can't breathe or talk, or that I am can't move. After withdrawal, I will try to walk and the more I try the shakier I become and the more I begin to black out. I am not sure what that is all about. When those symptoms happen, I used to take my medicine, but I won't this time.

 

 

 

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Im having a difficult time understanding your usage. If i got this straight youve been on 2mg Kpin for close to 2years? But then someone posted a link of you in 2011? I could advise you with more clarity if you were more specific with dosage and timeline on your signature. Yet if i surmise correctly-ct from 2years of 2mg Kpin isnt advised at all. You should at least stay soley on the 5mg valium minus the Kpin for a reasonable taper to stave off unnesessary suffering. Please be more specific on your timeline. Im very interested in your progress. I essentially cold turkeyed high dose Kpin and ativan 11months ago. Its getting better. Another thing: when i was younger i didnt seem to experience the harsher wd symptoms as i am now decads later so you do have age going for you.
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Im having a difficult time understanding your usage. If i got this straight youve been on 2mg Kpin for close to 2years? But then someone posted a link of you in 2011? I could advise you with more clarity if you were more specific with dosage and timeline on your signature. Yet if i surmise correctly-ct from 2years of 2mg Kpin isnt advised at all. You should at least stay soley on the 5mg valium minus the Kpin for a reasonable taper to stave off unnesessary suffering. Please be more specific on your timeline. Im very interested in your progress. I essentially cold turkeyed high dose Kpin and ativan 11months ago. Its getting better. Another thing: when i was younger i didnt seem to experience the harsher wd symptoms as i am now decads later so you do have age going for you.

 

Yes I have been on and off benzos since I was 23 and am now 33. I didn't want to chronicle that whole decade because there isn't enough space in the summary. I am about 28 hours into my latest cold turkey and i can barely move my fingers. I cant type so must stop now. my body is seizing up.

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Just took some gabapentin and am able to type a bit better. So I began with ativan up to 4 or 5mg daily throughout my 20s. I went on and off it with no problem then. When I was 27, I stopped for quite some times until the age of 31 when I experienced a bad withdrawal from ceasing birth control pills. The emergency room gave me klonopin to calm my central nervous system and thus I reinstated on benzos. Then I piled on soma and valium to the mix. My body is going haywire 2 years late and Ive been on a rollercoaster of going off and going back on over and over.
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Ive been on and off benzos since i was 18-4 decades-but its the daily use for a long time that will get you. So again-you seem to have been ok with your sporadic use thru the years-correct? But now youve used soma valium and Kpin DAILY for 2 years and then a very short detox? To be honest-if youve used for 2 years straight-i would highly recommend you get back on them and at least do some kind of taper. Youve set yourself up for more suffering because of ct.  I did a very fast "taper" and ive had a rough go of it but im much better at 11 months. I know what you mean when you say you just want off the poison. But even a months taper would be better then no taper. But then again-ive read about people who used only a few weeks or a month who do this long drawn out taper which i believe to be insane because then the taper makes you more addicted thus more difficult to kick. Keep us posted your progress.
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Ive been on and off benzos since i was 18-4 decades-but its the daily use for a long time that will get you. So again-you seem to have been ok with your sporadic use thru the years-correct? But now youve used soma valium and Kpin DAILY for 2 years and then a very short detox? To be honest-if youve used for 2 years straight-i would highly recommend you get back on them and at least do some kind of taper. Youve set yourself up for more suffering because of ct.  I did a very fast "taper" and ive had a rough go of it but im much better at 11 months. I know what you mean when you say you just want off the poison. But even a months taper would be better then no taper. But then again-ive read about people who used only a few weeks or a month who do this long drawn out taper which i believe to be insane because then the taper makes you more addicted thus more difficult to kick. Keep us posted your progress.

 

I've decided to stay on the Soma (but I am using a great deal more now) and use that to get off the benzos. It is a gaba potentiator so it can assist to some extent. I also am taking zofran for the head pressure which helps. Right now after about 32 hours off the medication, I am not doing as bad as I could be. My muscles are very stiff though and I only feel better when I get up but then I feel the need to lie down (vicious cycle). I am having esophogeal and stomach spasms which I am taking antacids for. I have to get up to burp to push the indigestion out otherwise the pressure in my stomach and throat is immense. So Ive tripled my Soma intake to do this. I wonder how long it will be before I am in the clear and know that I won't have any life threatening reactions.

 

I dont want to go back on but thanks for the recommendation. The only way I will go back on is if I feel as if I truly am about to die, choke, truly pass out and cant call 911 in time. I have a klonopin right near my hand in case of an emergency so I can chew it immediately. But the circumstances would have to be pretty dire to resort to that.

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Question: can you please tell me the window for seizure potential with benzos? I know this is common question but I am too out of it to research.
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People have had seizures up to three weeks after stopping benzos cold turkey (it may be longer, but the ones I happen to know about happened between 4 days and 3 weeks)

 

Just and FYI, I did a quick taper (less than 2 months) off 1mg klonopin.  I have extreme muscle spasms (can't walk without flexeril - a non-benzo muscle relaxer).  Additionally, my legs go completely paralyzed, and my arms and hands flap randomly at my sides.  I have been told by a few doctors that had i tapered slower, this probably wouldn't have happened, and if it did, not to this extent.  If you are worried about tightened muscles and spasms, you may want to consider reinstating and tapering.  Also, if I were you, I would start a stretching and yoga program NOW, before your muscles get too tight to move!  I am 5 months off klonopin, and the muscle issues have barely gotten better at all.

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People have had seizures up to three weeks after stopping benzos cold turkey (it may be longer, but the ones I happen to know about happened between 4 days and 3 weeks)

 

Just and FYI, I did a quick taper (less than 2 months) off 1mg klonopin.  I have extreme muscle spasms (can't walk without flexeril - a non-benzo muscle relaxer).  Additionally, my legs go completely paralyzed, and my arms and hands flap randomly at my sides.  I have been told by a few doctors that had i tapered slower, this probably wouldn't have happened, and if it did, not to this extent.  If you are worried about tightened muscles and spasms, you may want to consider reinstating and tapering.  Also, if I were you, I would start a stretching and yoga program NOW, before your muscles get too tight to move!  I am 5 months off klonopin, and the muscle issues have barely gotten better at all.

 

Wow. that is really scary. Did you have spasms before you took benzos? I hate flexeril and much prefer Soma. I cant take flexeril because it gives me anxiety. My doctor diagnosed me with fibromyalgia but that's because benzo symptoms mimic that disorder I believe. Benzos gave me muscle spasm and neurological problems. I will probably reinstate because I am sure my symptoms are going to become horrific. I have been off about 36 hours and I'm taking tons of Soma to stop muscle contractions. My doctor told me she would give me as much soma as I needed in order to get off the the benzos. I do feel better when I am in motion -- you are right about stretching. It's when I stop moving that I feel my symptoms....When I sit in bed, I turn to stone and I can feel every little twitch and electric shock.

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Zofran is generally used to treat nausea and vomiting. Just FYI.

 

Exactly. Zofran is also a serotonin blocker and a rush of serotonin from benzo withdrawal can cause severe head pressure. Zofran eliminates the head pressure. Many people use it for that reason here.

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'I've decided to stay on the Soma (but I am using a great deal more now) and use that to get off the benzos.' I would not do that.

 

'I have been off about 36 hours and I'm taking tons of Soma to stop muscle contractions. My doctor told me she would give me as much soma as I needed in order to get off the the benzos. ' The doc obviously doesn't know what he is doing.

 

I think that soma can increase benzo w/d symptoms or raise the seizure treshold in benzo W/D. I'm sorry, I don't recall where I learned that.

 

Honestly, it doesn't seem very rational.

 

Life threatening seizures are very rare although not impossible.

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'I've decided to stay on the Soma (but I am using a great deal more now) and use that to get off the benzos.' I would not do that.

 

'I have been off about 36 hours and I'm taking tons of Soma to stop muscle contractions. My doctor told me she would give me as much soma as I needed in order to get off the the benzos. ' The doc obviously doesn't know what he is doing.

 

I think that soma can increase benzo w/d symptoms or raise the seizure treshold in benzo W/D. I'm sorry, I don't recall where I learned that.

 

Honestly, it doesn't seem very rational.

 

Life threatening seizures are very rare although not impossible.

 

 

Not sure how that's possible since you can't say how it worsens it or provide any supporting evidence. I can't act on blind faith based on opinions you heard from someone else but thank you for letting me know anyway.

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i wish you the best and hope you get through. i m soooooo close to saying the hell with this and jumping off diazepam, ive been a trainwreck from it since i went into tolerance in late 2015. 24/7 bad acid trip, drunken, dizzy agoraphobic mess. im so tired of this poison i loathe every time i take it. work has been a nightmare, my "social" life has been destroyed, no one around understands whats wrong, ugh......this taper has given no relief and feels like its prolonging the nightmare

 

i hope you get through, your age is on your side. im 45, on the verge of old lol. (when concerning how gettng off these damn benzos affects me)

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I did a quick look, and could not find any firm evidence.

 

Obviously, there is some cross tolerance. There are metabolites, and I think that meprobamate will accumulate.

 

It would not be my obvious choice, and taking large amounts of soma daily has its own issues ...

Lyrica and gabapentin would seem more obvious, but neither is without risks.

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I did a quick look, and could not find any firm evidence.

 

Obviously, there is some cross tolerance. There are metabolites, and I think that meprobamate will accumulate.

 

It would not be my obvious choice, and takign large amounts of soma daily has its own issues ...

Lyrica and gabapentin would seem more obvious, but neitehr is without risks.

 

What is meprobamate and it's relevance? I am not taking large amounts -- I shouldn't have said that. To me, two pills of soma is a large amount since I used to only take two. Gabapentin doesn't help me. Soma is getting me through this to a certain extent. It's only been 56 hours, but I'm making it through so far. I mean, this is extremely uncomfortable but I was extremely uncomfortable on benzos anyway. I am going off because it is to the point where paradoxical effects are taking over. Soma does act in a slightly similar way to benzos though, and it when people taper off Soma, they use klonopin and sometimes vice versa.

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i wish you the best and hope you get through. i m soooooo close to saying the hell with this and jumping off diazepam, ive been a trainwreck from it since i went into tolerance in late 2015. 24/7 bad acid trip, drunken, dizzy agoraphobic mess. im so tired of this poison i loathe every time i take it. work has been a nightmare, my "social" life has been destroyed, no one around understands whats wrong, ugh......this taper has given no relief and feels like its prolonging the nightmare

 

i hope you get through, your age is on your side. im 45, on the verge of old lol. (when concerning how gettng off these damn benzos affects me)

 

I know -- we tend to lose everything when we take the benzo path and especially when we choose to leave it. I have come to accept that I might lose EVERYTHING due to withdrawal. I am even stopping before an important career event in my life. But I realized I can't make anymore excuses and that health is NUMBER ONE ALWAYS. Without health, I am nothing. It's hard to eat while I am going through this and don't have the chance often to get food since my husband is always working, but despite this, I am maintaining a healthy diet of no gluten, dairy, sugar, processed foods, etc. I make sure to move around so that I don't gain weight during this stagnant withdrawal time. Health is number one -- nothing else comes close to the priority of this! I have envisioned the worst: my savings gone, my house gone, my job gone, my material possessions gone: having to start from scratch. But I also envision myself healthy by that point and it makes it all worth it.

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This feels so dangerous. I wonder when I will be out of the danger zone. It's my stomach that's bothering me the most -- indigestion that hurts. I can deal with the other side effects, even though those are excruciating as well. I keep counting the hours that pass. I am not interested in even watching anything to distract me. I don't know what to do.
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I know I am talking to myself here but it's ok; this is my thread, ha. My doctor has been calling me twice a day to check in on me and I tell her about my symptoms and she promises me I won't die because I am getting off such a "low dose". I know people keep contradicting that saying 1mg of klonopin is NOT a low dose. To some, they believe it is; to others, they believe it is a high one. I guess this all rides on the health of my own body. I am in perfect shape and health aside from benzo related problems so I should make it no matter how horrible I feel. If my doctor proves to be wrong, however, will she have to bear responsibility for telling me nothing would happen to me? Can she be held accountable?

 

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your response to my rambling desperate post lol about health number one absolutely true.

in the face of this, at its worst, ive felt like, hell take it all i dont care i just wana feel better!

especially going through my mid life crisis and really becoming more aware than ever of mortality and trying to totally appreciate what i do have, this has all given such a perspective on life.

im glad your doc checking in on you, thats reassuring. i have a pretty cool doc even though, like most, hes not really up on benzo withdrawal the way all of us who are suffering from it are. ill be in a similar boat soon as im not liquid titrating or micro tapering, etc, i just dont have it in me to do that, at some point pretty soon ill be saying the hell with it and jumping, maybe at half my current dose. im basically chipping these damn pills away with my fingers and its just absurd.

been suffering at 5mg, but its coming time to cut soon, theres no plateau for me here in tolerance.

i do see my doc and therapist in the next couple weeks, hopefully can get some perspective, or as you have, some monitoring on my crazy plight.'

my post here is totally rambling, i apologize lol, im suffering at work right now sneaking this in.

im sending huge positive vibes at ya, for real, my best, and i hope you get through this as smoothly as is possible.

you have courage, and i know its in the name of taking your life and health back.

DO IT!

my best

some rambling geeky dude out there trying to survive benzo withdrawal and carry on the facade of a "normal" life.... ugh ive had enough of this....

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I know I am talking to myself here but it's ok; this is my thread, ha. My doctor has been calling me twice a day to check in on me and I tell her about my symptoms and she promises me I won't die because I am getting off such a "low dose". I know people keep contradicting that saying 1mg of klonopin is NOT a low dose. To some, they believe it is; to others, they believe it is a high one. I guess this all rides on the health of my own body. I am in perfect shape and health aside from benzo related problems so I should make it no matter how horrible I feel. If my doctor proves to be wrong, however, will she have to bear responsibility for telling me nothing would happen to me? Can she be held accountable?

 

Hi Clara. I think it's amazing that your doctor is checking on you. Would you mind sharing who you are seeing? I live in Barnstable County, I left my doctor of 25 years (Boston)... finally! After my c/t I lost faith in him. I stopped taking my medication with 180 pills in my home, I had no idea (at least I don't think I did) what was to follow.

 

You have mentioned that you are very healthy while not in w/d and that your most troubling symptoms are GI issues. I resumed taking a good probiotic in Feb. I think it has helped me a lot. You may already take one or perhaps you tryed and it made things worse, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

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