Stuck at 0.25 of valium

March 22, 2017

Hello I've been tapering steadily for roughly a year and a half. I started the taper, had some road blocks, but continued down from 40 mg of valium to 0.25 of valium. Ive been at 0.25 for mutable weeks and its been such a long journey. I have forgotten who I am for the most part.

When I say .25 I mean a quarter of 1mg of valium

I don't feel consistently emotionally well and have become accustomed to being a very dark and lonely person.

I am going through selling my home and moving which is basically killing me, as well as some other extremely difficult life situations that require a lot of showing up and a lot of work to just NOT be a super reactionary freak and a total a$$hole to everone and everything around me.

Selling my home should be situated in a couple months and the other difficult life stuff will slowly resolve itself in a couple months also.

I am afraid to jump off because I don't know how its going to affect me emotionally. ANd honestly the last year and a half has been so treacherous emotionally that I couldn't imagine life getting any lower.

I really want to be free of this heinous little pill.

Im wondering if holding at 0.25 for a couple more months until life is a little more manageable would actually interfere with the longevity of the withdrawal I will feel as a result in jumping.

Please tell me there is someone (anyone) who jumped at 0.25 that DIDNT experience a withdrawal effect.....

Anybody have an experience like mine who stayed on 0.25 for a couple months before jumping off? ANd what was jumping off like after that ?

March 22, 2017

I jumped from .25 ativan last week. Not the same thing at all , but i feel a lot better. I feel like, it all depends on the sitatution. Forgive me, I dont understand your signature. How long were you on benzos all together before you started tapering? Sometimes i feel like doing an extremely long taper can do more harm then good, cause everyday you're taking a small ammount of a pill that you now have a high tolerence too

March 22, 2017

Its been about two years total that i've been on valium. With the last year and a half tapering down.

March 22, 2017

Hello I've been tapering steadily for roughly a year and a half. I started the taper, had some road blocks, but continued down from 40 mg of valium to 0.25 of valium. Ive been at 0.25 for mutable weeks and its been such a long journey. I have forgotten who I am for the most part.

When I say .25 I mean a quarter of 1mg of valium

I don't feel consistently emotionally well and have become accustomed to being a very dark and lonely person.

I am going through selling my home and moving which is basically killing me, as well as some other extremely difficult life situations that require a lot of showing up and a lot of work to just NOT be a super reactionary freak and a total a$$hole to everone and everything around me.

Selling my home should be situated in a couple months and the other difficult life stuff will slowly resolve itself in a couple months also.

I am afraid to jump off because I don't know how its going to affect me emotionally. ANd honestly the last year and a half has been so treacherous emotionally that I couldn't imagine life getting any lower.

I really want to be free of this heinous little pill.

Im wondering if holding at 0.25 for a couple more months until life is a little more manageable would actually interfere with the longevity of the withdrawal I will feel as a result in jumping.

Please tell me there is someone (anyone) who jumped at 0.25 that DIDNT experience a withdrawal effect.....

Anybody have an experience like mine who stayed on 0.25 for a couple months before jumping off? ANd what was jumping off like after that ?

Hi John,

First, congratulations on being cautious with your taper. I'm sorry you're feeling bad right now, life stresses like moving can really make tapering more difficult. We sold and bought a home early in my taper and it was very challenging and my symptoms became disabling during that time. I do believe you're doing the right thing by holding and I always say a slow and sensible is always the best way to go unless you've only been on these for a very short while.

You may be feeling worse because of the moving and cuts catching up. I really believe you want to aim for a soft landing off of these and if you're feeling symptomatic at .25 V, you may want to continue holding and taper Valium to zero. I know you've been tapering for 1 1/2 years and it seems like an eternity, but you're really doing great coming off 40 mg in that amount of time. There's a guy called Etown that tapered Valium to zero and had a relatively easy post recovery period. You may want to read his success story. I'm sure there are others out there but his name is the first name that comes to my mind first.

You'll get a lot of reassurance for holding over on the Long Hold support thread if you want to reach out over there and post. I'm guessing after the life stressors settle you may find yourself feeling a bit better and able to taper off. Whatever you decide, I wish you well and hope you get relief soon,

March 22, 2017

Thanks willdoit, I didn't even know there was a "hold" section of this site !! Very encouraging. Hey and thanks for sharing your experience too

March 22, 2017

Thanks willdoit, I didn't even know there was a "hold" section of this site !! Very encouraging. Hey and thanks for sharing your experience too

You're most welcome John. Here's the link to the support group... http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=153201.0

Good job getting the whole house thing taken care of, that's a biggie. You can try and relax a bit when you settle into your new place.

March 22, 2017

Hey John... depending on how you feel honestly, .25 is way more than a safe jumping point. I spent almost a year tapering off this crap, and honestly at .5 of v I thought I'd never get "right". Thought I'd have a huge issue on getting off this stuff.

Just so ya know, I popped off and seriously felt better. Literally. Felt much better after taper and have better days every day forward. I'm not 100% this is the same for you, but I had some hurdles all the way down.. but feel pretty dang good now.

If you feel that it's to much, assess it every week. Don't stress over it. Anxiety is a bitch. I wonder if the issues that are showing are anxiety of being "free". Just take it slow, and seriously one day you'll say enough is enough, and do what's right for your given situation. Try not to stress it. Don't think of it as stuck. Call it a vacation from taper. You can get it done. You're so close! Also.. .25mg really isn't doing anything anyways. I think minimum dosage for children is between 1mg and 2mg. You're seriously at the finish line. Just take your time, and when you're ready, you'll know it. 👍

March 22, 2017

Hey folks! Im day 12 at .25 and feel the same way...stuck as what to do next? Part of me wants to jump and the other part wants me to be stable some more. John, do you feel stable enough to jump?

March 22, 2017

I felt the stress of moving to a new state and buying a home. Now that I'm comfortably in it, the stress has gone away. This is a biggie that can affect your situation. I plan to jump at .25 mg of Valium too, and hope it will be a non event. I hope the same goes for you.

March 22, 2017

At .25mg V, you may have a psychological dependency, but you don't have a physical dependency.

Just jump.

March 22, 2017

At .25mg V, you may have a psychological dependency, but you don't have a physical dependency.

Just jump.

when I cut .25 , I get slammed hard with every symptom for a few days to a weeks.. everyone is diff.

March 22, 2017

If you haven't felt better on that low a dose for some time, Id jump if it was me. When I moved mid taper it made me feel horrible. Stress makes me feel worse on any level really. when your ready I think you'll be ok and congratulations! I cant wait myself and have these same thoughts now as I get lower.

March 22, 2017

I agree with Builder on this. There's probably absolutely no physical dependency on .25 mg. But psychologically you're still attached which is a valid reason for your symptoms. The moving and the issue of jumping might not go together. Personally I'd just stop them...one less thing to do during the move or if you're stuck...move..then stop. Moving is extremely stressful at the best of times so whichever way works best just decide and do it. You might also still have some residual effects from the tapering still so still having symptoms from that. They might last for a bit yet but personally as I say I'd just stop them. Or yes try the long holds board. Might give you help there. B

March 22, 2017

I'm interested so following.

I jumped at the equivalent of .2mg v just 2 weeks ago.

2trusting

March 22, 2017

2trusting great job. Looking good for you. Congrats. B

March 22, 2017

Hey B, I might do that as my symptoms are not getting any better. Jump is sheduled for friday. so hopefully i can pull the trigger

March 23, 2017

I respect the psychological physical opinion although I can't seem to wrap my head around the difference between psychological and physical dependence when it comes to this. It's not like I feel anything when I take .25 so where the psychological part in this?

When I take my night dose of .25, it's not like I notices feeling any better or anything. I don't get excited at dose time either because I don't feel anything. I simply take it because I'm tapering. This is where I am confused with the psychological aspect.

Anyway, To answer another question, no I don't feel safe to jump with all that's on my plate right now, but I was reaching out to express my concern about holding until things settle.

If anyone has sold a house, you know what I'm talking about. Inspections, sudden knob and tube wiring findings, costing 10 grand to fix, appraisal, multable open houses, daily showings, not to mention the months of work getting the house in shape in the first place, and that's just for starters because actually moving is up next...So yea I don't know if this is stress related based on my external stresses, or if it taper related. Probly a lil of both.

I also super glad to hear folks say they didn't feel all that bad after the jump as well. I also wonder if what I'm experiencing now is basically what I will feel after the jump considering I'm only taking .25

Regardless I'm going to stay at .25 until the move is complete. I know there is a day coming real soon where the rewards of moving will be apparent. At that time I will be in a better place to jump.

Man this forum is a life saver. I can't thank you all enough

March 23, 2017

I respect the psychological physical opinion although I can't seem to wrap my head around the difference between psychological and physical dependence when it comes to this. It's not like I feel anything when I take .25 so where the psychological part in this?

When I take my night dose of .25, it's not like I notices feeling any better or anything. I don't get excited at dose time either because I don't feel anything. I simply take it because I'm tapering. This is where I am confused with the psychological aspect.

Anyway, To answer another question, no I don't feel safe to jump with all that's on my plate right now, but I was reaching out to express my concern about holding until things settle.

If anyone has sold a house, you know what I'm talking about. Inspections, sudden knob and tube wiring findings, costing 10 grand to fix, appraisal, multable open houses, daily showings, not to mention the months of work getting the house in shape in the first place, and that's just for starters because actually moving is up next...So yea I don't know if this is stress related based on my external stresses, or if it taper related. Probly a lil of both.

I also super glad to hear folks say they didn't feel all that bad after the jump as well. I also wonder if what I'm experiencing now is basically what I will feel after the jump considering I'm only taking .25

Regardless I'm going to stay at .25 until the move is complete. I know there is a day coming real soon where the rewards of moving will be apparent. At that time I will be in a better place to jump.

Man this forum is a life saver. I can't thank you all enough

I respect your decision to hold but if it is going to be a while you could slow your taper way down also and just cut say .01mg every 2 weeks or so? This way you might not get slammed and you may feel you are making progress towards your taper.

Whatever, it is your decision and I know people on this board will stand with you.

2trusting

March 23, 2017

I respect the psychological physical opinion although I can't seem to wrap my head around the difference between psychological and physical dependence when it comes to this. It's not like I feel anything when I take .25 so where the psychological part in this?

When I take my night dose of .25, it's not like I notices feeling any better or anything. I don't get excited at dose time either because I don't feel anything. I simply take it because I'm tapering. This is where I am confused with the psychological aspect.

Im still hoping someone could explain the physiological aspect with the info I mentioned above?

March 23, 2017

It's not like I feel anything when I take .25 so where the psychological part in this?

When I take my night dose of .25, it's not like I notices feeling any better or anything. I don't get excited at dose time either because I don't feel anything. I simply take it because I'm tapering. This is where I am confused with the psychological aspect.

There's the question, and the answer.

You continue to take it because you believe you need to.

But you really don't. At .25mg V, its way below a therapeutic dose, and also to low to maintain a dependency.

Just quit.

March 23, 2017

Doe, II see.

Builder what was your post jump like? I see you jumped @ .5. Can you describe sleep and anxiety levels right after your jump?

March 23, 2017

Doe, II see.

Builder what was your post jump like? I see you jumped @ .5. Can you describe sleep and anxiety levels right after your jump?

I had no WD sxs after I got below 3mg. After I jumped, I was completely "normal". No significant sleep issues, no tremors, healthy appetite, good energy levels, good outlook, etc.

No offense, but continuing to take .25mg is silly.

March 24, 2017

Doe, II see.

Builder what was your post jump like? I see you jumped @ .5. Can you describe sleep and anxiety levels right after your jump?

I had no WD sxs after I got below 3mg. After I jumped, I was completely "normal". No significant sleep issues, no tremors, healthy appetite, good energy levels, good outlook, etc.

No offense, but continuing to take .25mg is silly.

On the other hand taking .25mg is so tiny I do not see how it constitutes a problem either. If you think it s helping you go with it and ride it down to the last 1 microgram which is said to activate 1,500,000 gabaa receptors. I am all for staying on a tiny titration dose and not hassling the mental pressure of jumping and all that comes with it.

.25mg V is activating some 375,000,000 gabaA receptors.

The math is WAY more complex than just a ONE to ONE factor equation (Biological math makes Trigonometry and Calculus look 1000X more complex than a high school prom dance ) but just for fun let's go with it just this one time

When put in those terms it seems like a big dose.

If .25mg is so little that it can't help well, then it can't hurt either by the same token

Good luck John

Lisa

March 24, 2017

Doe, II see.

Builder what was your post jump like? I see you jumped @ .5. Can you describe sleep and anxiety levels right after your jump?

I had no WD sxs after I got below 3mg. After I jumped, I was completely "normal". No significant sleep issues, no tremors, healthy appetite, good energy levels, good outlook, etc.

No offense, but continuing to take .25mg is silly.

On the other hand taking .25mg is so tiny I do not see how it constitutes a problem either. If you think it s helping you go with it and ride it down to the last 1 microgram which is said to activate 1,500,000 gabaa receptors. I am all for staying on a tiny titration dose and not hassling the mental pressure of jumping and all that comes with it.

.25mg V is activating some 375,000,000 gabaA receptors.
The math is WAY more complex than just a ONE to ONE factor equation (Biological math makes Trigonometry and Calculus look 1000X more complex than a high school prom dance ) but just for fun let's go with it just this one time

When put in those terms it seems like a big dose.

If .25mg is so little that it can't help well, then it can't hurt either by the same token

Good luck John

Lisa

I agree with Birdman here 👍🏼. I've seen many people struggle, for whatever reason," in their tapers at non "therapeutic" levels. I'm planning on tapering to zero because my taper has been symptomatic and I'm not interested in added an unneeded shock to my system post jump. Whatever you decide, congrats on being nearly done with your taper. 👍🏼

March 24, 2017

Every body is different!

My dad's doctor could not believe he got relief from the tiny amount my dad took of another medicine, he said its fine to do so on this particular med, but he laughed that my dad would not even notice the difference. but both me and him can feel when he doesn't take that miniscule amount! lol He can skip a few days here and there, but once a week goes by, it is obvious. Cuz u go from that miniscule amount each day which adds to something that week, and the next week, zero.

Also the last jump can be the hardest, not saying that it will be hard for you but I don't see the problem with holding!

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