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Has anyone tried ketamine infusions?


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All,

 

A lot of what we feel is glutamate surges. If anyone has ever had a fake window a day or two after consuming alcohol, all that was was the alcohol's washing out your glutamate.

 

There are lots of articles out there about psychiatrists prescribing and successfully treating every thing from OCD, to general anxiety, to depression with a series of ketamine infusions.

 

As many of these symptoms plague me and many of us, I was wondering if anyone had every tried it.

 

I am currently looking into functional medicine and metabolic neurochemistry, but as I am not up to plan Z, I am always looking for the next plan (using the excel scheme this would be plan AA ;-) )

 

Be well and good luck,

 

Ramcon1

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There are quite a few discussions about ketamine on this board.  Search for ketamine and check me out
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Flicka,

 

For some reason, my search function on this website never works, but I was able to google search benzobuddies and ketamine.  A few threads came up.  One person did it recreationally and was reprimanded by the monitors.  Someone on that thread said that within 2 years it will be a standard medical treatment for depression an anxiety.  I would not call it standard, but it is available. 

 

For the record, that was what I was talking about.  Getting it done under a medical setting, not scoring some ket and going into the k-hole!

 

I did not find anything helpful.  If someone does, please let me know.  I am going to discuss this with bith my functional and pdocs soon.

 

Ramcon1

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Here you go, Ramcon.

 

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=171573.0 

 

If you narrow your search within the Protracted section, you'll find other references to ketamine as well.

 

 

A lot of what we feel is glutamate surges. If anyone has ever had a fake window a day or two after consuming alcohol, all that was was the alcohol's washing out your glutamate.

 

For the benefit of others reading, I think it's important that we don't state our own personal beliefs/opinions/theories/understanding/etc. as facts.  The above statement is pseudoscience babble and is certainly NOT a fact.

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abc,

 

First and foremost.  Thanks foir the link!  That is a lot of reading for me to do tonight!

 

Second, you and I are like Sheldon and Howard (I will give you whichever guy you prefer ;-).  I will state as absolute fact that alcohol washes out your glutamate. Some articles say it is an NMDA antagonist, others point to different chemistry, but glutamate is the alcoholics craving, and the reason drugs like acamprosate help some alcoholics.  When you drink, you wash away or at least block your glutamate, craving gone.  Side benefit, glutamate gone, you feel better.

 

Anecdotally, I remember at about the one year off mark, I was drinking too much.  I had a really bad day on a business trip, and that night I got plastered.  I woke the next day to a mild hangover, and a 100% window.  I had boosted my GABA, blocked my glutamate, and gave the best presentation of my life, in my second language of Spanish.  I made Nicaraguan national television.  I have seen a half dozen buddies post the same sort of thing.

 

Side deteriment, alcoholism is no better than benzo recovery so I am not encouraging anyone to go out and drink!  I was just saying that if there were a safer way to wash out glutamate, like maybe a controlled ketamine infusion that might be a good thing.

 

Side note, if you ever had a panic attack, you know that when it is over you actually feel better.  That is glutamate too.  The adrenaline from the attack sucks the glutamate out of your blood like a sponge, then it diffuses out of your nerves and you feel better.  I am also not encouraging anyone to induce panic attacks! Just that we need to find a better way to handle our glutamate.

 

For the record, I do my best not to throw stuff out there as fact that is just my opinion.  Nobody is perfect, so call me out if you doubt me, but I am as certain about the alcohol glutamate connection as I am that 2+2=4. 

 

Ramcon1

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abc,

 

I LOVE the emoji, but right now I am neither Howard nor Sheldon, so I do not get what you mean by it.

 

Can you give me a hint?

 

Ramcon1

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