Liquid Titrate. By % or by milliliters ?! Help

[[Me...]]

I'm new to this and very afraid and confused. I am on Klonapin and want to get off using slow milk titration with holds if needed. I see others on here who say they used milk titration but in their signature or titration history, they have odd decimal numbers or milligrams. I wanted to make a 1:1 solution of 2mg Klonapin in 200 ml milk and cut back no more than 2% per 7-14 days. I know this is stating out very slow but I have found I am extremely sensitive to tapering. So, with a 1:1 ratio solution, I would remove and discard 1ml (1%) each day and then consume the remainder of my milk. I would divide my " to be consumed" milk dose in half so I could take half in the morning and half in the evening since I currently dose my pills twice a day.

At the rate of reduction of let's say, 1% per week, starting on a Sunday, I would then pull off 2mls of Klonapin milk the second Sunday, discard, divide my remaining milk in half and consume one half in the morning and half in the evening. As long as I am not reducing by more than 5% every 2 weeks. So basically, I could continue my entire wean by 1 or 2% in this manner, every two weeks? Why do I then see people's signature histories of liquid titration with decimal points or mg? Please PM me your responses as I'm so new, I don't even know how to follow my own posts. I'm so scared and anxious. Please help and clarify.

With most heartfelt thanks,

Mellow

[[bu...]]

For clarification, 2mg + 200ml milk (1mg=100ml) is a 1:100 ratio, not 1:1.

 

The reason you see fractional number is almost everyone who uses liquid does a daily taper, not a cut&hold.

 

For example,

 

2% per week...

 

2mg X 2% = .04mg per week reduction

.04mg/7 days = .0057, round up to .006mg per day reduction

 

 

So to lower your dose by .006mg/day, you would reduce your milk by .6ml/day.

 

And being "scared and anxious" will make your taper more difficult. Relax, this really is NOT difficult.

[[Me...]]

Builder,

Would you be able to help me construct a low and slow taper schedule using the above 1:100 ratio?  I do not want to burden others but my discalculia and dyslexia are making this so difficult and I don't want to make an error that will cause me to have psychosis as happened in the hospital when they C/T me.  If you are not interested, I fully understand. If you are a little willing to get me started or at least help explain progression of the process, please PM me .

Most grateful for your time

Mellow

[[Sh...]]

I tapered from 20mg Diazapam. I started a liquid whole milk taper at about 4mg. I never used a schedule, but just tapered the same amount every night until my symptoms got bad and then I reduced the taper. For example, at 4mg of D/, I  took 3mg in pill form, I suspended 1mg of D/Z in 100 ml of whole milk and used a syringe to eliminate 3.5ml every night for 2 or 3weeks, then I reduced the taper to 3ml. I was very easy to keep track and worked well for me.

[[bu...]]

Builder,

Would you be able to help me construct a low and slow taper schedule using the above 1:100 ratio?  I do not want to burden others but my discalculia and dyslexia are making this so difficult and I don't want to make an error that will cause me to have psychosis as happened in the hospital when they C/T me.  If you are not interested, I fully understand. If you are a little willing to get me started or at least help explain progression of the process, please PM me .

Most grateful for your time

Mellow

 

Well, I really kinda showed you the process already, but here it is again:

 

1) Choose a percentage cut rate and time frame.  Ex.  2% per week cut

 

2)  Multiply the %age by your dose.  Ex:  2mg X 2%= .04mg/week cut

 

3)  Divide the mg cut by the days.  (Ex .04mg/7 days = .0057  round up to .006mg/day cut. 

 

If your liquid is 1mg=100ml, then a .006mg cut will be .6ml day cut.(Just move the decimal 2 places to the right.)

So you need to lower your dose by .6ml each day.

[[Me...]]

Thank you Builder. I think I am understanding. I do have a 1ml and a 10 ml syringe which should be very helpful. So, as I decide what my percentage increase will be each week, say 3% my 4th week, I use the same equation, just plug in my new numbers to get my amount of K milk to waste, Keeping my 1mg to 100ml ratio of K milk to start.

[[bu...]]

So, as I decide what my percentage increase will be each week, say 3% my 4th week, I use the same equation, just plug in my new numbers to get my amount of K milk to waste, Keeping my 1mg to 100ml ratio of K milk to start.

 

:thumbsup:

[[Me...]]

Builder,

Would you be able to help me construct a low and slow taper schedule using the above 1:100 ratio?  I do not want to burden others but my discalculia and dyslexia are making this so difficult and I don't want to make an error that will cause me to have psychosis as happened in the hospital when they C/T me.  If you are not interested, I fully understand. If you are a little willing to get me started or at least help explain progression of the process, please PM me .

Most grateful for your time

Mellow

 

Well, I really kinda showed you the process already, but here it is again:

 

1) Choose a percentage cut rate and time frame.  Ex.  2% per week cut

 

2)  Multiply the %age by your dose.  Ex:  2mg X 2%= .04mg/week cut

 

3)  Divide the mg cut by the days.  (Ex .04mg/7 days = .0057  round up to .006mg/day cut. 

 

If your liquid is 1mg=100ml, then a .006mg cut will be .6ml day cut.(Just move the decimal 2 places to the right.)

So you need to lower your dose by .6ml each day.

 

Builder,

Could you please show me this if my plan is a 1% cut per week and my Milk mixture is 2mg Klonapin in 200ml of milk ?

Thank you so much for your tolerence. I means allot.

Mellowplease

[[bu...]]

Builder,

Would you be able to help me construct a low and slow taper schedule using the above 1:100 ratio?  I do not want to burden others but my discalculia and dyslexia are making this so difficult and I don't want to make an error that will cause me to have psychosis as happened in the hospital when they C/T me.  If you are not interested, I fully understand. If you are a little willing to get me started or at least help explain progression of the process, please PM me .

Most grateful for your time

Mellow

 

Well, I really kinda showed you the process already, but here it is again:

 

1) Choose a percentage cut rate and time frame.  Ex.  2% per week cut

 

2)  Multiply the %age by your dose.  Ex:  2mg X 2%= .04mg/week cut

 

3)  Divide the mg cut by the days.  (Ex .04mg/7 days = .0057  round up to .006mg/day cut. 

 

If your liquid is 1mg=100ml, then a .006mg cut will be .6ml day cut.(Just move the decimal 2 places to the right.)

So you need to lower your dose by .6ml each day.

 

Builder,

Could you please show me this if my plan is a 1% cut per week and my Milk mixture is 2mg Klonapin in 200ml of milk ?

Thank you so much for your tolerence. I means allot.

Mellowplease

 

1) Choose a percentage cut rate and time frame.  Ex.  1% per week cut

 

2)  Multiply the %age by your dose.  Ex:  2mg X 1%= .02mg/week cut

 

3)  Divide the mg cut by the days.  (Ex .02mg/7 days = .0023  round up to .003mg/day cut.

 

If your liquid is 1mg=100ml, then a .003mg cut will be .3ml day cut.(Just move the decimal 2 places to the right.)

 

So you need to lower your dose by .3ml each day.

 

IMO, 1% per week is silly slow.  But...whatever works.