Updose or keep suffering?

[[Da...]]

I'm holding at this point but have yet to see any improvements in my symptoms, if anything I feel worse. Should I updose .125mg to stabilize? I'm so sick, not sleeping, very anxious and positive that I will never get better. Please help.

[[tw...]]

Hi, Dad - it sounds like me you tried to go too fast. (I sure did and I finally threw in the towel after 6 weeks off and reinstated.) I'm VERY disappointed, and I feel like I was on my way to getting better, but after getting reassurance about my heart being okay, I started having breathing issues that just freaked me out and was 100% obsessed with health anxiety and convinced I was dying and I just couldn't take it anymore. I was probably pretty close too. Again, I went WAY too fast - you can see below in my taper. And had kind of delayed symptoms after I jumped.

 

Do you have to updose all the way up to 1.25? Maybe just a slight updose? I'll let others who have been more successful than I have weigh in.

 

Best of luck to you. This is one hellish ride, isn't it?

[[tw...]]

OH! And another thought! I see that you last cut on 1/17, right? Please know that during my taper, i would not get symptoms until day 10 and then I would usually stablize by day 14 or 15!

 

So - if  you CAN give it more time to stabilize before you updose, that might be the best idea. Klonopin takes WAY longer (in my experience) to show symptoms with each cut than a shorter acting benzo.

 

On second thought, I think you should hold longer and see. Just my 2 cents.

[[Da...]]

Do you think it's taking me a bit to stabilize because of all the cuts I did back to back? I feel like my symptoms kick in around day 4/5 and wouldnsyart to stabilize around day 10. But this insomnia and increased symptoms is making me feel so friggen bad. I can't stop crying and the constant worry is freaking me out.

[[Da...]]

I was thinking to updose to .875 not 1.25....

[[bu...]]

"Updose or keep suffering?"

 

It would seem to me that the answer is so obvious its actually contained in the question.

 

 

Choosing to suffer goes against every human instinct.

[[Da...]]

But will updosing even help? Or am I going to throw more gas in the fire so to speak?

[[bu...]]

But will updosing even help? Or am I going to throw more gas in the fire so to speak?

 

As I told you previously, it certainly won't do any harm.  The worst that can happen is it won't help, but...it probably will.

 

Over the whole course of my taper, including the C&H portion not shown in my siggy, I updosed several time.  Each time I 1) got better, and 2) was able to continue my taper.

[[be...]]

If you updose with  what if it doesn't help in all likelihood it won't. You're setting yourself up for it not to work. Why not just say, ok I've cut too much too fast time to get back up at a higher dose, end the suffering, get stable and start again from there. You might feel very well and be able to stabilize. If not you can updose until you are stable. Sometimes it's necessary. And it's true there's no harm in trying but to me anticipate the best outcome. Try not to sabotage the updose because many find up dosing is exactly what they need. There's no need to keep suffering. Find the right dose and simply restart when you're ready but slower the next time. Up dosing is probably exactly what you need. Doesn't matter by how much. It's not a failure. Youre simply doing what you need to do right now. You're not alone.  B

[[Da...]]

If I updose today, any ideas on when that would start to help? Would it be pretty immediate or take some time?

[[bb...]]

Dad, I have been watching your posts and I am so sorry you are suffering so much. If you'll see in my sig, when I started K this time, I screwed around with my doses for three months b/c I didn't like the way it made me feel this time. I am sad and depressed. This is the 3rd time on K for me and it is not treating me very well. So, after 3 anxiety ridden months, I decided I couldn't take it anymore. I really updosed to get that anxiety off of me. I went to .5 and and .75 pm. I stayed there for a month. Now, I really beat myself up about it. But enough was enough.

 

Now.... I have to reduce from that large amount and I get anxiety for a few days after a cut, but I fades as the days pass--- but I had to do something. You need some relief. I hope that you come up with a way to get that relief. I am taking it slow coming off this amount - 8% every 14 days which seems like forever, but I'll get there and you will too. Hugs to you.

[[bu...]]

If I updose today, any ideas on when that would start to help? Would it be pretty immediate or take some time?

 

Based on it's half life, a dose change with K will probably be effective in 4-5 days.

[[Da...]]

Hmmm with that info idk if I should try to hold off then.... maybe by the time i felt the benefits of the updose, I would be leveling out some.

[[bu...]]

Hmmm with that info idk if I should try to hold off then.... maybe by the time i felt the benefits of the updose, I would be leveling out some.

 

...but then, maybe not.

 

I really suspect your sxs are not as severe as some of mine were.  Each time I updosed, I would simply say to myself, "This is unbearable, and I need to try to fix it."  Like I said above, I just don't understand choosing to suffer.

 

But, we all need to do our taper how it works for us.

[[be...]]

Suit yourself dad. You had lots of good suggestions but in the end it's really important you make your own choices. Whatever you can live with. My pain might be extreme suffering to someone else. Or the opposite. In the end assess your own needs and go from there. Personally if I felt I was suffering unnecessarily to the point I wasn't functioning I'd do something to change it. We all have different thresholds regarding pain etc. I've had some very rough patches but got through them just fine. But I have altered my plan a few times. But if I'm not functioning that's a problem. A big one for not just me but everyone around me. So then I realize if I'm my own problem that the only way to fix myself is to be part of the solution. Works for me. B

[[go...]]

I have kept a log of my symptoms...sometimes I suffer days 4-6, sometimes day 10, this time day 13. If I go out as far as 13, I am miserable the entire way. It is quite soon to decide you won't stabilize. But, we are all different with different tolerances. Only you know what you're feeling. I do take mid dose rescue doses, which do help. Unfortunately, I  now have to taper down from them too. It's a trade off. If you're that miserable and cannot stand another day, updose and forgive yourself. Then taper much more slowly.

[[be...]]

"Updose or keep suffering?"

 

It would seem to me that the answer is so obvious its actually contained in the question.

 

 

Choosing to suffer goes against every human instinct.

 

:thumbsup:

[[Da...]]

I updosed my evening dose. Fingers crossed for some relief!

[[be...]]

Hopefully it works but absolutely no harm in trying. B

[[be...]]

Hopefully it works but absolutely no harm in trying. B

 

good luck to you!

[[Tw...]]

Having played the Klonopin updose game before don't be surprised if you need more than .125 to stabilize coming down as fast as you have off that high of a dose. Hope you can find some peace soon. Don't beat yourself up, this level of suffering is almost indescribable.

[[bu...]]

Hopefully it works but absolutely no harm in trying. B

 

:thumbsup:

[[lo...]]

during my K taper, I had 2 moments when I knew I cut too much. symptoms were hard. updosed very quick. essentially I went down from 1mg to 0.75mg in 1 cut. too hard. went back on 1mg, waited couple days, and cut again to 0.875 - and was fine.

2nd time around, went down too quick down to 0.25 from 0.5. too rough. went up to 0.375 and continued slower. all worked and I was well.

 

[[bu...]]

during my K taper, I had 2 moments when I knew I cut too much. symptoms were hard. updosed very quick. essentially I went down from 1mg to 0.75mg in 1 cut. too hard. went back on 1mg, waited couple days, and cut again to 0.875 - and was fine.

2nd time around, went down too quick down to 0.25 from 0.5. too rough. went up to 0.375 and continued slower. all worked and I was well.

 

I was on V, so my numbers were different, but that mirrors my experience as well.  Updosed, recovered, re-started at a slower rate.

[[Da...]]

Thanks for all your help. I'm just scared as hell- can you tell? I want to live through this....