What adjunct meds for pain, have helped you in withdrawal?

[[Su...]]

I am in a lot of pain. It is usually at night ( not always, but night seems to be worse) and it starts after i dose. I'm wondering if my body is rejecting the meds. I'm was in withdrawal as I started my taper, unfortunately. Any help would be appreciated.

[[be...]]

Gabapentin helps me but only muscle pains. Fortunately now I take it only as needed. B

[[ti...]]

Im already on percocet so there is nothing more for me. Gabapentin helps a little but lots of side effects

[[Su...]]

Hi B, I was just thinking about you. I hope your day is going better than mine.

[[Su...]]

Thanks tinwi, Is percocet an opiate?

[[Su...]]

Barb, how bad did your pain get? Also, what do you think about a crossover to valium?. There are days I think about it because I'm suffering so much.

[[ti...]]

Yes it is

[[Tw...]]

Im already on percocet so there is nothing more for me. Gabapentin helps a little but lots of side effects

 

Probably would say your showing tolerance to opiates which happens pretty quickly and would then either be to take more or taper off. I broke 9 bones in my face last January and took them for a month and I'm that time frame I noticed how they stop working as well after a pretty short time. Maybe try coming off and you'll feel better eventually?

[[ti...]]

No they still work, I have been on them for years. And believe me without them I wouldnt even get out of bed. Unlike you my pain is never going away. I developed it when my husband had his stroke. Whatever the original cause was never taken care if as I didnt have the time. Its pretty much centraluzed now

I can only hope sonething like a spinal cord stimulator will help

[[Ca...]]

Again how different we all are...

Some can get releif for many many years without updosing, i was told...

And some (Me) get to 470mg/d qid, in 3 yrs... (2 of those in hospital)...  and i was 90% tolerant...

Made for one hell of a taper... left protracted still... -makes tapering the valium that bit more complicated than it could have been...

 

Umm... so what i wanted to say was, IF U decide to taper the opiates... pls take it slow...

 

[[ti...]]

Would love to updose.  Not possible because we now have a law enforcement agency in the US, the DEA, in charge of our medical care.  It really is a police state.  I would say ok if they really were concerned about our health but sadly that isn't the case.  They would ct a person from anything in a heartbeat

Plus there is the risk of being tolerant to high doses and not getting relief if I need to be hospitalized with morphine.

I wish there were some good alternatives.  The spinal cord stimulator really scares me.  I know there are therapies not covered by insurance such as stem cell, maybe they will become available to all at some point.  I can only hope

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  I also am chronic pain patient and the DEA has gotten in the way of our meds now.  So true that they will yank you off in a minute.  I am always so frightened when I go to Dr. now.  They are particularly looking at benzos with opiates since all these famous people are dying of overdoses.  They are trying to push the spinal stimulator on me also, I won't have it.  I have a friend who had it and it got infected etc. etc. and had to come out.  I just had another surgery last year and it is failing again.  Now they won't give me any more pain relief either so I just suffer with it all.  Anyway, I would stick with OTC meds if at all possible.  I wish I never got on this train of meds but Drs. back then put you on and kept you on, told you you need it etc. etc. just like the benzos.  Now its all so different.  Hope you can find some relief.  I don't even know if its possible for me to taper the pain med and muscle relaxer.  I have been on them for over 20 yrs.  Can't go back in time but oh how I wish I could.

[[ti...]]

I cant take NSAIDS because of acid refux, which is severe, and blood thinner.

I tried taking baby aspirin once and I could not get any relief from heartburn even with 80mg of nexium per day

[[be...]]

Summer I'm not a Valium fan because unfortunately it made things much more difficult for me but others can and will attest to the fact that it was greAt for them. For me it's too sedating and downright depressing but I'm better as I get lower. That's one of the reasons I dose 4X a day. If you're really suffering the gabapentin helped me a lot. At first I was extremely drowsy from it though but that wore off pretty rapidly but I had extremely bad pain and cramps. Muscle pain that was unbelievable. But the thing is I still get it sometimes but I don't immediately run to take some gabapentin. Sometimes I just know these sxs are Valium withdrawal and we can find other remedies. Heating pads, stretching, a hot Epsom bath and more. So now I take the gabapentin for example if my grandkids are coming or something like that if I need it. Other than that I let the pain subside in time (which it does usually). If not then I take the gabapentin but I don't have side effects. You'll have to make sure your dose is high enough (usually 200 or three hundred mg) or it might not work. And lol I wouldn't plan on doing much until you adjust to them just in case. So personally I'd not take Valium again but remember we are all very different.

As far as Percocet I was on morphine for over two weeks when I was in the hospital for broken bones. I asked them to take the drip out when I realized why I was so loopy. But then they gave me Percocet for I think a few months but my physiotherapist asked me to take regular Tylenol before he came because I was not exactly balancing too well. I noticed the regular XS Tylenol worked just fine. I had no idea I should taper Percocet so I just up and quit it. So I had no expectations of feeling ill over it. So if I did it was so minor I don't remember. Had someone been aghast over it I'm sure I'd have been miserable but I didn't know I should feel sick so think that's why I didn't. Odd. And like the US getting Percocet now is extremely difficult. Major crackdown over opiates. I did take a medicine called tramodol (I think) after breaking my hip. Was told not an opiate and not addictive. It was as bad as benzos to get off off. Absolutely dreadful and the side effects a nightmare. It's now classified as a controlled substance i think but crap never again would I take that. Absolutely never. B

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  I also was given Tramadol back when it first came out.  I immediately felt weird, off etc and anxious.  I refused it after that and also was told it wasn't a narcotic.  Now it is and has the added effect of the benzolike thing to it.  I too wish I never crossed to Valium as all my problems started when I tapered it.  Its funny but I was fine on it when I crossed and for months but as soon as I got to 15 mg from 20 all heck broke loose.  Now I am in horrible burning pain and numerous other things.  Don't know if its all w/d from the valium taper or if its the other meds.  The soma I take wasn't scheduled either when Dr. put me on it, now it is.  It also affects gaba.  I have a mess on my hands now and tried the gabapentin but it made my burning worse so I stopped it after 5 days.  It might be true for some that we just have to taper off and grin and bear it but right now I am holding and seeing if I can get a little relief before I start again.  Hope you find something to help pain. 

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Tinwi, dont worry about needing morphine in hospital... they have other even betterer stuff if needed, like ketamine... and can be used in conjunction with opioids..

 

Tramadol is a synthetic opiate, with slightly different receptor adherence, many people have a range of problems with it... primary being nausia, but is cheap for the hospitals, so they push it first where possible...

 

Soon pretty well all scripted opiates will have the antagonist blocker in them so one cant get high (in theory) but it should stop o/d deaths... -these shouldnt be so hard to get from your Drs... our hospitals use them now... but a very slow c/o is needed if on normal opiates, or they can throw you into intense w/d... particularly if in tolerence... that was why i got my first ever valium, 10mg, and a very quick ambulance trip....

 

Taking a benzo will significantly reduce any w/d if stopping an opiate, and while dependancy can occur in only weeks, -it is more common to be a 2-3 months type thing, and asides some mild sx, much more a mental thing than say a typical benzo w/d, if used correctly and relatively short term (6mths)..

 

-just my thoughts...