what is tolerance withdrawal?

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What exactly is tolerance withdrawal? I was wondering if someone has it, would it be better to continue on and finish the taper instead of doing a hold? I mean if it's making you suffer just being on it... I'll be honest here. I'm fishing for any excuse to rush through my taper. I want to get this shit out of my system so I can start too heal. It will be two years April/May 2015 since I started sailing on this misery ship. As you can probably tell, yesterday's gabbies have worn off.

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Saw your signature.  I started 2yrs ago (1/15/15) at 8mgs Xanax.  We've both been at this for a long time. 

 

From what I understand tolerance withdrawal is not very common.  Most who think they have it just have plain old withdrawal.  What are you dealing with?

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I don't think tolerance withdrawal is exactly the right way to put it. If you started your taper already tolerant of the drug (I sure did) then to me the taper is yes simply withdrawal. others might chime in. Not positive but think just withdrawal as you taper down. B

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What exactly is tolerance withdrawal? I was wondering if someone has it, would it be better to continue on and finish the taper instead of doing a hold? I mean if it's making you suffer just being on it... I'll be honest here. I'm fishing for any excuse to rush through my taper. I want to get this shit out of my system so I can start too heal. It will be two years April/May 2015 since I started sailing on this misery ship. As you can probably tell, yesterday's gabbies have worn off.

 

You start to heal as soon as you make the first reduction.  Tapering takes as long as it takes.  Tapering too fast because you are anxious to be off usually brings about bad outcomes.

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To be honest, for me, the whole time I was tapering from July to January it basically felt like I was in withdrawal the whole time. I regret not trying to just jump off sooner. Do whatever you feel you can take. You got this!

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I always like to say go for it too but caution. You only got this until ya don't. Listen to your body. Usually that helps me the most. Also listening to my gut. Just get the odd feeling of "slow down" so I listen. B

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OK. About one year ago I was on 6MGs daily of Klonopin. Dropped in fourteen days to nothing and on the fifteenth day I was bumped up to 3MGs daily. Tapered down to .375 in about 6 1/2 months and finished that amount c/t. Crashed something awful. Went back to .75MGs daily for a while. Tinnitus got so bad I went into the hospital. Was put on 6MGs Ativan daily for about two weeks. Ended back in the hospital when that ran out. My insurance co-pays have been murder. Anyhow. Ended back on .75MGs Klonopin. Dropped down to .625MGs on 1/11/17. In four more days I'm going to drop either .125MGs or .063MGs... And 400MGs Gabapentin every four days.

 

If I had only not gone cold turkey off the .375MGs I may have been almost done by now... Knowing I should only go 10% every ten days or more drives me up a wall. That's just how I am I guess. I remember being in Walgreens after the .375 drop feeling like I was going to die. I was in the hospital three times last year. $750.00 - $750.00 - $550.00. I'm on social security. This is getting expensive.

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Tolerance withdrawal right here *Luke raises his hand*

 

I was put on diazepam bout 5 years ago. i quit drinking a year after that (drank pretty heavily) and i started going to the gym. so i made some fairly significant life changes while on diazepam the whole time.

 

in the beginning of 2015, i started getting really bad anxiety attacks after or during weightlifting. the adrenaline from it would stick with me hours later, even the next day. i was woozy and weird feeling long after lifting. it got bad enough where i stopped going to the gym.

 

i spiraled downward thereafter. started getting bad "spells" where my legs were weak and i was almost blacking out, accompanied by a lot of classic anxiety symptoms.

 

long story short - saw every dr known to man, had every test imaginable - ekg, mri's, blood tests, stress tests, etc etc etc... all came up *knocks on wood* healthy.

 

symptoms continued for the better part of a year, well into 2016. i was frightened and frustrated entire time. using energy sapped me, raised my anxiety level, i even told my mother a hundred times i was fatigued and my legs felt like jelly. i thought i was coining phrases that turned out everyone here has used for years lol.

 

still having no idea and no other alternative, i decided that i wanted to get off the diazepam because it was the only thing left in the equation. right at that time i stumbled onto benzo buddies and it was like the light bulb went on.

 

i said omg, "ive been in withdrawal all this time." it never occurred to me that could happen while you were still on the drug. its been a NIGHTMARE. ive said in a number of posts, its been like a 14 month long bad acid trip. ive NEVER felt right since late 2015. 24/7 im "off kilter" to varying degrees.

 

i started tapering september 2nd 2016, and while ive experienced the ups and downs of the cuts like all of us, nothing has been as bad as the worst spells i had long before my taper.

 

im probably tapering alil quciker now than is recommended. i wouldnt personally recommend that to anyone, but for me, my gut instinct and my mind and body are screaming to get the hell off this stuff. ive had enough, and so far, again, the tapering hasnt really been any worse than being in tolerance. At 7.5mg now i feel similarly to when i was at 20, ups and downs but id say slightly more tolerable now. a little better.

 

so forth i go to get this the hell out of my system. im forging ahead to get to 5mg, then ill see how i feel from there. i know it gets tougher for most, and we'll see where im at, but ive been in living hell for 14 months, most of which before i ever even knew why. i havent yet had a cut hit me as bad as the worst spell i had before any tapering, so im at a point of whtvr, bring it, its already been hell.

 

20 down to 15mg very fast and wasnt too bad.

 

the worst so far was 15 down to 10, had a couple very rough patches, but again, meh, its all the same hell really to varying degress. that was the toughest patch of tapering thus far,

 

so far, 10 down to 7.5 ive barely felt a difference, the usual ebb and flow of benzo withdrawal.

 

we'll see for 7.5 down to 5. (and no im not going directly from those numbers to the next, i just mean the whole phase of cutting to those levels)

 

ive had enough of this crap.

 

my best wishes and good vibes to ALL of you, im so sorry anyone is going through this. its a singular hell.

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13 mg to 12 my most difficult. Feeling better from there on down. I wish none of us had to go through any of this. It's not very pleasant to say the least. But we'll all get there. B

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13 mg to 12 my most difficult. Feeling better from there on down. I wish none of us had to go through any of this. It's not very pleasant to say the least. But we'll all get there. B

I agree with you Barb. I had more panic attacks and severe sxs when I cut from higher doses. I have not had any panic attacks since September-16 after my relapse. But I feel I need to slow down with my cuts now. I used to cut 1,25 mg. Way to much after I hit 10 mg. Last was .75 mg and even this feels to much and then I hold 5 weeks between this cut and the one before. I had to get stable. Today it is 12 days since my last cut and today my bad dizziness stopped. I feel good but I am very very tired. Sleep a lot. And I just enjoy doing that. I need all sleep I can get. My next cuts will be with liquid. 1 mg/6 weeks...Hope it will work fine 😊

All the best from Sweden / Sun ☉. Thank u so much for your post yesterday Barb 

+ 2 degress today and the snow is soon gone (Again)

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Thanks sundance. Sleeping is good if you can. Lol got ya beat. Been hitting plus 10 but unfortunately high winds and the melting snow freezes at night. I'm really sleepy today too so maybe going to not cut till it passes. No panic attacks though. Just the incessant burning. Think I'm tired from lack of sunshine and we are now iced in. No idea when we'll get south and this hard on my taper. I like to know what's what or I'm forever having anticipatory anxiety which I find worse than generalized anxiety. But you sound better. Good for you. Sweet dreams. One day this will be a distant memory for all of us. I'm still sticking to .5 cuts though because they aren't huge. Hoping it keeps going well. Ride out the bad. Enjoy the good. B