Reinstate Klonopin - is it too late?

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I know this sounds more than a little ignorant, but I inadvertently went C/T off 1 mg Klonopin by simply letting my rx run out, not realizing that I was addicted.  I've read that reinstating can be ineffective or backfire after a certain period of time, but also know that I run the risk of protracted and more severe symptoms if I go cold turkey.  Is it too late for me to reinstate?  Thank you for any advice or support. 

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No....

 

I would and slowly taper..

[[Da...]]

I quit cold turkey and it has been my worst nightmare come true. If you can taper I think you should do it. Heather Ashton gives tapering schedules in here study so look that up online to understand how to do it. You doctor maybe also be able to help you put a schedule together.

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I agree with the other posters please taper if you can....

[[Tr...]]

I'd say you're better off tapering, especially since I saw you recently tapered off an SSRI. Since you're 2 weeks out you may be able to start at a dosage lower than 1mg, but whatever makes you comfortable.

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You are correct. Reinstatements can backfire because of something called "kindling". "Kindling" is when each subsequent withdrawal is worse than the previous one.  Tolerance can also be reached quickly.  They are typically only done when symptoms are debilitating or life threatening.  When done they are best done within 14 days of stopping. Anything past that is really a crap shoot if the next time will be better, even with a slow gradual taper.  Right now you may still be in the acute phase of withdrawal. This is when symptoms are their very worst. The acute phase on average lasts 4 to 6 weeks, and sometimes shorter. Some noticeable relief is felt after.  If it was me, I would not reinstate this far out.

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You are correct. Reinstatements can backfire because of something called "kindling". "Kindling" is when each subsequent withdrawal is worse than the previous one.  Tolerance can also be reached quickly.  They are typically only done when symptoms are debilitating or life threatening.  When done they are best done within 14 days of stopping. Anything past that is really a crap shoot if the next time will be better, even with a slow gradual taper.  Right now you may still be in the acute phase of withdrawal. This is when symptoms are their very worst. The acute phase on average lasts 4 to 6 weeks, and sometimes shorter. Some noticeable relief is felt after.  If it was me, I would not reinstate this far out.

 

benzos-R-cruel...i have a question about the acute phase, my symptoms got really bad around the 3rd month mark and currently am experiencing my first window at just under 5 months. so basically weeks 9-18 brought about the most severe symptoms, with the exception of the shaking (from about the second week to month three the shaking was pretty bad and constant. would have been much much worse without the aid of cbd oil). i know that each individual experience is different, and benzo w/d is non-linear...so my question would be is the acute phase just as random in course as the entire process? because like i said things really got started in the third month. and also how many days do you need to c/t from benzos to have the kindling effect? i quit cold turkey five times prior but it was in concert with opiates and i always reinstated both because i didnt see any improvement after 7-10 days. it wasnt until i further researched the benzo that i realized it was the reason i wasnt seeing any improvements. that is when i c/t the last time approx 5 months ago with the knowledge that i cant expect improvement for months or years. if i had known about benzo withdrawal i never would have reinstated once.

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You are correct. Reinstatements can backfire because of something called "kindling". "Kindling" is when each subsequent withdrawal is worse than the previous one.  Tolerance can also be reached quickly.  They are typically only done when symptoms are debilitating or life threatening.  When done they are best done within 14 days of stopping. Anything past that is really a crap shoot if the next time will be better, even with a slow gradual taper.  Right now you may still be in the acute phase of withdrawal. This is when symptoms are their very worst. The acute phase on average lasts 4 to 6 weeks, and sometimes shorter. Some noticeable relief is felt after.  If it was me, I would not reinstate this far out.

 

benzos-R-cruel...i have a question about the acute phase, my symptoms got really bad around the 3rd month mark and currently am experiencing my first window at just under 5 months. so basically weeks 9-18 brought about the most severe symptoms, with the exception of the shaking (from about the second week to month three the shaking was pretty bad and constant. would have been much much worse without the aid of cbd oil). i know that each individual experience is different, and benzo w/d is non-linear...so my question would be is the acute phase just as random in course as the entire process? because like i said things really got started in the third month. and also how many days do you need to c/t from benzos to have the kindling effect? i quit cold turkey five times prior but it was in concert with opiates and i always reinstated both because i didnt see any improvement after 7-10 days. it wasnt until i further researched the benzo that i realized it was the reason i wasnt seeing any improvements. that is when i c/t the last time approx 5 months ago with the knowledge that i cant expect improvement for months or years. if i had known about benzo withdrawal i never would have reinstated once.

 

Everyone is unique in the healing process.  There really are not two withdrawals alike. I think that is just one of the many things that can make this whole process so difficult.  Not everyone who reinstates will have a more difficult withdrawal the next time,  but it can happen.  The majority of people can get off benzodiazepines with little to no problems their first time around. However, when it come to second and third withdrawals and beyond that we start to see some have a much more difficult time.  From my own observation here over the years I see far more members regret reinstatements than those who don't.  However, we do have some members who have done it successfully. "Kindling" does not mean you will not heal.  It can just be a rougher ride to get there.

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thanks...i was assuming it was simply more sever than permanent

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Thank you, everyone, for the input.  BenzosRCruel, I reached that conclusion, and decided not to reinstate. I think I'm through the very worst of the acute phase, although things are still pretty dreadful right now.  I've realized that I'm grateful for the physical symptoms, because they're a definite reminder that I'm still in wd - otherwise, I think the intensity of anxiety and depression would have me convinced I'm just losing my mind.    I'm also very grateful to have found this site - you guys are literally a lifesaver. 

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Thank you, everyone, for the input.  BenzosRCruel, I reached that conclusion, and decided not to reinstate. I think I'm through the very worst of the acute phase, although things are still pretty dreadful right now.  I've realized that I'm grateful for the physical symptoms, because they're a definite reminder that I'm still in wd - otherwise, I think the intensity of anxiety and depression would have me convinced I'm just losing my mind.    I'm also very grateful to have found this site - you guys are literally a lifesaver.

 

That is good news. Now that you have made it through the worst of the acute phase you can make it through anything! Things should continue to improve.  I am glad you found us as well.

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Yay!!  Thanks.  I'm feeling very crappy right now... have been weepy all day and anxious, but I know you're right!  I know I can do this.  Thank you. 

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Yay!!  Thanks.  I'm feeling very crappy right now... have been weepy all day and anxious, but I know you're right!  I know I can do this.  Thank you.

 

That is all normal. You've got this! 

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If you are not flipping out, stay off.

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Was on 4 mg clonazepam went Ierelightto 2 mgs. Feeling aa lotof anxiety It has been 3 weeks at 2 mg. I Want to reinstate vs Ito 4 mg. Is it too late 

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Kathy,

You might not get any responses here since this is an old thread on the cold turkey board.  You might want to post your question and start a new thread on the tapering board. 

 

My thought is that if you're still at 2 mg, you really haven't cold turkeyed, and there's no danger of kindling.  You might want to talk to your doctor about increasing your dose enough to stabilize a bit, and then ask for help planning a very slow taper.  Good luck to you.

 

CH