Please help no sleep 6 days NONE!! Please help

[[Re...]]

I am so afraid i am going to die from insomnia. I have not slept 1 hour in 6 days. I had no sleep problems first 5 months of WD. I get in bed i can relax very well almost asleep and bam my heart sends some kind of surge. I calm myself back down almost alseep and same thing again. I tried melatonin it did nit help. What do I do?! My CNS is so sensetive scared to take anything I even get surges and extreme panic from advil. Please advice so worried my body is going to shut down from no.sleep

[[Si...]]

I'm so sorry! I wish I had some advice to give you.

[[An...]]

I have been advised that it is impossible to die from no sleep, although you may wish you were dead, ha, just a joke. I had this issue the first 5 months or so and still have awful sleep patterns after 7 months, but not as bad. I also had heart palpitations and my doctor gave me a blood pressure med to calm it down. Worked well with no side effects. It stopped that awful racing heart feeling and allowed me to sleep better. Worth a try since it is not an addictive med and pretty harmless. It is used for anxiety in many people, you don't have to have high blood pressure.

[[jr...]]

I am so afraid i am going to die from insomnia. I have not slept 1 hour in 6 days. I had no sleep problems first 5 months of WD. I get in bed i can relax very well almost asleep and bam my heart sends some kind of surge. I calm myself back down almost alseep and same thing again. I tried melatonin it did nit help. What do I do?! My CNS is so sensetive scared to take anything I even get surges and extreme panic from advil. Please advice so worried my body is going to shut down from no.sleep

 

 

Mirtazipine was a life saver for me and sleep. During my entire taper , I slept 8-10 hours a night.

[[El...]]

I had exactly that, whenever I nearly fell asleep, bammm.... it was so awful, I used atarax for one night, I didn't sleep perfect but I slept better the day after, I think I used atarax tree times during my bad insomnia wave... abpnd the I started to listen to meditation Hypnos sleep videos from YouTube, and some helped, it takes your mind away to listen to something.

My sleep is really bad again now, but I'm partly in a wave now again.

But I don't pay it so much attention, I kinda think ok, if I sleep I'll sleep, I use the meditation things on and of, also during the day to reduce my everyday benzo anxiety and stress.

I wish u luck and no one has as far as I know died from insomnia. Mine lasted more than two weeks when I finally was so fed up and I took 1/4 atarax.

B

Hugs

[[pu...]]

Over a year ago I was 100% convinced I was going to die from insomnia but I am still alive!

 

I went 6 days at least. You're going to be ok.

 

 

Lay in the child pose, the yoga pose. And breath. Just focus on your breathing. in and out very slowly.

 

https://images.cdn-outlet.com/yo-userfiles/image/Yoga_ChildsPose_300x350.jpg

[[Ma...]]

I had exactly that, whenever I nearly fell asleep, bammm.... it was so awful, I used atarax for one night, I didn't sleep perfect but I slept better the day after, I think I used atarax tree times during my bad insomnia wave... abpnd the I started to listen to meditation Hypnos sleep videos from YouTube, and some helped, it takes your mind away to listen to something.

My sleep is really bad again now, but I'm partly in a wave now again.

But I don't pay it so much attention, I kinda think ok, if I sleep I'll sleep, I use the meditation things on and of, also during the day to reduce my everyday benzo anxiety and stress.

I wish u luck and no one has as far as I know died from insomnia. Mine lasted more than two weeks when I finally was so fed up and I took 1/4 atarax.

B

Hugs

 

Before WD I used to have nights of nio sleep.8 nights was maximum.In WD I do sleep but very bad with vivid dreams and woking up many times through night.What helped me was too hypnitic mediation.Vwry hrlpfull.Bath befor sleeping helped too very much.

[[El...]]

I had exactly that, whenever I nearly fell asleep, bammm.... it was so awful, I used atarax for one night, I didn't sleep perfect but I slept better the day after, I think I used atarax tree times during my bad insomnia wave... abpnd the I started to listen to meditation Hypnos sleep videos from YouTube, and some helped, it takes your mind away to listen to something.

My sleep is really bad again now, but I'm partly in a wave now again.

But I don't pay it so much attention, I kinda think ok, if I sleep I'll sleep, I use the meditation things on and of, also during the day to reduce my everyday benzo anxiety and stress.

I wish u luck and no one has as far as I know died from insomnia. Mine lasted more than two weeks when I finally was so fed up and I took 1/4 atarax.

B

Hugs

 

Before WD I used to have nights of nio sleep.8 nights was maximum.In WD I do sleep but very bad with vivid dreams and woking up many times through night.What helped me was too hypnitic mediation.Vwry hrlpfull.Bath befor sleeping helped too very much.

 

I WANT A BATHTUB  ever since I jumped I've been dreamiiiin about a bathtub :'(

 

[[ed...]]

When I am very tired it does not make sense to increase exertion.

But when I have a need to do extensive repairs or maintenance I sleep at little better.

Sustained moderate activity can help me sleep without overexertion.

 

I use trazodone, but that's not a good thing.

I wish I had a little Remeron, but that's not a good thing.

 

Control of light intensity and light frequency is important in the evening.

[[Be...]]

I was there. You won't die although it feels like you are dying. Your brain will shut down when it needs too.

 

The first time around, I took Remeron. It helped sleep for a while and it worked fast.

 

 

[[er...]]

Not sleeping really sucks.. Just take like 3 zzzquils and you'll be sure to knock out for awhile.. I take them nightly, and have not had any problems.  I also use a sleep hypnosis recording or jus listen to a movie I've seen many times on Netflix, and I pass right out.. When I get up in night, I just put on the recording or movie again to fall back asleep.

 

It will pass and no one has died from insomnia - your body will claim the rest it needs!

 

Eric

[[Mi...]]

I am so afraid i am going to die from insomnia. I have not slept 1 hour in 6 days. I had no sleep problems first 5 months of WD. I get in bed i can relax very well almost asleep and bam my heart sends some kind of surge. I calm myself back down almost alseep and same thing again. I tried melatonin it did nit help. What do I do?! My CNS is so sensetive scared to take anything I even get surges and extreme panic from advil. Please advice so worried my body is going to shut down from no.sleep

 

I went almost 2 weeks without sleep. I was seriously ill at this point so I went to talk to a doctor, she said eventually you're brain will crash and you'll sleep, no matter if you want it or not. So don't worry. She was full of bullshit, a sorry excuse for a doctor. If you don't sleep, eventually you'll die, it's that simple. So getting sleep is essential, get it no matter how you do it. Luckily I saw another doctor the day after and he was shocked to hear what the other doctor said, he immediately put me on allergy tablets, he originally wanted to put me on harder sleeping meds and in a hospital, but I refused. I used some old-school antihistamines (allergy tablets) and they worked for me, My advice is this, GET SLEEP NOW!!! It's really that simple, I don't care how you do it, get sleeping meds if you have to. Don't get to the position I was in, it's dangerous territory. When you go for so long without sleep the immune system starts shutting down, and yes you can die from that. Please get some sleep right away. Even if it's just for an hour.

[[Ma...]]

I had exactly that, whenever I nearly fell asleep, bammm.... it was so awful, I used atarax for one night, I didn't sleep perfect but I slept better the day after, I think I used atarax tree times during my bad insomnia wave... abpnd the I started to listen to meditation Hypnos sleep videos from YouTube, and some helped, it takes your mind away to listen to something.

My sleep is really bad again now, but I'm partly in a wave now again.

But I don't pay it so much attention, I kinda think ok, if I sleep I'll sleep, I use the meditation things on and of, also during the day to reduce my everyday benzo anxiety and stress.

I wish u luck and no one has as far as I know died from insomnia. Mine lasted more than two weeks when I finally was so fed up and I took 1/4 atarax.

B

Hugs

 

Before WD I used to have nights of nio sleep.8 nights was maximum.In WD I do sleep but very bad with vivid dreams and woking up many times through night.What helped me was too hypnitic mediation.Vwry hrlpfull.Bath befor sleeping helped too very much.

 

I WANT A BATHTUB  ever since I jumped I've been dreamiiiin about a bathtub :'(

you are not so fae away from me.i will rent you mine.

[[Kr...]]

When I was in acute, I used phenergan, which I believe is mentioned in the Ashton Manual (I'm pretty sure that's the 'allergy tablets' mentioned above;  it's the old fashioned sedating antihistamine).    I think I only used it 4 times, on nights  when I was really desperate;  I remember my son being given some by a Dr years ago, and she'd apologised because she didn't have the non-sedating type of antihistamine.  It was good, but I did stay awake through the last one I had because I waited up to see what it did...... you need to be in bed when you take it so that you don't miss that window where it peaks.  The thing that I found the worst were the hypnic jerks, which jolted me awake just as I was nodding off to sleep, and I was sooooooo tired!!

 

At other times, (and at times in more recent months when i've had a wave),  I put heaps of cushions behind me so I was almost sitting up, but fully supported with my head comfortable, I'd kept my cellphone light on so I had some light to 'pretend I wasn't trying to fall asleep', had a warm soyamilk & honey (only quarter cup so I didn't have to go to the toilet!), a hot water bottle (yes even in summer), and I'd knit until I 'nodded off'.      I'd get SOME sleep this way, and if I remembered to throw my knitting on the floor, I'd get quite a few hours.  I just had to trick myself that I wasn't trying to fall asleep so I didn't put myself under that pressure and frustration. 

 

 

[[El...]]

When I was in acute, I used phenergan, which I believe is mentioned in the Ashton Manual (I'm pretty sure that's the 'allergy tablets' mentioned above;  it's the old fashioned sedating antihistamine).    I think I only used it 4 times, on nights  when I was really desperate;  I remember my son being given some by a Dr years ago, and she'd apologised because she didn't have the non-sedating type of antihistamine.  It was good, but I did stay awake through the last one I had because I waited up to see what it did...... you need to be in bed when you take it so that you don't miss that window where it peaks.  The thing that I found the worst were the hypnic jerks, which jolted me awake just as I was nodding off to sleep, and I was sooooooo tired!!

 

At other times, (and at times in more recent months when i've had a wave),  I put heaps of cushions behind me so I was almost sitting up, but fully supported with my head comfortable, I'd kept my cellphone light on so I had some light to 'pretend I wasn't trying to fall asleep', had a warm soyamilk & honey (only quarter cup so I didn't have to go to the toilet!), a hot water bottle (yes even in summer), and I'd knit until I 'nodded off'.      I'd get SOME sleep this way, and if I remembered to throw my knitting on the floor, I'd get quite a few hours.  I just had to trick myself that I wasn't trying to fall asleep so I didn't put myself under that pressure and frustration.

 

I'm doing almost the same as you also I used the atarax, the old histamine, but I ones give me a headeache, but I have so much other symptoms anyway, and it's true, u have to be in bed or you will loose the "sleepwindow" I'm actually thinking taking one to night, because I'm in a wave now and I feel those hypnic jerks are coming back, though not as severe as last big wave. I also hate them, and I think I just gotta turn my sleep back before it gets so enoying it's making me even more anxious. 

[[Kr...]]

Ooooooh the FIRST night I fell asleep after my warm soyamilk and throwing my knitting aside, I was so pleased when i woke up;  it gave me confidence to do it again.  And if we have confidence, we have less anxiety, but we do have to do everything to 'spoil' ourselves and 'make ourselves be as comfy as possible, without pressuring ourselves that we have to sleep.

 

I had a recent 6 day wave where everything came back and I was beside myself, but the last 3 nights have moved me towards a window and last night I actually got 8 hours sleep!!!  So keep trying every night, knowing that out of nowhere, one night, it's just going to happen for you, and then, a little spasmodically, more healing will be subtly noticeable, even if it still roller coasters from windows to waves.  Sending  love for comfort xxx

[[El...]]

Kristina🎈❤️ You're the best

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Hi this might help

 

HI all,

 

For all of you (including me) suffering insomnia (due to benzo's or not) this source  might help:

 

https://thesleepschool.org/

 

Dr Guy Meadows talks about how much insomnia is fear based, ie the more anxious we are about not sleeping the less we tend to sleep and advocates accepting your insomnia as a way to improve it. Essentially you have to learn to not give a dam because the more you worry/obsess about sleep the more you put it up on a pedestal and the more pressure you put on yourself to sleep (which means less sleep). Your struggle against insomnia just makes it worse so you have to give up the struggle. The method is by no means a magic pill and can take a while to work but certainly it's worth a try. This approach is also no different to what many people have said (who have recovered or doing better) which is that worry makes insomnia so much worse and that you need to accept the current situation as a way of moving forward and improving it.

 

Guy has also written a nice book on the subject "The Sleep Book" which is an easy/fast read

 

Hope this helps

 

luv and hugs from down under

 

XOX

 

I am so afraid i am going to die from insomnia. I have not slept 1 hour in 6 days. I had no sleep problems first 5 months of WD. I get in bed i can relax very well almost asleep and bam my heart sends some kind of surge. I calm myself back down almost alseep and same thing again. I tried melatonin it did nit help. What do I do?! My CNS is so sensetive scared to take anything I even get surges and extreme panic from advil. Please advice so worried my body is going to shut down from no.sleep

[[Tr...]]

After my first Xanax withdrawal I was on Mirtazapine. It helped me sleep but the side effects were awful, I gained 10 kg, suffered severe sexual dysfunction, and basically lost all interest in everything. I also had a very difficult withdrawal from Mirtazapine. I personally would avoid it if possible.

Trazodone was better for me but caused cognitive impairment and actually made me sleep too much.

 

I now take Tryptophan before I go to bed, not sure it does anything but it seems to help. Also, I find doing an evening sauna really helps me sleep. I have no idea why, but it does.

[[ho...]]

Yep 1966 is right! If we cant sleep then when it comes bedtime we get anxious about not being able to fall asleep, which just makes trying to sleep even harder. I take diphenhydramine to sleep (antihistamine). Also prepare yourself for sleep, Dim the lights, (melatonin is produced in the body by darkness, Then adrenaline is produced by light in the morning , its the bodys sleep , wake cycle) also if you don't fall asleep within about 45mins , get up and do something, have a warm mikly drink, read a little cos just staring at the ceiling does no good at all! Also make sure your bedroom isn't too warm, we sleep better if its a little cooler. Hope this helps a bit!! 

[[so...]]

Milky Way,

 

Normally I look forward to reading your posts, as they are so uplifting and positive.  Boy, you missed the mark on this one!

 

How on earth could you possibly think that posting to people who cannot sleep, telling them they will DIE without sleep, would be encouraging and supportive?  I have no idea what you could have been thinking.  Well, quite simply, you WEREN'T thinking.

 

To all of you having sleep difficulties, you are NOT going to die.  Your sleep will eventually normalize and you will all sleep deeply and peacefully.  The area of your brain that your internal healing system is working on right now is your sleep.  That's why you can't sleep.  When it's fixed, you will sleep.  It's as simple as that.

 

People who are TRULY recovered would NEVER tell you that you will die from lack of sleep.  People who are 100% recovered know the truth of withdrawal.  You recover completely.

 

I wish posts like this would be deleted from public view.  I cannot even imagine the seeds of fear that have been planted in the minds of buddies who suffer from insomnia. 

 

Insomnia is no different than any other symptom.  It is just the one that some people have.  It is no more dangerous than any of the others and it is very very common.

 

Sofa

[[ho...]]

Well said sofa!!  Insomnia can make u feel like shit and depressed but it cant kill you!!!

[[El...]]

Thank you Sofa, it did put a scare on me when I read it yesterday, so thank u again

[[so...]]

Hopeful,

 

Of course it can't.  I would not dare to announce the two symptoms I am still struggling with for fear someone would come along and tell me I'm going to DIE because of it. 

 

Desperately trying to get your sleep to normalize by taking any adjunct meds you can get your hands on is another stupid suggestion.  Your sleep will normalize on its own in time, without the use of aids which, potentially, may just confuse the brain even further.  The brain knows what to do.  Just let the process of healing complete on its own.  Resting in bed, whether you fall asleep or not, is just as calming on the nervous system as sleep.

 

Everyone who has insomnia as a symptom eventually heals from withdrawal and their sleep returns.  I have personally read hundreds of stories of sleep coming back.  Haven't you?

 

Love ya, Sofa

[[ho...]]

Yep sofa I have. But insomnia for me anyway, is something I have had since I was a teenager, and has got worse over the years. I have never been a good sleeper due to anxiety as my mind is always in top gear, so its not a symptom of withdrawal for me, although wd does make it worse!!