Period of healing???

[[ne...]]

Hi,

 

I've been told by more than 2 'professionals' that I'm in a time of healing.

I've asked what that means. I'm told it's different for everyone...duh!

 

I've read across the threads and know what it says and I have my own ideas what it is.

 

Here is my question:

Have any of your been told by any doctor or counselor their definition of what "a time of healing" means? Has it ever been clearly articulated to you? What did they say that was something beyond vague terms?

[[wo...]]

nexttime,

 

Your GABA receptors have been put to sleep for a while.  The time of healing is when they're waking up.  It's not a party.

 

A prayer for you!

 

ty

[[Mi...]]

Usually neurologists say it takes about 2 years to heal the receptors. But it's individual. For some it takes only a few months. For others it can take several years. But don't worry, just give it time, let you're body heal and don't rush it. Let it heal. 

[[ne...]]

It's nice to hear that some doctors tell you what the healing is about.

I've yet to hear one clearly state what the healing is if they do acknowledge it.

Only one has so far.

[Guest [Ka...]]

Hi. Which neurologists say two years?  I'd like to read that. I think I read a rough estimate is one month for each year one used the benzodiazepine. Thanks. Peace. Karuna

[[Mi...]]

Hi. Which neurologists say two years?  I'd like to read that. I think I read a rough estimate is one month for each year one used the benzodiazepine. Thanks. Peace. Karuna

 

My neurologists. One that actually knows what he's talking about. He's been in the field of neurodegenerative research for 20 years and can confirm that GABA receptors need around 2 year of healing. Most neurologists are idiots, the "research" stating it only takes one months to heal for each year of benzo's is from the 1970s... Old outdated rubbish. I had to switch 3 times before I found the good ones. All the good ones agree that it takes around 2 years to heal. There is alot of nonneural tissue surrounding the GABA receptors that need to heal, not only the GABA receptors. And not to mention the mental side of things. That alone can take years.

[[Mi...]]

It's nice to hear that some doctors tell you what the healing is about.

I've yet to hear one clearly state what the healing is if they do acknowledge it.

Only one has so far.

 

All the good doctors agree that it takes around 2 years for complete healing. All new research and evidence shows that. But most doctors cling on to old data from the 70s and 80s. And refuse to stay updated on new research. Why? Beacause most doctors have their head so far up their ass they can't even see the light of day. There are two types of doctors on this planet, the ones that actually care about the science and are passionate about medicine. And those who love the status, power, money you get from being a doctor. Try to find one that cares about the science.

[[of...]]

Exactly..

 

 

It's nice to hear that some doctors tell you what the healing is about.

I've yet to hear one clearly state what the healing is if they do acknowledge it.

Only one has so far.

 

All the good doctors agree that it takes around 2 years for complete healing. All new research and evidence shows that. But most doctors cling on to old data from the 70s and 80s. And refuse to stay updated on new research. Why? Beacause most doctors have their head so far up their ass they can't even see the light of day. There are two types of doctors on this planet, the ones that actually care about the science and are passionate about medicineAnd those who love the status, power, money you get from being a doctor.Try to find one that cares about the science.

 

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[[pi...]]

It's nice to hear that some doctors tell you what the healing is about.

I've yet to hear one clearly state what the healing is if they do acknowledge it.

Only one has so far.

 

All the good doctors agree that it takes around 2 years for complete healing. All new research and evidence shows that. But most doctors cling on to old data from the 70s and 80s. And refuse to stay updated on new research. Why? Beacause most doctors have their head so far up their ass they can't even see the light of day. There are two types of doctors on this planet, the ones that actually care about the science and are passionate about medicine. And those who love the status, power, money you get from being a doctor. Try to find one that cares about the science.

 

Milkyway,

 

Please post within forum guidelines. While we understand the people can be frustrated with the medical community, overall denigration of the medical field is not allowed. You may comment on your particular instance, I have many times, after being misdiagnosed and medicated without proper information about the drugs.

 

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pianogirl

[[pi...]]

Exactly..

 

 

It's nice to hear that some doctors tell you what the healing is about.

I've yet to hear one clearly state what the healing is if they do acknowledge it.

Only one has so far.

 

All the good doctors agree that it takes around 2 years for complete healing. All new research and evidence shows that. But most doctors cling on to old data from the 70s and 80s. And refuse to stay updated on new research. Why? Beacause most doctors have their head so far up their ass they can't even see the light of day. There are two types of doctors on this planet, the ones that actually care about the science and are passionate about medicineAnd those who love the status, power, money you get from being a doctor.Try to find one that cares about the science.

 

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Hello offeverything,

 

I'm going to ask you also to post within forum guidelines in terms of not abasing the entire medical field. Speak to your own experience only.

 

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[[no...]]

Karuna,.. I've never heard the one month for each year before... since I only took these for a few months that would mean I should have been over this in less than a month??

 

This is from Dr. Meliemis in Canada who specializes in this field

 

"Post-acute withdrawal usually lasts for 2 years. This is one of the most important things you need to remember. If you are up to the challenge you can get through this. But if you think that post acute withdrawal will only last a few mos., then you will get caught off guard....

 

How to survive Post Acute Withdrawal

 

Be patient. Two years can feel like a long time if you are in a rush to get through it. You cant hurry recovery. But you can get through it one day at a time.

If you try to rush your recovery, or resent post-acute withdrawal, or try to bulldoze your way through, you will become exhausted.

 

Post-acute withdrawal symptoms are a sign that your brain IS recovering. They are the result of your brain chemistry gradually going back to normal, Therefor dont resent them, But remember, even one year, you may only be halfway there.

 

Go with the flow. Withdrawal symptoms are uncomfortable. But the more you resent them the worse they will seem. you will have lots of good days over the next two years. Enjoy them. You will also have alot of bad days. On those days,dont try to do to much. Take care of yourself,focus on your recovery,and you will get through this.

 

You will go through days or weeks without symptoms and then one day you will wake up and your withdrawal will hit you like a ton of bricks...if you are not prepared for it, if you think post-acute withdrawal only lasts a few mos., or if you think that you will be different and it will not be as bad for you , then you will get caught off guard. But if you know what to expect you can do this.

 

Practice self care. Give yourself lots of little breaks over the next two years. Tell yourself "what I am going through is enough". Be good to yourself. That is what you MUST learn in recovery.

Sometimes you will have little energy or enthusiasm for anything. Understand this and do not overbook your life. Give yourself permission to focus on your recovery.".....

 

My personal doctor agrees with this..

 

one thing I have learnt is, it takes as long as it takes and nobody can say if that's a month, 6months, a year, 2 years, 5 years, 10.....  it's just however long it takes

 

Nomne

 

[Guest [Ka...]]

Hello. Thank You for that lengthy reply.  I just wanted a written reference, thanks very much, I'm researching also. I had not found anything in writing that states 2.  The period of Gaba/glutamate system returning to balance must depend on many factors: dosage itself, duration of use, combined with other drugs, i.e. antidepressants effect, ingesting high glutamate foods, and many other variables. General health,exercise, attitude, stress of everyday living. I'm not sure where I heard the number one month for each year of benzodiazepine use, it just sticks out for me. It did not come from my doctor.

My acupuncturist is also an MD.  I got lucky; Eastern medicine. Peace. Karuna

[[Mi...]]

It's nice to hear that some doctors tell you what the healing is about.

I've yet to hear one clearly state what the healing is if they do acknowledge it.

Only one has so far.

 

All the good doctors agree that it takes around 2 years for complete healing. All new research and evidence shows that. But most doctors cling on to old data from the 70s and 80s. And refuse to stay updated on new research. Why? Beacause most doctors have their head so far up their ass they can't even see the light of day. There are two types of doctors on this planet, the ones that actually care about the science and are passionate about medicine. And those who love the status, power, money you get from being a doctor. Try to find one that cares about the science.

 

Milkyway,

 

Please post within forum guidelines. While we understand the people can be frustrated with the medical community, overall denigration of the medical field is not allowed. You may comment on your particular instance, I have many times, after being misdiagnosed and medicated without proper information about the drugs.

 

• Whilst some of our members report negative experiences with doctors, psychiatrists, or the wider medical profession, and although we do not wish to outlaw comments about how members feel let down or mistreated in their personal medical care, you are not permitted to use this community as a platform to spread general anti-doctor or anti-psychiatry propaganda. Nor should you, unless you are posting a recommendation, name those involved in your healthcare. For more about this policy, please read our Anti-doctor, Anti-psychiatrist and Anti-medicine Comments notice.
   
   
   
  pianogirl
  

 
Ok, I understand. 

[[of...]]

I'm not completely against the med field. I plan on having my masters of science in nursing, so the world isnt completely screwed I guess 

[[Mi...]]

I'm not completely against the med field. I plan on having my masters of science in nursing, so the world isnt completely screwed I guess 

 

Thats great, you should go for it.

[[sl...]]

Nomne,  Thanks for posting that.  It's always nice to hear about a doctor who understands this stuff, as they seem to be a rare breed. 

[[ne...]]

When I was first told 2 years for healing by my recent pdoc, I didn't post anywhere on the board as I didn't want to rattle people. Now I see it is common knowledge. I've told my family that 2 years is probably what I need to plan on.

 

So, plan for the worst and hope for the best.

 

I feel lucky that I've been having some good days recently and I get optimistic.

This is all so random, some do well short term and may never visit this site.

Some are here for years.

 

Hard to make any plans in the next 2 years it seems.

[[sl...]]

Just want to share 2 things that I was told:

 

Recently, a buddie of mine saw her pych doc and she was told that the brain heals in increments of 3 months.  This is interesting and believable as the first 3 months are usually the worst before it starts to simmer down.  In my case, the next phase of noticeable improvements came at 6 months and 12 months (9 months was actually a huge setback).

 

When I was a few months off, I saw a pychologist who understands pych drugs.  She drew me a picture of the upregulation/down regulation of the receptors affected by benzos.  She seemed to really know her stuff and told me that it takes the brain 5 years to recover from that type of damage.  I really wish I would have asked for more clarification as I wonder what she thinks about the 2 year average that most others talk about or experience.  Perhaps it really does take a total of 5 years, though most people don't feel any symptoms after the 2 year mark. 

 

[Guest [Ka...]]

This is very interesting. Any good studies you might share link? I'm just passing 9 months. (Xanax, 3 yrs, 4 mg at times) Am curious what the 9 month setback is described as...thanks for your reply. I think I'm healed, some of what I call "Xanax Flashbacks" (not really a flashback, but hard to describe, more like an odd CNS response to real stresses), Karuna

[[Ke...]]

Interesting but depressing at the same time!! Hell I heard ten years was the norm 😤

[[Ke...]]

Is that recovery time supposed to be from when you actually stop taking the drug,or are you gradually healing whist reducing,I did reinstate twice and am fearing the worst for my poor brain ☹️️