Currently under 0.004 mg of Klonopin. Not stable. What to do?

[[Kl...]]

So I'm at 0.0035 mg of Klonopin using a water titration. Yeah, less than 4 micrograms.  I can make a single pill last forever at this point.  It's been a multi year taper.  God I want to be done.  I'm doing a 2% per day taper holding as needed.  My body is so super sensitive to changes at this point.  For example, a couple weeks ago I hit a wall and kept my dose steady until I stabilized.  Stability didn't come so I updosed.  At the time I was taking 4 micrograms per day and added an additional 1 microgram dose.  Percentagewise that's more than I've EVER updosed (way more) although I've really only done that 3 or 4 other times in this multi year taper.  I'd been on the verge of suicide for a week and within 4 hours I was euphoric and hypomanic and that lasted a few days.  Over one single MICROGRAM.

 

I just don't know what to do.  Do I continue with the taper forever or do I just call it quits and cold turkey.  This dose is just ridiculously low.  On one hand, I'm concerned if I cold turkey I'll dive into a depression I won't be able to get out for months, maybe many months and even then I might need the help of another medication or might need to go inpatient.  God knows what they would do to me then.  Honestly, they would probably just pull another random benzo out of their hat.

 

On the other had, maybe for some reason my slow tapering is making things worse.  Maybe I'd be more stable if I just went cold turkey or called it quits altogether?

 

Then again, maybe I just need to go to twice per day dosing.  I don't really notice any interdose withdrawal effects but I don't know.

 

FML.  This sucks.  As an aside I have an EXTREMELY supportive and benzo-wise nurse practitioner.  She has all of the gory details on my symptoms and will support pretty much any decision I come up with.  All around amazing woman.

 

Thoughts?

[[er...]]

Just jump already!  You're at zero pretty much anyway - let the healing begin! : )

[[Ch...]]

That's a very low dose of Klonopin.  I tend to agree that it should be fine to jump at .0035mg, but if you're not sure I'd ask the folks on the Klonopin thread where they jumped.  I jumped at .0625mg of Xanax (Xanax and Klonopin are roughly equivalent) which is much, much higher than where you are.  I had no changes in symptoms once I jumped, in fact I immediately began to feel better.

 

Just my two cents.  .0035 isn't going to be considered a cold turkey in anyone's book. 

[[Ch...]]

I agree, time to let go of the fear and jump.  It will be what will be!  Best wishes!

[[me...]]

Yes, we all have to jump sometime, and I doubt whether the tiny amount you're still taking has any effect anyway.  And, it certainly wouldn't be a "cold turkey." Like others here, I jumped at a much, much higher level than that. 

[[be...]]

So I'm at 0.0035 mg of Klonopin using a water titration. Yeah, less than 4 micrograms.  I can make a single pill last forever at this point.  It's been a multi year taper.  God I want to be done.  I'm doing a 2% per day taper holding as needed.  My body is so super sensitive to changes at this point.  For example, a couple weeks ago I hit a wall and kept my dose steady until I stabilized.  Stability didn't come so I updosed.  At the time I was taking 4 micrograms per day and added an additional 1 microgram dose.  Percentagewise that's more than I've EVER updosed (way more) although I've really only done that 3 or 4 other times in this multi year taper.  I'd been on the verge of suicide for a week and within 4 hours I was euphoric and hypomanic and that lasted a few days.  Over one single MICROGRAM.

 

I just don't know what to do.  Do I continue with the taper forever or do I just call it quits and cold turkey.  This dose is just ridiculously low.  On one hand, I'm concerned if I cold turkey I'll dive into a depression I won't be able to get out for months, maybe many months and even then I might need the help of another medication or might need to go inpatient.  God knows what they would do to me then.  Honestly, they would probably just pull another random benzo out of their hat.

 

On the other had, maybe for some reason my slow tapering is making things worse.  Maybe I'd be more stable if I just went cold turkey or called it quits altogether?

 

Then again, maybe I just need to go to twice per day dosing.  I don't really notice any interdose withdrawal effects but I don't know.

 

FML.  This sucks.  As an aside I have an EXTREMELY supportive and benzo-wise nurse practitioner.  She has all of the gory details on my symptoms and will support pretty much any decision I come up with.  All around amazing woman.

 

Thoughts?

 

Nowhere near a cold turkey. You could not be further from it. A CT withdrawal is when ZERO taper is done. It sounds like you have done an extremely sensible slow taper and have gotten yourself to a very low dose!!! Congrats!

[[Be...]]

Oh gosh, I so agree! Jump off this sick ship!!! Plan it for a time that you can lay low if you get in trouble, but get it over with. I would think you are certainly getting no therapeutic value from stringing this out, and probably the opposite. Jump and report back!!! Prayers for a soft landing!!!! You got this!!!

[[Di...]]

Hi Karl, I'm almost where you are.  I'm at .005mg/day clonazepam.

 

I think we are both just going to have to jump very very soon.

 

Just out of curiosity, how do you calculate micrograms?

 

Wishing you all the best.

[[Ju...]]

Even your name 'KlonopinKarl' tells me you are identifying yourself too much with the K !

I've seen this psychological trap before. You have defeated the chemical addiction.

Now you must look into your great future. Jump, without even thinking about it. IT

is gone and only Karl remains!

-Justaman

 

 

[[az...]]

How I wish I were at that low a dose, I'd have jumped already!

[[be...]]

I took it down to dredges and jumped at .006 mg. More than you and mine was a non event. JUMP I say, JUMP!

[[Wh...]]

At this point, I would say it is time to get off the benzo train! Bite the bullet! Be fearless. Always remember your dr supports you. That is very comforting. You have a tremendous amount of support.

 

Prayers for healing,

WTG

[[Kl...]]

Thank you everyone for the encouraging words.  Friday night was my last dose.  I didn't take any last night and I won't be taking it again.  There isn't anything critical on my schedule this week so I'm just planning on eating well, hanging out with my friend's and laying low.  See what happens.  And of course looking forward to Friday when I'll tell my nurse practitioner that she can stop prescribing me Klonopin!

 

Thanks guys!

[[Kl...]]

 

Just out of curiosity, how do you calculate micrograms?

 

 

 

Good luck with your jump DG!  If it's any encouragement, I decided to just do it! 

 

And for micrograms there are 1000 micrograms in one mg.  So if you are taking 0.005 mg that's 5 micrograms. 

 

You must be doing a water titration similar to me if you are working with a dose that small, yes?

[[Ch...]]

Hi, KK, now just K!!!!! I am so proud of you for taking your future into your own hands!!! I jumped from 3 days of 0.125 (after rapid taper starting at 2mg) and nothing will make me take another Benzo or Benzo like drug again. I need shoulder surgery but most of the premeds involve Benzo like drugs!!!

Please keep posting your journey as I have bonded with you spiritually!!!

Best wishes!!!

[[be...]]

Great job, Karl..................

[[Kl...]]

Congrats on being klonopin free!!! 

[[Ch...]]

Let the rest of the healing begin!  Check in and let us know how you're doing and congrats on being benzo free!

[[Ki...]]

Justaman, is that a real raccoon holding a real  kitten? Please tell me the story! I used to do wildlife baby rehabilitation before my benzo dsys of hell... Send me a clear photo! It's the most adorable thing I've ever seen!!! It put a smile on my face for the first time in months!

[[be...]]

Justaman, is that a real raccoon holding a real  kitten? Please tell me the story! I used to do wildlife baby rehabilitation before my benzo dsys of hell... Send me a clear photo! It's the most adorable thing I've ever seen!!! It put a smile on my face for the first time in months!

 

I think it really cool too, if it's real. Great photo.