I cant do this its insane

[[ti...]]

I need professional help with this, but none is available.  I cant get the taper schedules.  I cant cut my pills 10 percent. 

I can only understand half pill, quarter pill, which is all I can really cut with 1 mg tablets of Clonazepam.  I don't expect I can get anything different my doctor is reluctant to refill every month.

Right now going on day 3 with no sleep.  Sleep wasn't really good before this, but now its even worse.  I have home remodeling coming, so no naps, kids are getting off school for the summer.  I will probably be forced off cold turkey eventually but for now I need to be a reasonably functioning person.

I may try again after the home remodel is done, and sleep is happening again.

If someone could please give me a way to taper that doesn't include percentages and mg.  My pills don't come scored with either.

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I need professional help with this, but none is available.  I cant get the taper schedules.  I cant cut my pills 10 percent. 

I can only understand half pill, quarter pill, which is all I can really cut with 1 mg tablets of Clonazepam.  I don't expect I can get anything different my doctor is reluctant to refill every month.

Right now going on day 3 with no sleep.  Sleep wasn't really good before this, but now its even worse.  I have home remodeling coming, so no naps, kids are getting off school for the summer.  I will probably be forced off cold turkey eventually but for now I need to be a reasonably functioning person.

I may try again after the home remodel is done, and sleep is happening again.

If someone could please give me a way to taper that doesn't include percentages and mg.  My pills don't come scored with either.

 

Hi tinwi,

Hang in there!  There are different opinions throughout this site as to what the best rate is, whether to go by percentage, mg, or pill size, how long to stabilize for, etc.  However, most of us agree that you shouldn't go cold turkey or super fast, that you should be comfortable with your plan and be able to adjust the plan if needed...you should be in charge.

For me, I prefer to cut by mg.  My first 2 cuts were a bit large but the rest were pretty doable even though I still experienced symptoms throughout I also had some good days.  After setting a taper plan, I learned what seemed to work best for me which is to cut .125mg every 3 weeks.  This could change but overall this is the best combination for me.  Others would say this is too fast, some would say it's too slow!  I say it works for me at least it has up to this point.

Try not to panic!  You will figure it out that's why you're here!  Good luck

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I need professional help with this, but none is available.  I cant get the taper schedules.  I cant cut my pills 10 percent. 

I can only understand half pill, quarter pill, which is all I can really cut with 1 mg tablets of Clonazepam.  I don't expect I can get anything different my doctor is reluctant to refill every month.

Right now going on day 3 with no sleep.  Sleep wasn't really good before this, but now its even worse.  I have home remodeling coming, so no naps, kids are getting off school for the summer.  I will probably be forced off cold turkey eventually but for now I need to be a reasonably functioning person.

I may try again after the home remodel is done, and sleep is happening again.

If someone could please give me a way to taper that doesn't include percentages and mg.  My pills don't come scored with either.

 

Sorry your struggling tinwi, stay calm,  I have moved your post from intro, I am sure one of our members will give you some advice here on the taper board.  I have no experience with (Klonopin)  Clonazepam.  I dry cut diazepam so I know how difficult it is cutting tiny pills.  Had I of known about titration I might have chosen to go with that. Tryingtobepositive has given you some good advice. Don't cold turkey

 

You could post to this thread

 

The Klonopin Klub

 

You can do this!

 

Magrita

 

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I need professional help with this, but none is available.  I cant get the taper schedules.  I cant cut my pills 10 percent. 

I can only understand half pill, quarter pill, which is all I can really cut with 1 mg tablets of Clonazepam.  I don't expect I can get anything different my doctor is reluctant to refill every month.

Right now going on day 3 with no sleep.  Sleep wasn't really good before this, but now its even worse.  I have home remodeling coming, so no naps, kids are getting off school for the summer.  I will probably be forced off cold turkey eventually but for now I need to be a reasonably functioning person.

I may try again after the home remodel is done, and sleep is happening again.

If someone could please give me a way to taper that doesn't include percentages and mg.  My pills don't come scored with either.

 

If you make your pills into liquid K, dividing it will become easy.  We have fairly simple ways to make K liquid if you wanted to try.  IMO benzos scream to be liquid when tapering.  This is especially true with K.

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Not everyone tolerates liquid well or at all.

 

Can you also get 0.5 mg or 0.25 mg pills ? Also, there are tricks for 'cutting' small amounts.

If you like, you could ask in the support group section, klonopin club.

[[ti...]]

I hope this doesn't post twice.  But thanks everyone I do need help with the dry cutting.  My Doctor is just a gp.  He is clueless about this.  When clonazepam stopped working I asked to be switched to valium, and he said, no way that drug is bad.  Plus the DEA is really leaning on doctors not to write prescriptions.  I have heard of people being cut off cold turkey, esp when they lose their dr due to network changes, retirement, etc.  I have also heard of psychiatrists weaning people off very quickly.

Their licenses are on the line.  The DEA takes no patient care into consideration.  I get ZERO refills.  That means some months I am forced to hold my breath and taper while waiting for the refill to be approved.

I wish I could get backup pills, or someone said they brought some online?  Either way, I obviously have to go slower.  How long after a cut does it take for symptoms to go away?

 

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I would like some more information about liquid clonazepam as well. I had my pharmacy cut my clonazepam pills into quarters, so each quarter is .125. That's all very nice but what next? If I was to cut them by 10% it will have to be thought titration. I am going to get a compounding pharmacy to prepare it for me. Would 0.1mg to 0.1ml be a good ratio to start?

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I would like some more information about liquid clonazepam as well. I had my pharmacy cut my clonazepam pills into quarters, so each quarter is .125. That's all very nice but what next? If I was to cut them by 10% it will have to be thought titration. I am going to get a compounding pharmacy to prepare it for me. Would 0.1mg to 0.1ml be a good ratio to start?

 

Yes, .1mg per .1ml is .01mg/ml.  That is dilute enough to work all the way off.

[[ti...]]

What pharmacy do you go to that cuts the pills for you?  I wish I could find one that would do that.  Cant you taper off .125 by taking them every other day?  This stuff sounds like you need to be a chemist to do it

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Can you request to see a psychiatrist? My GP had no clue about tapering, et., so she sent me to a psych Dr. and come to find the Psych Dr. was much more knowledgeable and is working with me to taper slowly.

 

This is just my experience...but for the first couple months I did every thing wrong and it was wretched. Now I am doing a liquid taper (I use a pestle to crush my pill of .25 K. I add 100 ml water. Right now I pull out and throw away only .25 a day using a 1ml syringe-so .25 on day one, then .5 on day two, then .75 day 3 and 1ml on day 4. So it's a slow taper...will probably take me a bout a year....but I went through debilitating withdrawals for two months tying to cut too fast and have no intention of suffering that bad again.)

[[ti...]]

There are no available psychiatrists in my area.

[[be...]]

What pharmacy do you go to that cuts the pills for you?  I wish I could find one that would do that.  Cant you taper off .125 by taking them every other day?  This stuff sounds like you need to be a chemist to do it

 

My local pharmacy cuts it. Any pharmacy has a pill cutter so they should be able to do that for you. You want to keep a constant dosage in your body so alternating day might not be ideal with short half life benzos. Find a compounding pharmacy that will make you a liquid clonazepam so that you won't need to prepare this on your own.

[[ti...]]

How do u find a compounding pharmacy? Does your Dr. Need to send them your rx?

[[be...]]

you can google compounding pharmacy in your area. Your doctor can fax them your prescription. I am in Canada so I'm not sure that this works the same where you live.

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You see some people can afford the bells and whistles.  If you are stuck like me not back to work.  Making ends meet.  It might be more expensive.  Or you have a problem with getting s it themselves. Script.  You can do this if you go by someone here who has done it themselves. I'm tapering V.

 

You don't want to run out that's for sure and I believe. Slow because I fear the horrific side affects and what they do to you in long run.  Everybodys different they say here.  It's important to find someone you can understand on here.  I'm no mathematician and when in fear and withdrawl hard to work your way out of a paper bag.    Here's to you. ....we all ant speedy recovery...      Thanks for being here.  We need each other.

[[ti...]]

My doctor wont work with me. I have no access to psychiatric care. I have nobody to care for my family. Last night is the first night i actually slept because i took my normal dose

I dont know where to go from here. I was looking for medical help with this and none available.

I got panic attacks just thinking about this. I cant go without sleep for months like some here do

Nobody told me this shit was going to happen

[[be...]]

 

You see some people can afford the bells and whistles.  If you are stuck like me not back to work.  Making ends meet.  It might be more expensive.  Or you have a problem with getting s it themselves. Script.  You can do this if you go by someone here who has done it themselves. I'm tapering V.

 

 

I hear you. I am not working either. I am on disability benefits from the government. I would however pay any amount to be healthy. Once I'm healthy I can start working and start somewhat a better life. I am currently living off loans and in a lot of debt and it's frustrating. I don't know how much longer I can sastain this. At some point my credit is going to end and I will have to go to work.

 

I don't know how long this tapering is going to last. Everyone is different. I get up everyday sick from withdrawal symptoms, and not knowing when thing will get better is slowly getting to me. I want to beat this but I there is a point where we bend so far we break. I postponed my life enough and I don't know if I have in me any more strength to continue this "wait and see" method.

[[be...]]

My doctor wont work with me. I have no access to psychiatric care. I have nobody to care for my family. Last night is the first night i actually slept because i took my normal dose

I dont know where to go from here. I was looking for medical help with this and none available.

I got panic attacks just thinking about this. I cant go without sleep for months like some here do

Nobody told me this shit was going to happen

 

If your doctor is being difficult can you look for another doctor?

[[be...]]

Can you request to see a psychiatrist? My GP had no clue about tapering, et., so she sent me to a psych Dr. and come to find the Psych Dr. was much more knowledgeable and is working with me to taper slowly.

 

This is just my experience...but for the first couple months I did every thing wrong and it was wretched. Now I am doing a liquid taper (I use a pestle to crush my pill of .25 K. I add 100 ml water. Right now I pull out and throw away only .25 a day using a 1ml syringe-so .25 on day one, then .5 on day two, then .75 day 3 and 1ml on day 4. So it's a slow taper...will probably take me a bout a year....but I went through debilitating withdrawals for two months tying to cut too fast and have no intention of suffering that bad again.)

 

It seems I am tapering too fast as well. I am now on .25 but it still rough. I really don't want to increase the dosage but if I can't take the withdrawal symptoms anymore I will have to do that.

 

 

[[Ch...]]

Here's another option: http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=135284.6120.  This is the micro tapering group.  You might want to ask them for help with your taper.  They do pretty well on daily micro cuts.

[[ti...]]

I cant do anything right now, plus many people lose their benzos because they get a new dr. As soon as home remodeling is done i am going to look for rehabs