[il...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hi, guys! I know how you're going to react to this. I thought the same thing when I *first* read this. Then, I met my friend who practiced this, who was taught by a friend of hers who learned this and supported a ton of people through wd by applying this mentality. WD is going to happen. Nothing but time can heal it. But, I started following this diet and the second half of yesterday, and all of today seemed more manageable than ever. Is it *easy* yet? Not 100%. I have been doing things like driving to my aunt's and running errands with a little mere anxiety - I haven't had a flare up of that horrific fear and paranoia. Will they come anyway? I'm sure. But not as often. My diet really was contributing to it to flare ups. *Some* people are super sensitive. I don't believe I was to begin with. By that, I mean my toothepaste never bothered me. But I am starting to make connections. Last weekend I drank chamomile tea aaaaalll day both Saturday and Sunday. Guess what? Those were the two days I ended up calling my mentor friend bawling like a girl because it was so bad. I realized also that I was eating way too much sugar. I haven't lately. Today? Salmon with just a bit of organic lemon slices and butter, organic red beets sautéed in extra virgin, salad with romaine and tons of veggies, extra virgin and organic vinegar, organic homemade banana tea. Lunch? 2 hard-boiled egg, 2 slices of provolone cheese. Snack? Almonds and walnuts. Basically anything from the ground or from an animal. No preservatives. No processed junk. No sugar. The sugar, without a doubt, was revving me up and I didn't even realize it. Am I saying I'm healed? Clearly not. But I'll tell ya what, in just a day and a half, the difference feels amazing. Our brains need clean protein. Our system can't handle sugar or carbs. It makes sense now. It feels like it went from absolute hell 2-3 times a day still, to at least being manageable. In fact, I felt like a slightly anxious (and still a bit challenged) version of my old self. I wasn't panting for breath, thinking about a million things (only half a million), and, the more appreciated improvement, the intrusive crazy thoughts that Stephen King would be jealous of, they are very sporadic now, not constant. No processed junk. No preservatives. No sugar, except from fruit. No supplements. (Put the l-Theanine down. It won't do anything.) No teas. Clean, healthy food, especially protein is what our bodies need. And plenty of water. Also, I graze all day versus large meals to try and keep my blood sugar stable. Try it! I promise it'll help! I just hope I can keep up with it all the time! Time to get creative! Special shout to my girls for coaching me on this! Never again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[me...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Great to hear it is working for you! That is the diet I eat--well I'm not perfect, but 90% of the time. I think I've done so much better this past few months because of my diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [jc...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 It sounds very healthy! Is that like the paleo diet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[il...] Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Meowie - I definitely don't want to come across like I'm sitting here preaching that it healed me lol it's just manageable, versus pure hell. At least for me anyway and so far! I plan to follow up in the coming days. I downed sugar with no thought, processed foods, etc. *sometimes* it wasn't horrible, but it was definitely affecting me! JC - this is what I understand what's in the Paleo, come to think of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[do...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Our bodies need carbs to function, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[il...] Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Our bodies need carbs to function, no? Donnie I meant no white flour. I get carbs elsewhere. Fruit is okay. I should change that. Basically nothing shelf-stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Also no fruit? Have you an idea what i can make against the sugar withdarawl symptoms? Because every time when i try to stop eating it, if gives me more symptoms like stiff neck and heart palpitations. And what can i do against my big hunger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[il...] Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Also no fruit? Have you an idea what i can make against the sugar withdarawl symptoms? Because every time when i try to stop eating it, if gives me more symptoms like stiff neck and heart palpitations. And what can i do against my big hunger? Eat fruit but keep it light. Is my math correct in stating you're 2.5 (ish) years out? Your last dose was new year 2014, and that was a z drug? I'm not a pro on this, just a messenger. I'd have to suggest you ask some protracted friends what works for them. Keep going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hey, lyrica(pregrabalin) is no z drug it's a anticonvulsant, had this to reduce acute withdarawl symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[il...] Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hey, lyrica(pregrabalin) is no z drug it's a anticonvulsant, had this to reduce acute withdarawl symptoms. I'm sorry. That's right, my apologies. Lunesta is what I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Bl...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I can't stand when I hear people say to limit fruit intake. Fruit is literally one of, if not the most healthy, foods you can eat. Fruit sugar is completely different than processed sugar. The fiber in fruit prevents blood sugar problems (except maybe in diabetics). Fruit is completely healthy and great for those of us suffering. Your body needs all the nutrients it can get right now, including the great nutrients in fruit. The brain and body NEED carbs. Want to increase your cog fog? Then go ahead and limit carbs. The only carbs you need to avoid are processed ones. Avoid processed food. It's that simple. Fruit is NOT something anyone needs to avoid except diabetics with out of control blood sugar problems. In my opinion dairy should be avoided during this ordeal. I never feel well after eating dairy. I feel best when I eat totally plant based, but it doesn't relieve my symptoms overall, just helps a tiny bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[il...] Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 I can't stand when I hear people say to limit fruit intake. Fruit is literally one of, if not the most healthy, foods you can eat. Fruit sugar is completely different than processed sugar. The fiber in fruit prevents blood sugar problems (except maybe in diabetics). Fruit is completely healthy and great for those of us suffering. Your body needs all the nutrients it can get right now, including the great nutrients in fruit. The brain and body NEED carbs. Want to increase your cog fog? Then go ahead and limit carbs. The only carbs you need to avoid are processed ones. Avoid processed food. It's that simple. Fruit is NOT something anyone needs to avoid except diabetics with out of control blood sugar problems. In my opinion dairy should be avoided during this ordeal. I never feel well after eating dairy. I feel best when I eat totally plant based, but it doesn't relieve my symptoms overall, just helps a tiny bit. I don't trust any sugar completely right now. And "limiting fruits" is very subjective - I just meant I don't go crazy. I'll eat an apple. Maybe a banana later. Thanks for your input, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[il...] Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 I can't stand when I hear people say to limit fruit intake. Fruit is literally one of, if not the most healthy, foods you can eat. Fruit sugar is completely different than processed sugar. The fiber in fruit prevents blood sugar problems (except maybe in diabetics). Fruit is completely healthy and great for those of us suffering. Your body needs all the nutrients it can get right now, including the great nutrients in fruit. The brain and body NEED carbs. Want to increase your cog fog? Then go ahead and limit carbs. The only carbs you need to avoid are processed ones. Avoid processed food. It's that simple. Fruit is NOT something anyone needs to avoid except diabetics with out of control blood sugar problems. In my opinion dairy should be avoided during this ordeal. I never feel well after eating dairy. I feel best when I eat totally plant based, but it doesn't relieve my symptoms overall, just helps a tiny bit. and thanks for the suggestion about dairy. It's funny how some things work for some and not others. It's worth playing around with, though. Wishes for a speedy recovery, Blueskies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Sorry blueskies, that's unfortunately not ture, too much fructose can harm your body, especially the liver more than you think. Yes, i also thought fruit is so healthy but new research now proven the opposite. Here is an article about that: http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2013/10/are-you-suffering-from-fructose-poisoning/page-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Bl...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Sorry blueskies, that's unfortunately not ture, too much fructose can harm your body, especially the liver more than you think. Yes, i also thought fruit is so healthy but new research now proven the opposite. Here is an article about that: http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2013/10/are-you-suffering-from-fructose-poisoning/page-01 That link you just provided is talking about processed sugar, not natural sugars. Please explain why nearly all plant based vegans are lean and suffer less health problems than their meat and dairy eating counterparts if "too much" fruit consumption is bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[no...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Sorry blueskies, that's unfortunately not ture, too much fructose can harm your body, especially the liver more than you think. Yes, i also thought fruit is so healthy but new research now proven the opposite. Here is an article about that: http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2013/10/are-you-suffering-from-fructose-poisoning/page-01 No your reading it wrong Bttr The warring is about artificially made fructose '*in isolate* not fructose in Fruit its self I eat a LOT of fruit, and the ''diet'' recommend on this thread except its not a 'diet'' its a 'life style choice'' I eat all organic, grass fed animals, fresh nothing in tins or packets. Cook everything from scratch, eat Dandelions greens their really good for you and drink raw milk and don't drink tap water. And am in effing agony with severe sxs. BUT I imagine it would make a big difference to some one that's been eating a crap diet for year's so yes it will help some people in some way .I've lived this way for many year's . From the link you posted........ Please don’t avoid fruit and vegetables because they contain fructose. The slower absorption from whole fruit/vegetables should enable your liver to safely clear it. A limited study showed that people consuming very high fruit diets did not suffer adverse effects on body weight, blood pressure, and insulin and lipid levels after 12-24 weeks.59 Since the 1960s, the food industry has been loading up a growing proportion of the American food supply with a substance that’s vastly cheaper than sucrose: high fructose corn syrup.60,61 High fructose corn syrup can have up to 5% more fructose than table sugar (which we already consume in too high of quantities), it’s up to around 1.3 times sweeter than table sugar (increasing our need for sugar-sweetened foods), and it’s nearly impossible to avoid.58,62 http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2013/10/are-you-suffering-from-fructose-poisoning/page-01 Love Nova xxx :smitten: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[do...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The word "Fruit" is not even mentioned in that article. Literally. I searched for it. It's obvious that highly processed corn sweetener is bad for you. The fibre in fruit is what balances the sugar, though. Fruits are whole foods, so there are countermeasures in place for the high amounts of sugar. I really wonder sometimes just how much these posts on diet are really helping anyone. Studies for this... studies to prove that... I'm sure there are studies that say I should only eat meat at every meal too. Can we even trust research anymore? Jon Oliver did a great piece last week on science and just what constitutes research these days. It's truly disturbing. I think it's time to step away from all these foolish fringe diets and gimmicks and just eat for health and a sustained (hopefully long) life. We're only hurting ourselves in the long run with all these extreme dietary measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[il...] Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Donnie I agree! It's kind of just getting back to basics and eating what we all know is good for us. I'll always remember growing up - one year, eggs were bad. The next, they were great. So on and so forth for years! Ha! Nova - I'm so sorry you're in "agony" still. I am far from healed. I've avoided flare ups with that horrible "pit" in my stomach, fear and paranoia for a day and a half though, so I'm sticking with it. Happy healing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[no...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The word "Fruit" is not even mentioned in that article. Literally. I searched for it. It's obvious that highly processed corn sweetener is bad for you. The fibre in fruit is what balances the sugar, though. Fruits are whole foods, so there are countermeasures in place for the high amounts of sugar. I really wonder sometimes just how much these posts on diet are really helping anyone. Studies for this... studies to prove that... I'm sure there are studies that say I should only eat meat at every meal too. Can we even trust research anymore? Jon Oliver did a great piece last week on science and just what constitutes research these days. It's truly disturbing. I think it's time to step away from all these foolish fringe diets and gimmicks and just eat for health and a sustained (hopefully long) life. We're only hurting ourselves in the long run with all these extreme dietary measures. Its on page 2 of the article Donnie With a pic of fruit next to it Is Fructose Really Different from “Natural Sugar?” “But isn’t fructose a natural sugar?” http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/mag2013/images/oct2013_aysffp_05.jpg If that’s what you’re thinking, you’re right—it is. And that’s exactly what the food industry wants you to think as well. The corn sweetener industry wants to debate any connection between fructose and the epidemic of obesity and metabolic syndrome. They’ll tell you that fructose is a natural product, and that the animal studies showing fructose to be dangerous used “hyper doses” of fructose, at 40, 50, or even 60% of total calorie intake, a ridiculous amount.57 Yet research clearly links fructose to increased risk for conditions associated with metabolic syndrome, abnormal blood lipids, heart disease, and other serious health concerns. 3,15,36 Let’s clear up this confusion once and for all. What exactly is fructose? Fructose is a naturally occurring sugar found primarily in fruits and vegetables.58 Glucose is a naturally occurring sugar found in carbohydrates.58 Sucrose (table sugar) is made up of 50% fructose and 50% glucose.58 Please don’t avoid fruit and vegetables because they contain fructose. The slower absorption from whole fruit/vegetables should enable your liver to safely clear it. A limited study showed that people consuming very high fruit diets did not suffer adverse effects on body weight, blood pressure, and insulin and lipid levels after 12-24 weeks.59 Since the 1960s, the food industry has been loading up a growing proportion of the American food supply with a substance that’s vastly cheaper than sucrose: high fructose corn syrup.60,61 High fructose corn syrup can have up to 5% more fructose than table sugar (which we already consume in too high of quantities), it’s up to around 1.3 times sweeter than table sugar (increasing our need for sugar-sweetened foods), and it’s nearly impossible to avoid.58,62 http://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2013/10/Are-You-Suffering-from-Fructose-Poisoning/Page-02 Love Nova xxx :smitten: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[no...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Donnie I agree! It's kind of just getting back to basics and eating what we all know is good for us. I'll always remember growing up - one year, eggs were bad. The next, they were great. So on and so forth for years! Ha! Nova - I'm so sorry you're in "agony" still. I am far from healed. I've avoided flare ups with that horrible "pit" in my stomach, fear and paranoia for a day and a half though, so I'm sticking with it. Happy healing! Thank you kindly long name I wish the same healing for you also Love Nova xxx :smitten: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hey folks, im so sorry that i post a false information. Yes, I missunderstood it. I thought it was only the fructose in fruit, but in fact the fiber in there handle this. Sorry but im not an english speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[no...] Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hey folks, im so sorry that i post a false information. Yes, I missunderstood it. I thought it was only the fructose in fruit, but in fact the fiber in there handle this. Sorry but im not an english speaker. Hey! its no problem BttR At least you now know you can't get ''Death by orange'' So some good came out of it"Hakuna matata''( No worries ) Love Nova xxx :smitten: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[an...] Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I eat about 90-95% paleo too and it works for me! I do add yogurt (for the probiotics) and wild rice and sometimes oats. Other than that, I eat lean proteins, lots of veggies, I juice and I do eat fruit. I limit it to 1 piece a day. Yes- a banana is higher on the glycemic index than blueberries so it will change your blood sugar. The best way for ME (and no I am not going to cite research because I live this) to feel my best is to keep my blood sugar even all day. I do this by not eating foods high on the glycemic index and eating every 3-4 hours. Happy eating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[il...] Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 I eat about 90-95% paleo too and it works for me! I do add yogurt (for the probiotics) and wild rice and sometimes oats. Other than that, I eat lean proteins, lots of veggies, I juice and I do eat fruit. I limit it to 1 piece a day. Yes- a banana is higher on the glycemic index than blueberries so it will change your blood sugar. The best way for ME (and no I am not going to cite research because I live this) to feel my best is to keep my blood sugar even all day. I do this by not eating foods high on the glycemic index and eating every 3-4 hours. Happy eating! I wish I could 'like' that ☝🏼️ like on FB. Thanks for the reassurance from personal experience. (Lol I don't site either. Some of this stuff is just common sense health choices) 👍🏼💪🏼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Bl...] Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Personally I think limiting fruit to 1 piece per day is not common sense at all unless you are a diabetic. My uncle is diabetic and so I have tested my blood sugar after drinking a 5 banana smoothie and it was great. No problem for me at all. But do whatever works for you. I feel great eating lots of fruit. Better than I do eating less fruit. People should vary their diet and find what works for them and what they feel best eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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