last cuts are TOO SMALL from 1/4 mg Lorazepam!

[[Ke...]]

I'm at 1/4 mg Ativan( 1/2 of a half mg pill), and it appears the remaining cuts I want to make will be very difficult with the pill cutter.

 

Per advice of a few of you, I will take the 1/4 mg, place in water, but I have a few questions

1. Anybody against this method?  why?

2. Do you crush the pill to dust before placing in water?

3.  If I place a half pill (1/4 mg), in water.... and if I plan on taking 3/4 of that half a pill,

I imagine a simply drink 3/4 of the water in the cup....right?

4. Can I save the water for the next day dose?

5. Any other tips/advice are appreciated!

[[bu...]]

I'm at 1/4 mg Ativan( 1/2 of a half mg pill), and it appears the remaining cuts I want to make will be very difficult with the pill cutter.

 

Per advice of a few of you, I will take the 1/4 mg, place in water, but I have a few questions

1. Anybody against this method?  why?

2. Do you crush the pill to dust before placing in water?

3.  If I place a half pill (1/4 mg), in water.... and if I plan on taking 3/4 of that half a pill,

I imagine a simply drink 3/4 of the water in the cup....right?

4. Can I save the water for the next day dose?

5. Any other tips/advice are appreciated!

 

It is NOT water soluble!  But...it is soluble in a tiny amount of either alcohol (vodka), or propylene glycol.  (These are the same solvents used in pharma-grade Rx liquid lorazepam)  Once dissolved in either of these solvents, it can then be further diluted with water.  And this solution will be stable and non-perishable, and can be stored for several days, even a couple of weeks.

[Guest [ba...]]

1. I'm not against it, but some people find that moving from solid to liquid requires a small up-dose.  Water isn't the ideal liquid, but if you shake it hard and use the suspension quickly, it should work.  Dissolving it into a little alcohol or propylene glycol helps to get it more evenly distributed.  Personally, I'd take it in a small amount of 50% alcohol (or PG) - it's moderately soluble in alcohol concentrations of 50% or more.  However, some people dilute it with much more water. 

2. Crushing would be good.

3. Yes

4. Opinions vary.  Ativan is insoluble in water; it's also essentially insoluble in 90% water (10% alcohol).  So it will settle out upon standing.  You'll need to thoroughly agitate it back into a suspension.

5.  You could also crush and weigh powder (then simply take it like you would any pill).  Requires a scale, but it only costs ~$20.

[[Ke...]]

I'm at 1/4 mg Ativan( 1/2 of a half mg pill), and it appears the remaining cuts I want to make will be very difficult with the pill cutter.

 

Per advice of a few of you, I will take the 1/4 mg, place in water, but I have a few questions

1. Anybody against this method?  why?

2. Do you crush the pill to dust before placing in water?

3.  If I place a half pill (1/4 mg), in water.... and if I plan on taking 3/4 of that half a pill,

I imagine a simply drink 3/4 of the water in the cup....right?

4. Can I save the water for the next day dose?

5. Any other tips/advice are appreciated!

 

It is NOT water soluble!  But...it is soluble in a tiny amount of either alcohol (vodka), or propylene glycol.  (These are the same solvents used in pharma-grade Rx liquid lorazepam)  Once dissolved in either of these solvents, it can then be further diluted with water.  And this solution will be stable and non-perishable, and can be stored for several days, even a couple of weeks.

 

Hmm, so once you put it in vodka, than water, you divide it by the amount you want to take. in other words 1/4th of all the liquid = 1/4 does?  thanks for your response!

[[Ke...]]

1. I'm not against it, but some people find that moving from solid to liquid requires a small up-dose.  Water isn't the ideal liquid, but if you shake it hard and use the suspension quickly, it should work.  Dissolving it into a little alcohol or propylene glycol helps to get it more evenly distributed.  Personally, I'd take it in a small amount of 50% alcohol (or PG) - it's moderately soluble in alcohol concentrations of 50% or more.  However, some people dilute it with much more water. 

2. Crushing would be good.

3. Yes

4. Opinions vary.  Ativan is insoluble in water; it's also essentially insoluble in 90% water (10% alcohol).  So it will settle out upon standing.  You'll need to thoroughly agitate it back into a suspension.

5.  You could also crush and weigh powder (then simply take it like you would any pill).  Requires a scale, but it only costs ~$20.

 

 

crushing and weighing powder.  It's such a micro small amount ... what kid of a scale can measure that, and where can I get one for $20?  thanks so much for your reply

[Guest [ba...]]

You can pick up a milligram scale from Amazon (Gemini-20).  Use it on a solid surface, away from air drafts.  It should be accurate enough.

[[bu...]]

I'm at 1/4 mg Ativan( 1/2 of a half mg pill), and it appears the remaining cuts I want to make will be very difficult with the pill cutter.

 

Per advice of a few of you, I will take the 1/4 mg, place in water, but I have a few questions

1. Anybody against this method?  why?

2. Do you crush the pill to dust before placing in water?

3.  If I place a half pill (1/4 mg), in water.... and if I plan on taking 3/4 of that half a pill,

I imagine a simply drink 3/4 of the water in the cup....right?

4. Can I save the water for the next day dose?

5. Any other tips/advice are appreciated!

 

It is NOT water soluble!  But...it is soluble in a tiny amount of either alcohol (vodka), or propylene glycol.  (These are the same solvents used in pharma-grade Rx liquid lorazepam)  Once dissolved in either of these solvents, it can then be further diluted with water.  And this solution will be stable and non-perishable, and can be stored for several days, even a couple of weeks.

 

Hmm, so once you put it in vodka, than water, you divide it by the amount you want to take. in other words 1/4th of all the liquid = 1/4 does?  thanks for your response!

  Yes, that's correct. 

[[Ph...]]

If you can locate a compounding pharmacy near you and if your doctor is willing to send prescriptions to that pharmacy for each dose reduction, this could also be a solution for you.  This is the method I have been using for my Lorazepam taper and it has been working well.  No measuring, no weighing, no dissolving, no hassle.

 

[[Se...]]

Hi. I've read benzos grab onto fat molecules so placing the crushed 1/4 in full fat milk overnight would work. If you drink milk.

I'm dry cutting lorazepam right now from 2-3mg (1mg pills) a day to 1.5 mg evenly timed 3 x a day...I will use the milk method for my last few tapers probably.

So happy for you to be at 1/4!

Good luck! Peace.