Crossing back over to Satan's other little helper. (Xanax)

[[Be...]]

So after 4 months on Valium and all the issues it caused from SEVERE anger and sadness to mental insanity I'm crossing back over to Satan's other little helper Xanax. Currently doing .125 of xanax with 3mg of Valium for 10 days then I'll take out the 3mg of Valium and add in another .125 of xanax leaving me at .25 total where I will hold for 30 days. Then I will begin a SLOW Milk taper.

 

For me crossing over to Valium was the worst decision I have ever made. Had I not done that I would of been off benzos by now. While being on Valium I seriously lost my mind. I was not able to really make any cuts whatsoever, nor was I able to ever hold and level out. Its been pure hell ever since started the benzo taper, but the last four months with Valium has been like kicking it with Satan everyday. Just shear madness!!!

 

How do I know going back to xanax is the answer? I don't, but I'm sure as hell desperate enough to try before I lose everything in my life.

 

So for the first time in over 4 months I took xanax today again. (Didn't feel it at all, didn't do much for me) It's a total TRIP but hopefully a "trip" forward, in the right direction.

 

I'm really hoping this gives me even 5% relief.

May God be with me!

 

[[be...]]

So after 4 months on Valium and all the issues it caused from SEVERE anger and sadness to mental insanity I'm crossing back over to Satan's other little helper Xanax. Currently doing .125 of xanax with 3mg of Valium for 10 days then I'll take out the 3mg of Valium and add in another .125 of xanax leaving me at .25 total where I will hold for 30 days. Then I will begin a SLOW Milk taper.

 

For me crossing over to Valium was the worst decision I have ever made. Had I not done that I would of been off benzos by now. While being on Valium I seriously lost my mind. I was not able to really make any cuts whatsoever, nor was I able to ever hold and level out. Its been pure hell ever since started the benzo taper, but the last four months with Valium has been like kicking it with Satan everyday. Just shear madness!!!

 

How do I know going back to xanax is the answer? I don't, but I'm sure as hell desperate enough to try before I lose everything in my life.

 

So for the first time in over 4 months I took xanax today again. (Didn't feel it at all, didn't do much for me) It's a total TRIP but hopefully a "trip" forward, in the right direction.

 

I'm really hoping this gives me even 5% relief.

May God be with me!

 

If valium doesn't agree with you, then by all means switch back...fwiw, I think Ativan and kpin are worse than Xanax.

[[Be...]]

They're all horrible. All satan's little helpers.

[Guest [Ma...]]

I agree, klonopin, for me, ravaged my mind & body. When I reinstated, it was with Xanax.

 

[[dr...]]

K killed me but V was much smoother.  You tried to make things easier and it didn't work.  Just move forward and I wish you the easiest trip to zero,,,

[[Be...]]

I agree, klonopin, for me, ravaged my mind & body. When I reinstated, it was with Xanax.

How  long before you began to feel a little better after crossing back over to xanax? How Long were you on the V?

[[Be...]]

K killed me but V was much smoother.  You tried to make things easier and it didn't work.  Just move forward and I wish you the easiest trip to zero,,,

Thanks Drew, I wonder how long it will take me to feel a bit better on Xanax? Cause Right now = pure/painful hell.

[Guest [Ma...]]

I declined the option to take V.

After rapid cross to pheno (horrible experience), I reinstated onto Xanax, taking .125 mg until my body stabilized. It took about 3 weeks to feel functional, but symptomatic. I decided to reinstate onto Xanax due to my previous experience in my 20's with tapering directly off of Xanax. I was familiar with how Xanax felt in my body. I wanted some "certainty".  So, after reinstating and climbing back up to 2.65 mg, I held for  3 weeks and began my taper. I have been symptomatic the entire time but nothing compared to the back to back tapers from klonopin. Also, I'm finding the lower I get the better I feel.

Hope you stabilize soon.

 

[[Be...]]

I declined the option to take V.

After rapid cross to pheno (horrible experience), I reinstated onto Xanax, taking .125 mg until my body stabilized. It took about 3 weeks to feel functional, but symptomatic. I decided to reinstate onto Xanax due to my previous experience in my 20's with tapering directly off of Xanax. I was familiar with how Xanax felt in my body. I wanted some "certainty".  So, after reinstating and climbing back up to 2.65 mg, I held for  3 weeks and began my taper. I have been symptomatic the entire time but nothing compared to the back to back tapers from klonopin. Also, I'm finding the lower I get the better I feel.

Hope you stabilize soon.

So it could be 3 weeks before I notice any improvement? Ouch. No bueno.

[[th...]]

So after 4 months on Valium and all the issues it caused from SEVERE anger and sadness to mental insanity I'm crossing back over to Satan's other little helper Xanax. Currently doing .125 of xanax with 3mg of Valium for 10 days then I'll take out the 3mg of Valium and add in another .125 of xanax leaving me at .25 total where I will hold for 30 days. Then I will begin a SLOW Milk taper.

 

For me crossing over to Valium was the worst decision I have ever made. Had I not done that I would of been off benzos by now. While being on Valium I seriously lost my mind. I was not able to really make any cuts whatsoever, nor was I able to ever hold and level out. Its been pure hell ever since started the benzo taper, but the last four months with Valium has been like kicking it with Satan everyday. Just shear madness!!!

 

How do I know going back to xanax is the answer? I don't, but I'm sure as hell desperate enough to try before I lose everything in my life.

 

So for the first time in over 4 months I took xanax today again. (Didn't feel it at all, didn't do much for me) It's a total TRIP but hopefully a "trip" forward, in the right direction.

 

I'm really hoping this gives me even 5% relief.

May God be with me!

 

This is exactly why I didn't cross over. A person just has no idea how these meds will affect them. Xanax was a bitch to taper and I never have stabilized on it but I am getting close to being done now and survived...that's all that matters I guess. Hope you get some relief!!

 

G 

[[Be...]]

Thanks G.

I hope so too cause this rolling around on the ground stuff is getting old. Oh and the brain zaps!!!!!!

[[va...]]

So after 4 months on Valium and all the issues it caused from SEVERE anger and sadness to mental insanity I'm crossing back over to Satan's other little helper Xanax. Currently doing .125 of xanax with 3mg of Valium for 10 days then I'll take out the 3mg of Valium and add in another .125 of xanax leaving me at .25 total where I will hold for 30 days. Then I will begin a SLOW Milk taper.

 

For me crossing over to Valium was the worst decision I have ever made. Had I not done that I would of been off benzos by now. While being on Valium I seriously lost my mind. I was not able to really make any cuts whatsoever, nor was I able to ever hold and level out. Its been pure hell ever since started the benzo taper, but the last four months with Valium has been like kicking it with Satan everyday. Just shear madness!!!

 

How do I know going back to xanax is the answer? I don't, but I'm sure as hell desperate enough to try before I lose everything in my life.

 

So for the first time in over 4 months I took xanax today again. (Didn't feel it at all, didn't do much for me) It's a total TRIP but hopefully a "trip" forward, in the right direction.

 

I'm really hoping this gives me even 5% relief.

May God be with me!

 

This is exactly why I didn't cross over. A person just has no idea how these meds will affect them. Xanax was a bitch to taper and I never have stabilized on it but I am getting close to being done now and survived...that's all that matters I guess. Hope you get some relief!!

 

G 

 

My thoughts exactly Grinch.  That's also why I didn't cross over.  I did a lot of reading before deciding what to do, and I kept hearing all these horror stories that mostly came from crossing over, so I decided to taper directly from X.  So far so good.  I guess the devil you know is better than the one you don't know, in many cases.

 

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Benzohell, I hope going back to xanax gives you at least a little relief.  Good luck. 

 

Namaste.

 

~K 

[[Be...]]

Wish I would have. Not only am I as miserable as I've ever been in my entire life, I also would of been benzo free by now. Clearly Ashton doesn't know everything.

[[dr...]]

I would only recommend people cross over nay if they get in the weeds during their taper.  The K cutting became unmanageable for me.  I made it from 3mg down to .75 and got stuck.  The symptoms were brutal.  The V was my escape plan to zero.  If you can continue on the drug your tapering do it.  Why add another unknown variable to the mix.

[[Be...]]

I hope going back to xanax doesn't make me possible for kindling. Even tho I never stopped any benzos.

[[dr...]]

I wouldn't think so as you still had benzo in the brain.

[[th...]]

I hope going back to xanax doesn't make me possible for kindling. Even tho I never stopped any benzos.

 

I honestly think I am kindling...I stopped and started Xanax ct a lot before I knew what was happening or that I shouldn't. Maybe that's why my taper is brutal! I guess I ll never really know. And yes the doctors said that was fine to do!! Stop and start as needed! Ugh. Go on for 6 ms than ct. Start again a few weeks later cause insomnia was awful. Duh!! I was in wd!! Didn't know and docs had no idea either. So frustrating that a lot of this could have been avoided for many of us had our doctors been more informed and educated. Maybe one day they will be 

 

G

[[gr...]]

Good wishes BH. Hope the xanax gives some relief. I also did not wanna cross over to V from K. Just enough horror stories to keep me from doing it and like u said, it adds to the duration of the taper...even if you dont have problems.

 

Take it easy on yourself for awhile and get stable.

[[je...]]

My doctor reinstated me today on Klonopin. I use to take Xanax. He put me on .50 twice a day. Since today is the first day I really can't judge. I asked about Valium but he thought Klonopin was a better fit. After reading all this I wonder if Xanax would be a better fit. I had to reinstate as I need to get back to work. I plan on tapering once I am stable.

[[Be...]]

Benzohell, You hit the nail on the head. . . .satan's little helpers, not mother's little helper.  Mick Jagger got that one wrong. 

[[dr...]]

My doctor reinstated me today on Klonopin. I use to take Xanax. He put me on .50 twice a day. Since today is the first day I really can't judge. I asked about Valium but he thought Klonopin was a better fit. After reading all this I wonder if Xanax would be a better fit. I had to reinstate as I need to get back to work. I plan on tapering once I am stable.

 

 

Assuming I had no bad reaction to V I would opt to taper from that. k or any other benzo is a better fit to almost every US dr because they have negative perceptions of V from the 70's.  If only they had the same perceptions of the newer benzos.  k was the most destructive of all the benzos I took.  After I crossed to V I felt like I had a fighting chance to taper off the beast.  Even Ashton mentions some bad things that are more prevalent to K like Derealization. I hate that pill!

[[Be...]]

Honestly I'm just shooting in the dark here, hoping it works out. I actually already feel almost worse. Can't even explain it. I'm scared, I hope I don't create some massive setback. I don't know what to do, and OF COURSE THE DOCTORS DON'T HAVE A CLUE. They sure as hell know how to put you on the drug tho. They do it constantly all day, ruining multiple lives by not giving patients facts. Here I am a victim of ignorant pill throwing docs. No words can express how messed up I think the mental health doctors are. ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[[je...]]

Hi drew28,

 

Can you tell me more about your experience with Klonopin. How much were you on? Did you take it to reinstate? I have only had two doses so far so I can't really judge. I do have 1mg Xanax I can use instead. What are your thoughts? 

[[Be...]]

I feel like I've completely gone mad. The crossover already beginning to take effect. My head waves/electricity are going insane. My mind is going 16 trillion miles an hour. My skin feels irritated, like chills when I touch it. The left side of my head feels like so much pressure its gonna explode, honestly at this point I wouldn't mind that. If I ever get through this someday I'm gonna write a book called "Prisoner of Benzo War." I feel like I'm in my own concentration benzo camp being punished to death, it will do everything BUT kill us. This is all insane!!!!

[[th...]]

I feel like I've completely gone mad. The crossover already beginning to take effect. My head waves/electricity are going insane. My mind is going 16 trillion miles an hour. My skin feels irritated, like chills when I touch it. The left side of my head feels like so much pressure its gonna explode, honestly at this point I wouldn't mind that. If I ever get through this someday I'm gonna write a book called "Prisoner of Benzo War." I feel like I'm in my own concentration benzo camp being punished to death, it will do everything BUT kill us. This is all insane!!!!

 

BH,

 

I would imagine you will get worse before you get better. Even with a cross over there is a wd from the other benzo. And you have crossed over once before and now going back. I would suspect you are shocking your body tremendously. IMO even with a cross over and taking Xanax you will still feel the effects of dumping the V for a while. You ll just need to hold on for a while to really know how it will go. Sorry hon.  :'(

 

G